Deduction of salary must be punishable, we need to file complaint against them in any case.
From Portugal, Lisbon
1From Portugal, Lisbon
Dear Madhu.T.K Sir, It was very wrong on my part to write some thing after the Most Appreciated Member | Super Moderator said some thing. My apologies.
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Dear P RADHAKRISHNAN NAIR,
It will not be proper to do much interaction by member like me who is not even completed a week on this platform.
But to bring clarity in the subject in which I interacted earlier, I have decided to say something which I know.
There are as many as 29 WPs against the MHA order dated 29.03.2020 quashing the paragraph therein which states as under:
"All the employers, be it in the industry or in the shops and commercial establishment, shall make payment of wages of their workers, at their workplaces, on the due date, without any deduction, for the period their establishment are under closure during the lockdown."
Initially there were 2 WPs before the Honorable SC on 27.04.2020 and 5 WPs on 01.05.2020. As on date there are as many as 29 WPs before the Honorable SC.
All the WPs are listed and tagged together for hearing by the Honorable SC which came on board for hearing after 01.05.2020 on 15.05.2020 and 26.05.2020.
Now all the WPs are now listed in the cause list dated 04.06.2020.
From India, Mumbai
It will not be proper to do much interaction by member like me who is not even completed a week on this platform.
But to bring clarity in the subject in which I interacted earlier, I have decided to say something which I know.
There are as many as 29 WPs against the MHA order dated 29.03.2020 quashing the paragraph therein which states as under:
"All the employers, be it in the industry or in the shops and commercial establishment, shall make payment of wages of their workers, at their workplaces, on the due date, without any deduction, for the period their establishment are under closure during the lockdown."
Initially there were 2 WPs before the Honorable SC on 27.04.2020 and 5 WPs on 01.05.2020. As on date there are as many as 29 WPs before the Honorable SC.
All the WPs are listed and tagged together for hearing by the Honorable SC which came on board for hearing after 01.05.2020 on 15.05.2020 and 26.05.2020.
Now all the WPs are now listed in the cause list dated 04.06.2020.
From India, Mumbai
Dear friend Akhil Bhartiya,
There are 2 points raised in your querry.
1) MHA Order : It seems you have not perused MHA order promulgated in the month of May 20
wherein it clearly stated that the condition (as quoted by you) stipulated in its earlier order (issued in March 20) stands cancelled w.e.f. 18th May 20.
2) WPs:- Though the statistics given by you may be correct, petition filed by Nagreeka Exports, Mumbai - will not be heard on 4/6 (as per the date given by you) and it will be listed for hearing only in the first week of July 20 (This is the latest update I have got).
From India, Aizawl
There are 2 points raised in your querry.
1) MHA Order : It seems you have not perused MHA order promulgated in the month of May 20
wherein it clearly stated that the condition (as quoted by you) stipulated in its earlier order (issued in March 20) stands cancelled w.e.f. 18th May 20.
2) WPs:- Though the statistics given by you may be correct, petition filed by Nagreeka Exports, Mumbai - will not be heard on 4/6 (as per the date given by you) and it will be listed for hearing only in the first week of July 20 (This is the latest update I have got).
From India, Aizawl
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From India, New Delhi
Dear P RADHAKRISHNAN NAIR,
Thanks for interacting.
As regards to MHA order please refer to my post at #33 in which I have mentioned of earlier orders by MHA have been ceased from 18/05/2020.
As regards to WPs my understanding is, since all the WPs are listed and tagged together for hearing by the Honorable SC, the hearing in Nagreeka Exports will also come 04.06.2020.
The Union of India is yet to file counter affidavit on its behalf.
You may notice that there are no interim orders in every WP but still all the matters are heard together.
You may also notice that the wordings in various orders are different. No coercive action is written only in two orders but we have taken it in every WP.
I strongly feel that though the names of Nagreeka Exports and some other petitioners are not appearing in the cause list for 04.06.2020, they all will be taken on board for hearing on 04.06.2020. Let us wait till tomorrow i.e. 04.06.2020.
