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My dear Satyaish
All your threads have been posted with the intention of DRIVING TRAFFIC to your website; with teaser and catchy headlines and a LINK to your websites.
All other posts from you are in response and posted on your threads only; and create more controversies and offensive responses so as to drive more and more traffic to your site.
It is not very encouraging to find you have been posting threads/posts in CiteHR.com solely for the purpose of PROMOTING your blog/website.
From India, Delhi
All your threads have been posted with the intention of DRIVING TRAFFIC to your website; with teaser and catchy headlines and a LINK to your websites.
All other posts from you are in response and posted on your threads only; and create more controversies and offensive responses so as to drive more and more traffic to your site.
It is not very encouraging to find you have been posting threads/posts in CiteHR.com solely for the purpose of PROMOTING your blog/website.
From India, Delhi
Dear Mr. Raj Kumar,
I do not deny that my posts drive traffic to my website and my intention is to promote myself. I am actually proud of that and see nothing wrong in that, as it is also a part of this forum's policies to allow posts of promotion.
Furthermore, my posts have contributed to the content of your forum and have engaged many users in discussion.
Finally, I do engage in discussions around my posts and your forum does benefit from that.
I do not see why someone would have issues with that.
From India, Ghaziabad
I do not deny that my posts drive traffic to my website and my intention is to promote myself. I am actually proud of that and see nothing wrong in that, as it is also a part of this forum's policies to allow posts of promotion.
Furthermore, my posts have contributed to the content of your forum and have engaged many users in discussion.
Finally, I do engage in discussions around my posts and your forum does benefit from that.
I do not see why someone would have issues with that.
From India, Ghaziabad
Here's another installment of the same message: Tiny Post: Certifications Are a Scam - 4
From India, Ghaziabad
From India, Ghaziabad
Dear Mr.Sathyaish,
Sharing an opinion or a generic view is entirely different from educating the world. An opinion needs relevant data , to back it up . If you had an opinion about training certification, it would have been a valid point, had you backed it, with data from training companies who are contributing to such scams. An open statement, finger points to everyone who is working in the sector, including the genuine and the renowned ones.
To Mr.Raj Kumar's point, the contribution to our community can be best explained by Narshimhan, Samvedan, Sateesh and Raj Kumar's posts.
They have been endlessly mentoring us without any self promotion. It took me more than an year to know about Simhan's work . Meeting Samvedan was a dream come true, he's been my mentor since then. They have more than 3 decades of work and are extremely well respected by the industry leaders. Yet, never promote their laurels . Satheesh is a very senior leader, yet remains so amiable and approachable, absolutely without any airs. Raj kumar, responds to the queries , even in the dead of the night! They dont even mention details about their education and work in the profile section, which is a natural platform in this community
Self-promotion is a culture, which have a merit of its own. However , this community is about contributing anonymously. Its one of its kind .
When your solution to a member's question is good, you may not need to promote your self, as you are already establishing your skills with it. Intent and knowledge is best promoted through work. Adding your website to your signature will serve the purpose of making your digital footprint visible. Please avoid sharing it within the post
From India, Mumbai
Sharing an opinion or a generic view is entirely different from educating the world. An opinion needs relevant data , to back it up . If you had an opinion about training certification, it would have been a valid point, had you backed it, with data from training companies who are contributing to such scams. An open statement, finger points to everyone who is working in the sector, including the genuine and the renowned ones.
To Mr.Raj Kumar's point, the contribution to our community can be best explained by Narshimhan, Samvedan, Sateesh and Raj Kumar's posts.
They have been endlessly mentoring us without any self promotion. It took me more than an year to know about Simhan's work . Meeting Samvedan was a dream come true, he's been my mentor since then. They have more than 3 decades of work and are extremely well respected by the industry leaders. Yet, never promote their laurels . Satheesh is a very senior leader, yet remains so amiable and approachable, absolutely without any airs. Raj kumar, responds to the queries , even in the dead of the night! They dont even mention details about their education and work in the profile section, which is a natural platform in this community
Self-promotion is a culture, which have a merit of its own. However , this community is about contributing anonymously. Its one of its kind .
When your solution to a member's question is good, you may not need to promote your self, as you are already establishing your skills with it. Intent and knowledge is best promoted through work. Adding your website to your signature will serve the purpose of making your digital footprint visible. Please avoid sharing it within the post
From India, Mumbai
Hello Sathyaish,
Going thru the postings by you & other members in the past couple of days, suggest look @ your attempts from a few different points of view.
There's nothing wrong @ self-promotion per se. There are TWO ways one does this exercise--based on SELF-STRENGTHS OR based on the weakness/lacunae/wrongs [or in the Worst-case-scenario--denigration] OF THE OTHERS. You seem to have chosen the later method. Strictly speaking, again like I said, there may not be anything wrong in this--but there WILL be consequences. One has to be prepared for them--and, mind you, they MAY NOT be exactly what one thinks they will be. Like that saying goes: In nature, there are no Rights or Wrongs--only Consequences.
