Respected sir,
Myself Avtar Singh based at Jaipur,
I am/was employee of a Pharma company. Recently (april 1, 2014) my Sr.zsm told me “that company not require your services so submit your resign. Your March salary and expense of two month (feb and march) is on hold. It will be reimbursed on full and final settlement.”
Then I told to my Sr.zsm that if company not require my services then I am ready for resign but please provide me March salary. As you have two month expense on hold, reimburse it on my full and final settlement. But he is not agree.
After that I already sent a mail to my sales manager, H.R., and M.D. also but still I not received any reply.
So,in this condition what I can take next action?
Still I not submit my resign.
but now I am jobless and salary is on hold. please suggest me right action.
From India, Delhi
Acknowledge(0)
Amend(0)
Myself Avtar Singh based at Jaipur,
I am/was employee of a Pharma company. Recently (april 1, 2014) my Sr.zsm told me “that company not require your services so submit your resign. Your March salary and expense of two month (feb and march) is on hold. It will be reimbursed on full and final settlement.”
Then I told to my Sr.zsm that if company not require my services then I am ready for resign but please provide me March salary. As you have two month expense on hold, reimburse it on my full and final settlement. But he is not agree.
After that I already sent a mail to my sales manager, H.R., and M.D. also but still I not received any reply.
So,in this condition what I can take next action?
Still I not submit my resign.
but now I am jobless and salary is on hold. please suggest me right action.
From India, Delhi
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
Dear Avtar,
Are you still reporting to the office? If not, let's get started reporting, as neither have you submitted your resignation nor have they terminated you from services. So, not reporting to the office could be a plus point for them to show it as absconding and will try to get out of it by raising their hands.
Don't give them a chance to label you as absconding. In that case, you may need to bear some notice period deduction from your dues. For your safety, send an email to them detailing all the communications that have occurred, mentioning the concerned person's name, and copy the seniors and management. This defensive move will help you avoid getting into any trouble. Once you have documented everything in an email, they will have to respond to you, either positively or negatively. This will be strong evidence for you to use in any future disputes with them.
Once you have completed this, let us know the exact situation so that our team members can guide or advise you accordingly.
From India, Mumbai
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
218Are you still reporting to the office? If not, let's get started reporting, as neither have you submitted your resignation nor have they terminated you from services. So, not reporting to the office could be a plus point for them to show it as absconding and will try to get out of it by raising their hands.
Don't give them a chance to label you as absconding. In that case, you may need to bear some notice period deduction from your dues. For your safety, send an email to them detailing all the communications that have occurred, mentioning the concerned person's name, and copy the seniors and management. This defensive move will help you avoid getting into any trouble. Once you have documented everything in an email, they will have to respond to you, either positively or negatively. This will be strong evidence for you to use in any future disputes with them.
Once you have completed this, let us know the exact situation so that our team members can guide or advise you accordingly.
From India, Mumbai
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
Respected sir,
As the company has already blocked the reporting side, I am not able to continue reporting. I have already informed the senior managers (Sales Manager, HR, and MD as well) through email about the verbal discussion with my immediate manager. However, I have not received any correspondence from the senior managers or the company yet.
I have also sent an email to the senior managers regarding my job status and the release of the March salary, but I have still not received any reply.
From India, Delhi
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
As the company has already blocked the reporting side, I am not able to continue reporting. I have already informed the senior managers (Sales Manager, HR, and MD as well) through email about the verbal discussion with my immediate manager. However, I have not received any correspondence from the senior managers or the company yet.
I have also sent an email to the senior managers regarding my job status and the release of the March salary, but I have still not received any reply.
From India, Delhi
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
Dear Avatar, keep following up with them.. & still if they are not replying then, send the court notice. Regards, Tushar Swar
From India, Mumbai
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
From India, Mumbai
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
Hello Tushar Swar,
I don't think it's fair on our members' part to suggest Avtar Singh to go legal. He doesn't have his salary, and to top it off, adding legal expenses would burden, if not break, him.
@ Avtar --
I would suggest you meet your bosses, or at least call them from another number they wouldn't identify, avoid, and submit your resignation. You can then push for an early clearing of the F&F settlement. I only hope there is no adverse report about you -- that was the reason for this situation. Meanwhile, please look for another job ASAP.
All the Best.
Regards, TS
From India, Hyderabad
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
I don't think it's fair on our members' part to suggest Avtar Singh to go legal. He doesn't have his salary, and to top it off, adding legal expenses would burden, if not break, him.
@ Avtar --
I would suggest you meet your bosses, or at least call them from another number they wouldn't identify, avoid, and submit your resignation. You can then push for an early clearing of the F&F settlement. I only hope there is no adverse report about you -- that was the reason for this situation. Meanwhile, please look for another job ASAP.
