Dear All
thnx for all these replies.
i would like to give answer to some questions that have come up.......
first d boss is 62 yrs old bt is still at job coz he is on extension......
second,some members seem offended by this personal post.i fully agree dat citehr has the motive of helping the hrd ppl in their professional career.i feel itz a very staunch site for any hr personnel.this particular post was posted to get d comments of d hr fraternity.the only reason for posting this post in a public professional forum is feeling of oneness dat the undersigned feels towards any hr person.some might think its overexpression.but then.every1 has got d freedom of thought........
third,since in d ages were mentioned someone has written if d boss wasnt 62,wuld the girl have accepted in that case.my dear fellow member its not a question of accepting or not accepting in case of a younger boss.the ages were mentioned to let it know how a person can approach another who is even younger than his own daughter.
human mind & nature are difficult to decipher.still,when one says anythng the entire scenario should be kept in mind.the world wont remain this sweet if we really start speaking up our minds.we really should keep in mind where to say what.itz ofcourse expected from a gm hrd of a premier company.
thnx again for all the suggestions.
From India, Calcutta
2thnx for all these replies.
i would like to give answer to some questions that have come up.......
first d boss is 62 yrs old bt is still at job coz he is on extension......
second,some members seem offended by this personal post.i fully agree dat citehr has the motive of helping the hrd ppl in their professional career.i feel itz a very staunch site for any hr personnel.this particular post was posted to get d comments of d hr fraternity.the only reason for posting this post in a public professional forum is feeling of oneness dat the undersigned feels towards any hr person.some might think its overexpression.but then.every1 has got d freedom of thought........
third,since in d ages were mentioned someone has written if d boss wasnt 62,wuld the girl have accepted in that case.my dear fellow member its not a question of accepting or not accepting in case of a younger boss.the ages were mentioned to let it know how a person can approach another who is even younger than his own daughter.
human mind & nature are difficult to decipher.still,when one says anythng the entire scenario should be kept in mind.the world wont remain this sweet if we really start speaking up our minds.we really should keep in mind where to say what.itz ofcourse expected from a gm hrd of a premier company.
thnx again for all the suggestions.
From India, Calcutta
dear avi
Dont worry things will get all right. Treat them in other way. The person who proposed is psychologically affected. You can find these kind of people very where. once if you know how to tackle ( since iam in the social work field) Don t create a big issue treat them in fron t of your collegue that he is like your father and purposefully show him that you are treating him as your father defenately he will change. quiting the job will show your weakness wherever you go u find these type of people. put him in a corner as if he is your real father.enjoy don t make it as a issue even if u quit and join other place somehow they will talk about this. that will spoil the career.he may be in a family aversion state. find his childhood experience, if he is married you just try to meet his wife and be friendly with her.
janaki
From India, Madras
Dont worry things will get all right. Treat them in other way. The person who proposed is psychologically affected. You can find these kind of people very where. once if you know how to tackle ( since iam in the social work field) Don t create a big issue treat them in fron t of your collegue that he is like your father and purposefully show him that you are treating him as your father defenately he will change. quiting the job will show your weakness wherever you go u find these type of people. put him in a corner as if he is your real father.enjoy don t make it as a issue even if u quit and join other place somehow they will talk about this. that will spoil the career.he may be in a family aversion state. find his childhood experience, if he is married you just try to meet his wife and be friendly with her.
janaki
From India, Madras
Hi Baby,
This Is Utterly A Confession Of Fabricated Story And Has No Chance Of Offence Or Got Offended By Any Of The Responses Specially Matured And Senior People Like Me Very Well Read Between The Lines That This Post Is Frivolous And React Accordingly As Per The Quality Of The Subject And Post.....
Some Senior Members Expressed Frustration And Their Anguish Disproportionately Just Because Of Misunderstanding......
I experienced in my 18 years of career there are two kinds of professionals:
1st one those who are theoretically strong but practically failure in their professional career and been rescued by the jobs of consultants or lecturer or visiting faculty to any institutes....because they did not survived in the field just because they lack practical approach in profession.