From India, Mumbai
Thanks for interacting.
As regards to MHA order please refer to my post at #33 in which I have mentioned of earlier orders by MHA have been ceased from 18/05/2020.
As regards to WPs my understanding is, since all the WPs are listed and tagged together for hearing by the Honorable SC, the hearing in Nagreeka Exports will also come 04.06.2020.
The Union of India is yet to file counter affidavit on its behalf.
You may notice that there are no interim orders in every WP but still all the matters are heard together.
You may also notice that the wordings in various orders are different. No coercive action is written only in two orders but we have taken it in every WP.
I strongly feel that though the names of Nagreeka Exports and some other petitioners are not appearing in the cause list for 04.06.2020, they all will be taken on board for hearing on 04.06.2020. Let us wait till tomorrow i.e. 04.06.2020.
From India, Mumbai
Akhil,
Sharing one's knowledge by posting replies to one who has several years of experience or has lot of buddies is not wrong thing. You can do it. We welcome it. Regarding the MHA order, I had expressed my feeling much earlier. During the initial lockdown period when I was invited to present a session on liability of employers to pay salaries to the employees during the lockdown priod, I had expressed the same concern( i have codified the discussion and a write up is avialble in the blog. Please follow the link
Madhu T K: Liability of employers to pay salary during COVID 19 lockdown period
The Supreme Court has not considered the objective of the MHA order. Now, when the interim verdict came directing the departments not to take action against the employers who did not pay wages, those who were willing to pay abstained from paying it. The result is that i you need to have another complete lock down, nobody will follow it.
From India, Kannur
Sharing one's knowledge by posting replies to one who has several years of experience or has lot of buddies is not wrong thing. You can do it. We welcome it. Regarding the MHA order, I had expressed my feeling much earlier. During the initial lockdown period when I was invited to present a session on liability of employers to pay salaries to the employees during the lockdown priod, I had expressed the same concern( i have codified the discussion and a write up is avialble in the blog. Please follow the link
Madhu T K: Liability of employers to pay salary during COVID 19 lockdown period
The Supreme Court has not considered the objective of the MHA order. Now, when the interim verdict came directing the departments not to take action against the employers who did not pay wages, those who were willing to pay abstained from paying it. The result is that i you need to have another complete lock down, nobody will follow it.
From India, Kannur
Respected Seniors,
When the not-for-profit sector organisations whose income is primarily through donations and a negligible part only through their service, will it be possible for reduction in staff salary say 10% of gross for a few months.What are the legal implications.
From India, Chennai
When the not-for-profit sector organisations whose income is primarily through donations and a negligible part only through their service, will it be possible for reduction in staff salary say 10% of gross for a few months.What are the legal implications.
From India, Chennai
Dear Friends,
Today i.e. Thursday 04.06.2020 the Supreme Court passed an interim order that no coercive action should be taken against employers for failure to comply with the March 29 order of the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) for full payment of wages.
The Court reserved orders for June 12 on the petitions challenging the MHA notification and restrained coercive action till then.
I am giving below the text copy paste which I received from some one, for your quick reference:
"No coercive action will be taken against any employers pursuant to March 29 MHA order. Therefore, interim order to continue till June 12. All parties given liberty to file written submissions within three days", ordered a bench comprising Justices Ashok Bhushan, S K Kaul and M R Shah.
MHA notification to prevent human suffering, AG tells
The direction issued by the Ministry of Home Affairs was intended to prevent human suffering amid the national lockdown, said Attorney General, KK Venugopal.
"The notification is for preventing human suffering", said the AG in response to a batch of petitions challenging the order issued on March 29 invoking the powers under Disaster Management Act.
"People were migrating in crores, they wanted the industries to continue. The notification was to keep the workers put, they would only stay put if they are paid", the AG explained.
The AG also submitted that the National Executive Committee under the Disaster Management Act can issue the notification, as the Act gives it wide powers "lay down guidelines of any kind" to deal with disasters.