All the Best.
Regards, TS
From India, Hyderabad
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
Respected sir,
Today, our general manager was on a visit to Jaipur. I met with him in his hotel room, and he assured me of a fast, full, and final settlement after my resignation.
Sir, in this situation, what is your opinion? Can I trust them because they have not given me my March salary and are asking for my resignation?
Thank you.
From India, Delhi
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
Today, our general manager was on a visit to Jaipur. I met with him in his hotel room, and he assured me of a fast, full, and final settlement after my resignation.
Sir, in this situation, what is your opinion? Can I trust them because they have not given me my March salary and are asking for my resignation?
Thank you.
From India, Delhi
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
Hello Avtar,
Let's look at it realistically - do you have a choice other than taking your GM's words at face value? Tell him that you are okay to resign only because he said so. If not officially, at least morally and psychologically, he will know he is responsible for getting your F&F settlement. I suggest waiting for other members too until tomorrow to give any other suggestions.
All the best.
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
Let's look at it realistically - do you have a choice other than taking your GM's words at face value? Tell him that you are okay to resign only because he said so. If not officially, at least morally and psychologically, he will know he is responsible for getting your F&F settlement. I suggest waiting for other members too until tomorrow to give any other suggestions.
All the best.
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
Sir,i also want to know what notice period is required for resign.
From India, Delhi
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
From India, Delhi
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
Dear Tajsateesh,
As I believe, generally when a company asks anyone to leave irrespective of any reason, it is indirectly a termination. However, to avoid any legal controversy in the future, they choose a way to take resignation from the employee and show it as a normal resignation case.
In such cases, as I believe, we HR people follow the same practice in our corporate world. We settle such cases' dues first on priority on ethical and legal grounds compared to other employees who have left normally.
Therefore, in Avatar Singh's case, it is becoming apparent that the company has shown unethical behavior. Rather than settling his dues as soon as possible, they are providing false commitments and withholding his salary. I don't think any of our HR professionals follow such practices in any indirect or direct termination cases.
Thank you.
From India, Mumbai
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
As I believe, generally when a company asks anyone to leave irrespective of any reason, it is indirectly a termination. However, to avoid any legal controversy in the future, they choose a way to take resignation from the employee and show it as a normal resignation case.
In such cases, as I believe, we HR people follow the same practice in our corporate world. We settle such cases' dues first on priority on ethical and legal grounds compared to other employees who have left normally.
Therefore, in Avatar Singh's case, it is becoming apparent that the company has shown unethical behavior. Rather than settling his dues as soon as possible, they are providing false commitments and withholding his salary. I don't think any of our HR professionals follow such practices in any indirect or direct termination cases.
Thank you.
From India, Mumbai
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
Hello Tushar Swar,
I am TOTALLY with you on your logic. However, most such cases are NOT 'black' & 'white' ones—they fall into the 'grey' zone, where some amount of pragmatism/reality also needs to be exercised. This case, I think, falls into this category—where Avtar's situation needs to be kept in mind. That was the reason for my suggestion.
Quite a few times, we end up bending our knees even when we know that we are right—logically, legally, morally & ethically. After all, that's life. When one is on an empty stomach, ethics don't feed him/her. But at the same time, I wouldn't say that to 'stand-up' & face the brunt come-what-may is not possible. It's just that it's tough... in fact, very tough & not many people can stand up to it. And I am saying this from personal experience.
At the EoD, Avtar needs to learn his lessons from this experience & avoid getting into them again in the future.
Regards, TS
From India, Hyderabad
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)
I am TOTALLY with you on your logic. However, most such cases are NOT 'black' & 'white' ones—they fall into the 'grey' zone, where some amount of pragmatism/reality also needs to be exercised. This case, I think, falls into this category—where Avtar's situation needs to be kept in mind. That was the reason for my suggestion.
Quite a few times, we end up bending our knees even when we know that we are right—logically, legally, morally & ethically. After all, that's life. When one is on an empty stomach, ethics don't feed him/her. But at the same time, I wouldn't say that to 'stand-up' & face the brunt come-what-may is not possible. It's just that it's tough... in fact, very tough & not many people can stand up to it. And I am saying this from personal experience.
At the EoD, Avtar needs to learn his lessons from this experience & avoid getting into them again in the future.
Regards, TS
From India, Hyderabad
Acknowledge(0)Amend(0)Engage with peers to discuss and resolve work and business challenges collaboratively - share and document your knowledge. Our AI-powered platform, features real-time fact-checking, peer reviews, and an extensive historical knowledge base. - Join & Be Part Of Our Community.
Salary-Note.doc
SALARY SHEET CALCULATION.xls