Hi......All
i am working in a company at a middle management level and always expected by the management to be on the top management level.
my problem is related to my salary. others are joining the company at a salary equal to me & are getting good hike in 3-4 month after completing their probation.
whereas i am senior then them & have much more powers them then but getting 70 - 80 % of their salary after being employed for 2 years.
please suggest what should i do because i have heard a rumour that they make my joke in view of salary.
can anyone of you suggest me a way out.
looking for a good suggestion from the seniors!!!!!
regards, :( :(
From India, Delhi
i am working in a company at a middle management level and always expected by the management to be on the top management level.
my problem is related to my salary. others are joining the company at a salary equal to me & are getting good hike in 3-4 month after completing their probation.
whereas i am senior then them & have much more powers them then but getting 70 - 80 % of their salary after being employed for 2 years.
please suggest what should i do because i have heard a rumour that they make my joke in view of salary.
can anyone of you suggest me a way out.
looking for a good suggestion from the seniors!!!!!
regards, :( :(
From India, Delhi
hi, First analyse ur performance you have contributed in the 2 yrs, if you believe that ur performance was upto the expectation, then u can talk to ur boss and clarify it. Thanks Pallavi
From India, Mumbai
3From India, Mumbai
Hello,
Is communication-articulation, vocabulary and a low self image a part of your problems?
I suppose you are NOT assertive!
People who do good work but are not able to convey the same to those who matter always suffer from such a problem as you describe!
It is quite unfortunate that those who supervise your work are NOT doing what they should be doing! Apparently they want things to be "shown" to them and are unwilling to "see" things they ought to, as part of their own job responsibility.
In such a situation, I find that you need to undergo serious training in assertiveness and also improve your communication skills. If you are NOT able to say what you need to say-at the right time and in the right manner-people it seems do not want to take the trouble to undestand you!
Assertiveness is not being aggressive or being at war with colleagues and superiors to drive home a point. In means being brief but fearless in stating facts and your convictions objectively.
It will take time for things to change but change they will, if you prepare yourself, equip yourself well and practice assertiveness.
If in about six months time, things do not start to change, its time for you to start looking out for a more healthy, mature, and supportive work environment.
But let me just add that the problem may not have roots only in the workplace. The roots could in your personality too, as introvert, shy, reserved OR people with low self esteem, generally run into such problems are you have run into!
Therefore this response cannot be a total answer to your situation. I am presenting some pointers to improvement efforts!
You are free to interact with more facts if you so desire!
Cheer up. Every day is new day and it brings along new opportunities to succeed and excel! Let us learn to encash such opportunities.
Regards
samvedan
September 15, 2007
From India, Pune
Is communication-articulation, vocabulary and a low self image a part of your problems?
I suppose you are NOT assertive!
People who do good work but are not able to convey the same to those who matter always suffer from such a problem as you describe!
It is quite unfortunate that those who supervise your work are NOT doing what they should be doing! Apparently they want things to be "shown" to them and are unwilling to "see" things they ought to, as part of their own job responsibility.
In such a situation, I find that you need to undergo serious training in assertiveness and also improve your communication skills. If you are NOT able to say what you need to say-at the right time and in the right manner-people it seems do not want to take the trouble to undestand you!
Assertiveness is not being aggressive or being at war with colleagues and superiors to drive home a point. In means being brief but fearless in stating facts and your convictions objectively.
It will take time for things to change but change they will, if you prepare yourself, equip yourself well and practice assertiveness.
If in about six months time, things do not start to change, its time for you to start looking out for a more healthy, mature, and supportive work environment.
But let me just add that the problem may not have roots only in the workplace. The roots could in your personality too, as introvert, shy, reserved OR people with low self esteem, generally run into such problems are you have run into!
Therefore this response cannot be a total answer to your situation. I am presenting some pointers to improvement efforts!
You are free to interact with more facts if you so desire!
