Dear all
I am very much interested in learning Hay method of Job analysis. After a long search I didn't find anything helpful from the net. Can anybody guide me or if somebody has the experience of doing it.
Please help
regards
From Pakistan, Karachi
1I am very much interested in learning Hay method of Job analysis. After a long search I didn't find anything helpful from the net. Can anybody guide me or if somebody has the experience of doing it.
Please help
regards
From Pakistan, Karachi
Dear Nizar,
Greetings!
Overview of the Hay Method
The Hay Guide Chart-Profile Method of Position Evaluation is the most widely used method of work measurement and role valuation in the world. It is used by more than 5,000 private and public sector organizations for the evaluation of all types and levels of jobs. Two recent studies in specific areas of the world validate the above information. The Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK found that 78% of organizations in the UK that use proprietary job evaluation systems use Hay. A Towers Perrin study revealed that 75% of all large private sector organizations in Europe use Hay evaluation for some of their jobs. Similar data could be developed for North America.
The system continues to evolve (as it always has), with client input, in response to changes in the environment such as pay equity legislation, the increasing use of technology in the workplace, and evolving ways of organizing work. It is used to support organization analysis and role design and to underpin grading and banding and can be customized to specific client and work culture requirements. The basic, underlying concepts have stood the test of time quite simply because they are so universal. They provide a framework to sort positions in an equitable manner.
The focus of the job evaluation process using the Hay Method is on the nature and the requirements of the job itself, not on the skills, educational background, personal characteristics, or the current salary of the person holding the job.
The Hay Method is based on the idea that jobs can be assessed in terms of the knowledge required to do the job, the thinking needed to solve the problems commonly faced the responsibilities assigned, and the working conditions associated with the job.
The Hay Method is comprised of four "Guide Charts" which are used to define each factor and to provide quantitative measures, which form the basis for evaluation. The four factors used by Hay are as follows:
Know-How
This Guide Chart measures the total of every kind of knowledge and skill, however acquired, needed for acceptable job performance. It consists of three dimensions:
practical procedures and knowledge, specialized techniques, and learned skills;
the real or conceptual planning, co-ordinating, directing, and controlling of activities and resources associated with an organizational unit or function; and,
Active, practicing, person-to-person skills in the area of human relationships.
Problem Solving
This Guide Chart measures the thinking required in the job by considering two dimensions:
the environment in which the thinking takes place; and,
the challenge presented by the thinking to be done.
Accountability
This Guide Chart measures the relative degree to which the job, performed competently, can affect the end results of the organization or of a unit within the organization. It reflects the level of decision-making and influence of the job through consideration, in the following order of importance, of:
the nature of the controls that limit or extend the decision-making or influence of the job;
the immediacy of the influence of the job on a unit or function of the organization; and,
the magnitude of the unit or function most clearly affected by the job.
Working Conditions
This Guide Chart measures the conditions under which the job is performed by considering:
Physical Effort, which measures the degree of physical fatigue that, results from the combination of intensity, duration, and frequency of any kind of physical activity required in the job.
Physical Environment, which measures the physical discomfort or the risk of accident or ill health which results from the combination of intensity, duration, and frequency of exposure, in the job, to unavoidable physical and environmental factors.
Sensory Attention, which measures the intensity, duration, and frequency of the demand, in the job, for concentration using one or more of the five senses.
Mental Stress, which measures the degree of such things as tension or anxiety which result from the combination of intensity, duration, and frequency of exposure to factors, inherent in the work process or environment, which would typically cause stress to someone reasonably suited to the job.
By focussing on the important aspects of the content of each job, the end results which each is expected to achieve, and the conditions under which the work is performed, the Hay Method provides a vehicle for systematically assessing the relationships among the various positions and determining their relative value.
Rgds,
John N
From India, Madras
Greetings!