I am sure most, including you, would have noticed this way of interacting with others in all areas of human interaction--personal, business, official, political & even among friends. But take it from me, this sort/method of self-promotion DOESN'T take one very far & that's when the whole chain of consequences begin leading to retribution/pain/attribution-of-motives, etc--for a simple reason: it becomes very easy & at the same time very tough to even realize, when one is crossing the 'THIN LINE' from 'self-promotion' to 'self-aggrandization' [by when any course-correction becomes very tough--if not altogether impossible]. Hope you get the point.
There's one comment I can't desist from making w.r.t. your lines: "Furthermore, my posts have contributed to the content of your forum and have engaged many users in discussion. Finally, I do engage in discussions around my posts and your forum does benefit from that."
When one says/does/contributes/mentions anything in a public forum/platform like CiteHR, pl note that it's for OTHERS to judge/evaluate whether the inputs have contributed in any way to the general knowledge-enhancement of the Forum, if at all.
Human psychology being what it is, it little matters what the intent was meant to be in any interaction--all that matters is HOW IS IT VIEWED. If I think I am praising you, but you think that I am abusing you, your RESPONSE will be guided by YOUR PERCEPTION & not my intent, howsoever noble.
And this is in addition to what (Cite Contribution) mentioned about the unsaid rules of CiteHR interaction--which contributed in a BIG way in making it what it is today--Sharing without expectations [one can define this aspect in many ways]. If kudos come, well & good, if not, then still fine with it--since the initial & basic focus was always on 'Sharing' & not on the kudos or how much of it [or to put it in another way--what's in it for me?].
And this is what actually made me get active in CiteHR way back in 2009 in the First place--something that practices [in howsoever limited way] what the BhagavatGita says: Your right & duty/responsibility [though the English words 'duty' or 'responsibility' don't quite convey the EXACT meaning of the Sanskrit words used in the original text--"Farz" could be the closest in Hindi/Urdu] are limited to perform your action to the best of your ability, but NOT in expecting the fruits/results to your benefit.
I do hope this is taken in the right perspective.
All the Best.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Going thru the postings by you & other members in the past couple of days, suggest look @ your attempts from a few different points of view.
There's nothing wrong @ self-promotion per se. There are TWO ways one does this exercise--based on SELF-STRENGTHS OR based on the weakness/lacunae/wrongs [or in the Worst-case-scenario--denigration] OF THE OTHERS. You seem to have chosen the later method. Strictly speaking, again like I said, there may not be anything wrong in this--but there WILL be consequences. One has to be prepared for them--and, mind you, they MAY NOT be exactly what one thinks they will be. Like that saying goes: In nature, there are no Rights or Wrongs--only Consequences.
I am sure most, including you, would have noticed this way of interacting with others in all areas of human interaction--personal, business, official, political & even among friends. But take it from me, this sort/method of self-promotion DOESN'T take one very far & that's when the whole chain of consequences begin leading to retribution/pain/attribution-of-motives, etc--for a simple reason: it becomes very easy & at the same time very tough to even realize, when one is crossing the 'THIN LINE' from 'self-promotion' to 'self-aggrandization' [by when any course-correction becomes very tough--if not altogether impossible]. Hope you get the point.
There's one comment I can't desist from making w.r.t. your lines: "Furthermore, my posts have contributed to the content of your forum and have engaged many users in discussion. Finally, I do engage in discussions around my posts and your forum does benefit from that."
When one says/does/contributes/mentions anything in a public forum/platform like CiteHR, pl note that it's for OTHERS to judge/evaluate whether the inputs have contributed in any way to the general knowledge-enhancement of the Forum, if at all.
Human psychology being what it is, it little matters what the intent was meant to be in any interaction--all that matters is HOW IS IT VIEWED. If I think I am praising you, but you think that I am abusing you, your RESPONSE will be guided by YOUR PERCEPTION & not my intent, howsoever noble.
And this is in addition to what (Cite Contribution) mentioned about the unsaid rules of CiteHR interaction--which contributed in a BIG way in making it what it is today--Sharing without expectations [one can define this aspect in many ways]. If kudos come, well & good, if not, then still fine with it--since the initial & basic focus was always on 'Sharing' & not on the kudos or how much of it [or to put it in another way--what's in it for me?].
And this is what actually made me get active in CiteHR way back in 2009 in the First place--something that practices [in howsoever limited way] what the BhagavatGita says: Your right & duty/responsibility [though the English words 'duty' or 'responsibility' don't quite convey the EXACT meaning of the Sanskrit words used in the original text--"Farz" could be the closest in Hindi/Urdu] are limited to perform your action to the best of your ability, but NOT in expecting the fruits/results to your benefit.
I do hope this is taken in the right perspective.
All the Best.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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