Bench expresses reservations
The bench comprising Justices Ashok Bhushan, S K Kaul and M R Shah however raised concerns regarding the viability of direction to pay 100% wages when the industries and establishments were forced to shut down.
"We are concerned with 29 March notification. It asks for 100 per cent payment and prosecution. We have reservations over this. Some discussion should be held to work out some solution for this period of time", Justice S K Kaul observed.
The bench also noted that the Government invoked Disaster Management Act, instead of the Industrial Disputes Act, and insisted that employers should pay 100% wages.
"The question is do you have power to get them to pay 100 per cent and on their failure to do so, prosecute them...There is a concern that workmen should not be left without pay, but industry may not have the money to pay", Justice Kaul remarked.
The bench said that there has to be negotiations with the industry, and government should play the role of a facilitator.
"We can find out via media. Give us a practical solution", the bench told the AG.
The AG insisted that the Court should consider the background of humanitarian situation due to which the order was issued
"The most appropriate thing would be to consider the humanitarian situation due to which this order was issued", he said.
The bench also invited the AG's attention to the prayers of some petitioners seeking to direct the Government to subsidize wages.
The AG replied that the Government has already taken a decision to infuse Rs.20,000 crores into the MSME sector.
The bench stressed that there should be negotiations with the employers.
"Some negotiations have to happen between employers and workmen to iron out what to be done for the salary for these 54 days", Justice Bhushan observed.
Justice S K Kaul added "On one hand you say you're trying to put money in the pocket of worker, so now some negotiation is required for a solution".
Financial incapacity not a ground to challenge the order : MHA affidavit
Earlier, the MHA filed a counter-affidavit in the cases, defending the March 29 notification. Financial incapacity cannot be a reason to challenge the notification, the MHA said.
"Financial incapacity is a legally untenable ground to challenge a direction issued by a competent authority in the exercise of its statutory power", stated the MHA's counter affidavit.
The MHA explained that directions were a temporary measure to "mitigate the financial hardship of the employees and workers specially contractual and casual during the lockdown period."
The MHA also informed the Court that the March 29 notification has ceased to have with effect from May 18.
Previous developments
On May 15, the SC had passed an interim order in the petitions filed by Hand Tools Manufacturers Association and Jute Mills Association that that no coercive action should be taken against the petitioners for non-compliance of the MHA direction.
On May 26, the SC had issued extended the interim orders passed in the cases of Hand Tools Manufacturers Association and Jute Mills Association
The petitions challenged the order issued by Home Secretary on March 29 invoking powers under Section 10(2)(l) of the Disaster Management Act 2005, which directed as follows :
"All the employees, be it in the Industry or in the shops and commercial establishments, shall make payment of wages of their workers, at their work places, on the due date, without any deduction, for the period their establishments are under closure during the lockdown"
The MHA direction was challenged as unreasonable and arbitrary and as violative of the fundamental right to trade and business of the employers. Since operations are completely shut down during the lockdown, it is impossible for the employers to continue to bear the burden of full salary of employees, the petitioners submitted.
The petitioner(s) have also raised the argument that the impugned direction was beyond the scope of powers conferred under the Disaster Management Act.
"Interpreting Section 10(2)(l) of the Disaster Management Act 2005 as conferring power on the Central Government to direct Private Establishment to make full payment of wages to the employees during the lockdown period is arbitrary and violative of Articles 14, 19(1)(g) and 300A of the Constitution of India", said one of the pleas
From India, Mumbai
Today i.e. Thursday 04.06.2020 the Supreme Court passed an interim order that no coercive action should be taken against employers for failure to comply with the March 29 order of the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) for full payment of wages.
The Court reserved orders for June 12 on the petitions challenging the MHA notification and restrained coercive action till then.
I am giving below the text copy paste which I received from some one, for your quick reference:
"No coercive action will be taken against any employers pursuant to March 29 MHA order. Therefore, interim order to continue till June 12. All parties given liberty to file written submissions within three days", ordered a bench comprising Justices Ashok Bhushan, S K Kaul and M R Shah.