Cheer up. Every day is new day and it brings along new opportunities to succeed and excel! Let us learn to encash such opportunities.
Regards
samvedan
September 15, 2007
From India, Pune
dear samdevn,
thanks for yout reply.
in the office i am being seen as a person who will support the truth & shall be uncomfortable with the thing which i do not think good / true.
i do not see whether my decisions / suggestions are going against me. i am honest with me & the company & no matter who it is, i always supports truth. My director's know it very well that i shall be only with the truth.
i do not undewrstand the meaning of assertiveness!
can you explain it to me.
thanks once again,
best regards, :)
From India, Delhi
thanks for yout reply.
in the office i am being seen as a person who will support the truth & shall be uncomfortable with the thing which i do not think good / true.
i do not see whether my decisions / suggestions are going against me. i am honest with me & the company & no matter who it is, i always supports truth. My director's know it very well that i shall be only with the truth.
i do not undewrstand the meaning of assertiveness!
can you explain it to me.
thanks once again,
best regards, :)
From India, Delhi
Hello,
So you are one who would like live a value based life. I support that. But you must understand that if you are being perceived as a "good but inconvenient" fellow, the responses that you are getting are at once understood.
An incorruptible officer in the police or any other government department stand out like a sore thumb! He gets ridiculed, no cooperation, is made a joke of (behind his back) and is generally avoided in the inner circle. You are, it seems facing the same situation.
No harm. With this additional information provided I find a cultural and value incompatibility between you and the organization. I will explain what assertiveness is, but in addition you will have to use two more tools and effectively. These will be competence and tact. I had not referred t these in the previous post.
A scientific definition of the term "assertiveness" can be provided but that is not necessary at this stage. Just understand that assertiveness is being insistent about your convictions.
Competence needs no explanation and tact means being diplomatic in achieving what you want to achieve without rustling any feathers or without stepping on any toes or without rubbing anyone (especially the superiors) on the worng side.
Simply do not insist on winning everytime. If you let others have their say-not on the basis of their authority but with your agreement in a discussion, you are going to slowly win their confidence! Use this strategy to consolidate the relationship and to win their acceptance and to become a team member and soon you will see the change in the people's reaction towards you.
I am NOT asking you give up your values. Value sanctifications cannot be done from the level at which you are placed. When you achieve a position of authority and decision making and the organizational culture becomes more supportive to value based worrking-that will be the time you wil start winning. But to achieve such a position takes some time. Till then you have to be patient, diplomatic and adding value (in the eyes of your colleagues and superiors).
Value orientation must beging from the top. All organizations ultimately take the profile of the man/men who head it. Therefore till such time you are NOT occupying a position where the rest will hear you, your value insistence will fall flat. But when you are able to call shots, eberybody will stand up and listen. That's the rule of the world.
This path I am recommending is called "strategic retreat". Wait for an opportunity and charge ahead to your goals. You have to be a part of the system to be able to change it.
Kindly think about what I have said and you will start seeing the rays of hope for a changed scenario.
Regards
samvedan
September 2007
From India, Pune
So you are one who would like live a value based life. I support that. But you must understand that if you are being perceived as a "good but inconvenient" fellow, the responses that you are getting are at once understood.
An incorruptible officer in the police or any other government department stand out like a sore thumb! He gets ridiculed, no cooperation, is made a joke of (behind his back) and is generally avoided in the inner circle. You are, it seems facing the same situation.
No harm. With this additional information provided I find a cultural and value incompatibility between you and the organization. I will explain what assertiveness is, but in addition you will have to use two more tools and effectively. These will be competence and tact. I had not referred t these in the previous post.
A scientific definition of the term "assertiveness" can be provided but that is not necessary at this stage. Just understand that assertiveness is being insistent about your convictions.
Competence needs no explanation and tact means being diplomatic in achieving what you want to achieve without rustling any feathers or without stepping on any toes or without rubbing anyone (especially the superiors) on the worng side.