Overview of the Hay Method
The Hay Guide Chart-Profile Method of Position Evaluation is the most widely used method of work measurement and role valuation in the world. It is used by more than 5,000 private and public sector organizations for the evaluation of all types and levels of jobs. Two recent studies in specific areas of the world validate the above information. The Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK found that 78% of organizations in the UK that use proprietary job evaluation systems use Hay. A Towers Perrin study revealed that 75% of all large private sector organizations in Europe use Hay evaluation for some of their jobs. Similar data could be developed for North America.
The system continues to evolve (as it always has), with client input, in response to changes in the environment such as pay equity legislation, the increasing use of technology in the workplace, and evolving ways of organizing work. It is used to support organization analysis and role design and to underpin grading and banding and can be customized to specific client and work culture requirements. The basic, underlying concepts have stood the test of time quite simply because they are so universal. They provide a framework to sort positions in an equitable manner.
The focus of the job evaluation process using the Hay Method is on the nature and the requirements of the job itself, not on the skills, educational background, personal characteristics, or the current salary of the person holding the job.
The Hay Method is based on the idea that jobs can be assessed in terms of the knowledge required to do the job, the thinking needed to solve the problems commonly faced the responsibilities assigned, and the working conditions associated with the job.
The Hay Method is comprised of four "Guide Charts" which are used to define each factor and to provide quantitative measures, which form the basis for evaluation. The four factors used by Hay are as follows:
Know-How
This Guide Chart measures the total of every kind of knowledge and skill, however acquired, needed for acceptable job performance. It consists of three dimensions:
practical procedures and knowledge, specialized techniques, and learned skills;
the real or conceptual planning, co-ordinating, directing, and controlling of activities and resources associated with an organizational unit or function; and,
Active, practicing, person-to-person skills in the area of human relationships.
Problem Solving
This Guide Chart measures the thinking required in the job by considering two dimensions:
the environment in which the thinking takes place; and,
the challenge presented by the thinking to be done.
Accountability
This Guide Chart measures the relative degree to which the job, performed competently, can affect the end results of the organization or of a unit within the organization. It reflects the level of decision-making and influence of the job through consideration, in the following order of importance, of:
the nature of the controls that limit or extend the decision-making or influence of the job;
the immediacy of the influence of the job on a unit or function of the organization; and,
the magnitude of the unit or function most clearly affected by the job.
Working Conditions
This Guide Chart measures the conditions under which the job is performed by considering:
Physical Effort, which measures the degree of physical fatigue that, results from the combination of intensity, duration, and frequency of any kind of physical activity required in the job.
Physical Environment, which measures the physical discomfort or the risk of accident or ill health which results from the combination of intensity, duration, and frequency of exposure, in the job, to unavoidable physical and environmental factors.
Sensory Attention, which measures the intensity, duration, and frequency of the demand, in the job, for concentration using one or more of the five senses.
Mental Stress, which measures the degree of such things as tension or anxiety which result from the combination of intensity, duration, and frequency of exposure to factors, inherent in the work process or environment, which would typically cause stress to someone reasonably suited to the job.
By focussing on the important aspects of the content of each job, the end results which each is expected to achieve, and the conditions under which the work is performed, the Hay Method provides a vehicle for systematically assessing the relationships among the various positions and determining their relative value.
Rgds,
John N
From India, Madras
Thanks budy, It was really helpful in understanding the basics. Is there anything like practical guide for this process. Something like an ebook. Regards
From Pakistan, Karachi
From Pakistan, Karachi
I have been using the Edward N. Hay evaluation method since 1973 and found that it is the most plausible system to evaluate jobs and measure performance. The most difficult part for me is updating the Accountability Magnitude Index to correct the Guide Chart measurement. Our (US) Department of Commerce is a bit slow in adjusting the inflationary effect. As a result I spend considerable time surveying market data (average salary rates) for benchmark jobs.
As for the hourly skilled and unskilled positions, reliance of Manufacturers Association's hourly rate data and position content has been extremely helpful.
As for the hourly skilled and unskilled positions, reliance of Manufacturers Association's hourly rate data and position content has been extremely helpful.