2nd kind of professionals who are not theoretically strong enough but they are most successful in dealing any situation and problem in professional life because this is their strength they work and survive in profession.
For Those, Who Misjudged The Notorious Nature Of This Post And Reacted Out Of Proportion, I Will Say That They May Be Theoretically Successful Personnel And Labour Laws Expertise But Less Practical And Experienced Enough To Apply Their Judgment And Knowledge In Real Life.............
Badlu
From Saudi Arabia
This Is Utterly A Confession Of Fabricated Story And Has No Chance Of Offence Or Got Offended By Any Of The Responses Specially Matured And Senior People Like Me Very Well Read Between The Lines That This Post Is Frivolous And React Accordingly As Per The Quality Of The Subject And Post.....
Some Senior Members Expressed Frustration And Their Anguish Disproportionately Just Because Of Misunderstanding......
I experienced in my 18 years of career there are two kinds of professionals:
1st one those who are theoretically strong but practically failure in their professional career and been rescued by the jobs of consultants or lecturer or visiting faculty to any institutes....because they did not survived in the field just because they lack practical approach in profession.
2nd kind of professionals who are not theoretically strong enough but they are most successful in dealing any situation and problem in professional life because this is their strength they work and survive in profession.
For Those, Who Misjudged The Notorious Nature Of This Post And Reacted Out Of Proportion, I Will Say That They May Be Theoretically Successful Personnel And Labour Laws Expertise But Less Practical And Experienced Enough To Apply Their Judgment And Knowledge In Real Life.............
Badlu
From Saudi Arabia
I am appalled that a person in HR is so unprofessional as to make inappropriate comments/remarks/suggestions.
Is it possible that he was trying to be funny ? Are you sure it was not someone else pretending to be the GMHR as it was on the phone.
But if it was the HRGM & he was serious - you have a problem.
You are quite right in stating why should she leave her job but is she then prepared for the boss to continue to make verbal advances ( which if not dealt with can lead to physical advances and sexual harassment) ?
I would suggest that she take up this matter in writing with the HR Gm. Let him know , in no uncertain terms, that she did not find the conversation funny . In fact it made her very uncomfortable and that she was surprised that a person of his calibre should resort to tactics of sexual nature be they verbal or otherwise. If the GM continues in this manner she will have no other path but to seek an interview with the person above him .
Name him and shame him if the victim is absolutely positive the voice on the phone was the HR GM.
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
Is it possible that he was trying to be funny ? Are you sure it was not someone else pretending to be the GMHR as it was on the phone.
But if it was the HRGM & he was serious - you have a problem.
You are quite right in stating why should she leave her job but is she then prepared for the boss to continue to make verbal advances ( which if not dealt with can lead to physical advances and sexual harassment) ?
I would suggest that she take up this matter in writing with the HR Gm. Let him know , in no uncertain terms, that she did not find the conversation funny . In fact it made her very uncomfortable and that she was surprised that a person of his calibre should resort to tactics of sexual nature be they verbal or otherwise. If the GM continues in this manner she will have no other path but to seek an interview with the person above him .
Name him and shame him if the victim is absolutely positive the voice on the phone was the HR GM.
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
You are quite right in your comments. Sexual harassment in the work place is soul destroying. To negate it to a joke is dispicable. This is a professional forum and if we cannot make a positive contribution we should not make any comment at all.
As a HR specialist for 35 years I have dealt with sexual harassment cases from sexual jokes to full scale sexual harassment. I have seen how it has affected both men and women and the result of such behaviour is not edifying.
If this is a joke ( accoding to Bad loser) then it is something the webmaster must deal with. However if it is a case then it is worrying and if we can assist the victim with advice we should do so.
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
As a HR specialist for 35 years I have dealt with sexual harassment cases from sexual jokes to full scale sexual harassment. I have seen how it has affected both men and women and the result of such behaviour is not edifying.
If this is a joke ( accoding to Bad loser) then it is something the webmaster must deal with. However if it is a case then it is worrying and if we can assist the victim with advice we should do so.