Simply do not insist on winning everytime. If you let others have their say-not on the basis of their authority but with your agreement in a discussion, you are going to slowly win their confidence! Use this strategy to consolidate the relationship and to win their acceptance and to become a team member and soon you will see the change in the people's reaction towards you.
I am NOT asking you give up your values. Value sanctifications cannot be done from the level at which you are placed. When you achieve a position of authority and decision making and the organizational culture becomes more supportive to value based worrking-that will be the time you wil start winning. But to achieve such a position takes some time. Till then you have to be patient, diplomatic and adding value (in the eyes of your colleagues and superiors).
Value orientation must beging from the top. All organizations ultimately take the profile of the man/men who head it. Therefore till such time you are NOT occupying a position where the rest will hear you, your value insistence will fall flat. But when you are able to call shots, eberybody will stand up and listen. That's the rule of the world.
This path I am recommending is called "strategic retreat". Wait for an opportunity and charge ahead to your goals. You have to be a part of the system to be able to change it.
Kindly think about what I have said and you will start seeing the rays of hope for a changed scenario.
Regards
samvedan
September 2007
From India, Pune
dear sudhir u must communicae ur problem to your immediate boss or Hr Dept. other wise i think ur managment creat a such a enviroment to you that u left ur job by ur own regards ss ali
From Pakistan, Karachi
From Pakistan, Karachi
Thanks Mr. Samvedan
Thank you very much to provide me such a supportive matter. i shall try hard to follow this matter.
i shall let you know when the scenerio changes for me.
thanks very much once again.
Best regards, :)
From India, Delhi
Thank you very much to provide me such a supportive matter. i shall try hard to follow this matter.
i shall let you know when the scenerio changes for me.
thanks very much once again.
Best regards, :)
From India, Delhi
Hi,
I do completely agree with my frend that sometime you have to becum a part of system to change it, though it doesn't mean to give up your own values but you have to make some adjustments with the system, this is corporate world, difficult to understand but you have to.
If you think your approach is a reason for not getting good salary though you work hard so much then as suggested try to bring some changes and then see mgt.reaction towards it and best is then to discuss with your boss. See what he has to say for not giving you what you think you deserve. Listen to him then take decision.
take care
Shilpi
From India, New Delhi
I do completely agree with my frend that sometime you have to becum a part of system to change it, though it doesn't mean to give up your own values but you have to make some adjustments with the system, this is corporate world, difficult to understand but you have to.
If you think your approach is a reason for not getting good salary though you work hard so much then as suggested try to bring some changes and then see mgt.reaction towards it and best is then to discuss with your boss. See what he has to say for not giving you what you think you deserve. Listen to him then take decision.
take care
Shilpi
From India, New Delhi
thanks shilpi for your comments
Mr. Ali also suggested me talk to my boss but the problem is that i have the M D over me.
i represent the finance department in the company & sits in the Management meeting.
i have full powers but low salary.
regards,
From India, Delhi
Mr. Ali also suggested me talk to my boss but the problem is that i have the M D over me.
i represent the finance department in the company & sits in the Management meeting.
i have full powers but low salary.
regards,
From India, Delhi
Dear Sudhir,
I read your query and others' useful suggestions.
My question to you is - Have you demanded a raise from your company?
Many a times all it takes is "Ask". And while asking please list down your strengths, your accomplishments, your team behaviour with quantifiable results.
If like you say your organisation expects you to be in top management, if your managers know your strengths and your valuable contribution - you will get what you genuinely deserve.
Try it!
Prasad.
I read your query and others' useful suggestions.
My question to you is - Have you demanded a raise from your company?
Many a times all it takes is "Ask". And while asking please list down your strengths, your accomplishments, your team behaviour with quantifiable results.
If like you say your organisation expects you to be in top management, if your managers know your strengths and your valuable contribution - you will get what you genuinely deserve.
Try it!
Prasad.
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