MHA notification to prevent human suffering, AG tells
The direction issued by the Ministry of Home Affairs was intended to prevent human suffering amid the national lockdown, said Attorney General, KK Venugopal.
"The notification is for preventing human suffering", said the AG in response to a batch of petitions challenging the order issued on March 29 invoking the powers under Disaster Management Act.
"People were migrating in crores, they wanted the industries to continue. The notification was to keep the workers put, they would only stay put if they are paid", the AG explained.
The AG also submitted that the National Executive Committee under the Disaster Management Act can issue the notification, as the Act gives it wide powers "lay down guidelines of any kind" to deal with disasters.
Bench expresses reservations
The bench comprising Justices Ashok Bhushan, S K Kaul and M R Shah however raised concerns regarding the viability of direction to pay 100% wages when the industries and establishments were forced to shut down.
"We are concerned with 29 March notification. It asks for 100 per cent payment and prosecution. We have reservations over this. Some discussion should be held to work out some solution for this period of time", Justice S K Kaul observed.
The bench also noted that the Government invoked Disaster Management Act, instead of the Industrial Disputes Act, and insisted that employers should pay 100% wages.
"The question is do you have power to get them to pay 100 per cent and on their failure to do so, prosecute them...There is a concern that workmen should not be left without pay, but industry may not have the money to pay", Justice Kaul remarked.
The bench said that there has to be negotiations with the industry, and government should play the role of a facilitator.
"We can find out via media. Give us a practical solution", the bench told the AG.
The AG insisted that the Court should consider the background of humanitarian situation due to which the order was issued
"The most appropriate thing would be to consider the humanitarian situation due to which this order was issued", he said.
The bench also invited the AG's attention to the prayers of some petitioners seeking to direct the Government to subsidize wages.
The AG replied that the Government has already taken a decision to infuse Rs.20,000 crores into the MSME sector.
The bench stressed that there should be negotiations with the employers.
"Some negotiations have to happen between employers and workmen to iron out what to be done for the salary for these 54 days", Justice Bhushan observed.
Justice S K Kaul added "On one hand you say you're trying to put money in the pocket of worker, so now some negotiation is required for a solution".
Financial incapacity not a ground to challenge the order : MHA affidavit
Earlier, the MHA filed a counter-affidavit in the cases, defending the March 29 notification. Financial incapacity cannot be a reason to challenge the notification, the MHA said.
"Financial incapacity is a legally untenable ground to challenge a direction issued by a competent authority in the exercise of its statutory power", stated the MHA's counter affidavit.
The MHA explained that directions were a temporary measure to "mitigate the financial hardship of the employees and workers specially contractual and casual during the lockdown period."
The MHA also informed the Court that the March 29 notification has ceased to have with effect from May 18.
Previous developments
On May 15, the SC had passed an interim order in the petitions filed by Hand Tools Manufacturers Association and Jute Mills Association that that no coercive action should be taken against the petitioners for non-compliance of the MHA direction.
On May 26, the SC had issued extended the interim orders passed in the cases of Hand Tools Manufacturers Association and Jute Mills Association
The petitions challenged the order issued by Home Secretary on March 29 invoking powers under Section 10(2)(l) of the Disaster Management Act 2005, which directed as follows :
"All the employees, be it in the Industry or in the shops and commercial establishments, shall make payment of wages of their workers, at their work places, on the due date, without any deduction, for the period their establishments are under closure during the lockdown"
The MHA direction was challenged as unreasonable and arbitrary and as violative of the fundamental right to trade and business of the employers. Since operations are completely shut down during the lockdown, it is impossible for the employers to continue to bear the burden of full salary of employees, the petitioners submitted.
The petitioner(s) have also raised the argument that the impugned direction was beyond the scope of powers conferred under the Disaster Management Act.
"Interpreting Section 10(2)(l) of the Disaster Management Act 2005 as conferring power on the Central Government to direct Private Establishment to make full payment of wages to the employees during the lockdown period is arbitrary and violative of Articles 14, 19(1)(g) and 300A of the Constitution of India", said one of the pleas
From India, Mumbai
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