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
Dear,
My only request is to disclose this type of person before everyone. We are in the HR dept, whr we are one to the change environment like building good team work, good attitude etc.
See if you start, then possibility many of the US will share their bitter expeirence, whatsoever place they are working.
EXPOSE that name of that BASTARD let the whole WORLD knows. So from next time neither either anyperson will try to do this type of behaviour is whichever field she is working
Eagerly Wating for the name
With Regards
Vivek
From India, Ahmadabad
My only request is to disclose this type of person before everyone. We are in the HR dept, whr we are one to the change environment like building good team work, good attitude etc.
See if you start, then possibility many of the US will share their bitter expeirence, whatsoever place they are working.
EXPOSE that name of that BASTARD let the whole WORLD knows. So from next time neither either anyperson will try to do this type of behaviour is whichever field she is working
Eagerly Wating for the name
With Regards
Vivek
From India, Ahmadabad
hi AKS
Just be diplomatic and ignore all the comments that 62 old yrs guy is telling. as per your initials AKS shows u have the power to fight any of the war's. be brave and just follow your inner soul which tells u to do, but by using the brains. u are near to the solution. think of it just for 30 minutes with your eye closed and you will get the solution. REMEMBER 1 THING, the problem in one's life is to be solved by self only, no one is going to come to solve it. so do it BEST OF LUCK.
Regards
vishal
From India, Vadodara
Just be diplomatic and ignore all the comments that 62 old yrs guy is telling. as per your initials AKS shows u have the power to fight any of the war's. be brave and just follow your inner soul which tells u to do, but by using the brains. u are near to the solution. think of it just for 30 minutes with your eye closed and you will get the solution. REMEMBER 1 THING, the problem in one's life is to be solved by self only, no one is going to come to solve it. so do it BEST OF LUCK.
Regards
vishal
From India, Vadodara
There is nothing to feel bad rather appreciate the GM's frankness and had the nerves to speak to you! This is not the end of the issue. Get along as ever you did prior to the phone call and befriend his family members which he should be aware of. Rest assured his behaviour towards you will be more of fear rather than trying the odd trick!
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
Hi AKS,
I wish to agree with Badlu's logic.
The boss is a senior person and holding the position of GM-HR (deservingly?). He must have earned this position with a lot of hardwork and I am sure he also knows all about psychology, sexual harrasment, motivation and all related issues. He would have definitely dealt with cases of sexual harrasment earlier in his career and would not put his career/ reputation at stake.
Keeping these aspect at back of her mind She should speak directly to her boss and tell him frankly that such comment makes her very uncomfortable and are not welcome. She is also advised to work with confidence and talk to the boss to the point about work related issues only.
Cheers
Avinash Tyagi
I wish to agree with Badlu's logic.
The boss is a senior person and holding the position of GM-HR (deservingly?). He must have earned this position with a lot of hardwork and I am sure he also knows all about psychology, sexual harrasment, motivation and all related issues. He would have definitely dealt with cases of sexual harrasment earlier in his career and would not put his career/ reputation at stake.
Keeping these aspect at back of her mind She should speak directly to her boss and tell him frankly that such comment makes her very uncomfortable and are not welcome. She is also advised to work with confidence and talk to the boss to the point about work related issues only.
Cheers
Avinash Tyagi
Hi,
Mu suggestion would be that the girl should be very firm in handling her relation with the GM very professionally. no one can intrude your personal space unless u gice the other person that flexibility. If still the things go beyond any control, the girl always has an option to take it to higher management. If nothing works out, she should move out and stop this at once. It will hamper not only her personal & professional life but also affect his family.relations are more important as compared to career aspirations.
From India, Aurangabad
Mu suggestion would be that the girl should be very firm in handling her relation with the GM very professionally. no one can intrude your personal space unless u gice the other person that flexibility. If still the things go beyond any control, the girl always has an option to take it to higher management. If nothing works out, she should move out and stop this at once. It will hamper not only her personal & professional life but also affect his family.relations are more important as compared to career aspirations.
From India, Aurangabad
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