Oh Man, was looking for something like this, does anyone have a sample of this so that i can put this in practise, will be nice if someone can pass this on to me or attach it here so that everyone has a copy.
regards
Alex
regards
Alex
Alex ...
I have the Hay material along with charts and graphs, but they are in a hard copy form ... I have considered taking the time to scan the material and file the documents in my hard drive, but haven't taken the time to do so ... others have asked for copies, the best I could do was copy the material and mail it to them ... as soon as I duplicate the information I'll email to you ... to give you an idea the scope of copying, it is about an inch in thickness ... eskimo aka RC Thornton
I have the Hay material along with charts and graphs, but they are in a hard copy form ... I have considered taking the time to scan the material and file the documents in my hard drive, but haven't taken the time to do so ... others have asked for copies, the best I could do was copy the material and mail it to them ... as soon as I duplicate the information I'll email to you ... to give you an idea the scope of copying, it is about an inch in thickness ... eskimo aka RC Thornton
Alex ... as an after thought, you may be better off contacting Edward N. Hays corporate office, located at, Hay Group, The Wanamaker Bldg, 100 Penn Square East, Philadelphia, PA 19107 USA ...
http://www.haygroup.com/ww/Media/Pre...asp?Page1D=905 or use Google to research locations ...
they have offices worldwide ....
http://www.haygroup.com/ww/About/Locations.asp
They may require you to attend one of their programs :Introduction to Evaluation and Guide Chart program ... they also have a great program called "Continuity of Development Assessment" ...
getting a guide chart is easy, but you would need their book describing the application
When I was discharged from the Army Security Agency in 1957, GM offered me a job in their HR (formerly called Personnel) Dept ... I was sent to GM's training school in Michigan to begin my career in Compensation ... later, I attended Hay Compensation and Continuity programs ... if you haven't done so, you may want to consider specializing in Compensation which could lead you into certitifcations ... Compensation Specialists are often in demand ... whether the prospective client or company is medium size or large ... Richard
http://www.haygroup.com/ww/Media/Pre...asp?Page1D=905 or use Google to research locations ...
they have offices worldwide ....
http://www.haygroup.com/ww/About/Locations.asp
They may require you to attend one of their programs :Introduction to Evaluation and Guide Chart program ... they also have a great program called "Continuity of Development Assessment" ...
getting a guide chart is easy, but you would need their book describing the application
When I was discharged from the Army Security Agency in 1957, GM offered me a job in their HR (formerly called Personnel) Dept ... I was sent to GM's training school in Michigan to begin my career in Compensation ... later, I attended Hay Compensation and Continuity programs ... if you haven't done so, you may want to consider specializing in Compensation which could lead you into certitifcations ... Compensation Specialists are often in demand ... whether the prospective client or company is medium size or large ... Richard
This reply is to update a typo posted by eskimo.
The correct URL is: http://www.haygroup.com/ww/Media/Pre...asp?PageID=905
Best Regards,
The correct URL is: http://www.haygroup.com/ww/Media/Pre...asp?PageID=905
Best Regards,
Hello fellow thread members - my name is Ryan Kavanagh and I happen to be a consultant for the Hay Group. In fact, I work in the Wanamaker Building in Center City Philadelphia. I am Organization and Reward Consultant working with all kinds of organizations on job evaluation, compensation design and implementation, org. design, succession planning, governance, executive compensation, etc.
One of my colleagues in IT noticed this chat and forwarded your comments on to me. Please feel free to email me at
if you would like to discuss our methodology any further.
Warm regards,
Ryan K
One of my colleagues in IT noticed this chat and forwarded your comments on to me. Please feel free to email me at
Warm regards,
Ryan K
Hi,
i would like to read more about Hay methodology, or Mercer Models.
Does anyone have e-books or presentations that can be uploaded (or sent to
)
Or there is any book you recomend at www.amazon.com
i would like to read more about Hay methodology, or Mercer Models.
Does anyone have e-books or presentations that can be uploaded (or sent to
Or there is any book you recomend at www.amazon.com
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