But priya, when she is not giving me a change to outperform her... how would i be able to d it? Now for any training proposal, it must go through her... even if she is on leave... it must be communicated to her and she says once she is back then she will only forward it?
I am in good terms with her only... i am always keeping a smiling face but you see i cannot pretend for long.. os i stay mum...
Also with regard to Manager taking trainings - We have already organised a leadership training from an external vendor, my manager also attended that training (even i attended it as part of the HRD team) but no results on her!!!
Also the personality development session which you are talking about was taken till level 2 employees for all managerial sessions we call outside vendors only. So till Level 2 trainings she can very well take the session and i cannot stop her on that :(
From India, Delhi
I am in good terms with her only... i am always keeping a smiling face but you see i cannot pretend for long.. os i stay mum...
Also with regard to Manager taking trainings - We have already organised a leadership training from an external vendor, my manager also attended that training (even i attended it as part of the HRD team) but no results on her!!!
Also the personality development session which you are talking about was taken till level 2 employees for all managerial sessions we call outside vendors only. So till Level 2 trainings she can very well take the session and i cannot stop her on that :(
From India, Delhi
Yes Rajesh i do agree what you are saying.....but till what extend can any body tolerate this behavior? I admit that hardwork pays its return and i myself believe on this.... but as long as she is here... my hardwork is only shown in front of her and she makes sure its not shared with others in the organisaiton. She being a tenured employee (2.5 years)......always has an upper hand!
From India, Delhi
From India, Delhi
Hi Manisha,
I assume that there exist a vast Age difference between you and your immediate superior.
If the answer is yes, please ignore the happenings. A day is definitely waiting for you (not far off) and your capabilities will be duly recognised by your Management.
If my above assumption is wrong and If I were in your shoes,
I shall do the assigned duties, howsoever trivial it may be.
Shall record the same for my records.
Shall send the Reports on regular basis and solicit her views on jobs completed.
Shall not feel if I am not receiving any comments on the completed job assigned as per the Report.
Shall not create politics by discussing with other / same department colleagues.
But I strongly believe that "THOSE WHO WAIT WILL ALWAYS GET BETTER".
Please remember we are not working for a single individual as we work for our Organization.
These issues are like bubbles, quickly it will burst.:icon1:
Regards
Srinivas B
From India, Madras
I assume that there exist a vast Age difference between you and your immediate superior.
If the answer is yes, please ignore the happenings. A day is definitely waiting for you (not far off) and your capabilities will be duly recognised by your Management.
If my above assumption is wrong and If I were in your shoes,
I shall do the assigned duties, howsoever trivial it may be.
Shall record the same for my records.
Shall send the Reports on regular basis and solicit her views on jobs completed.
Shall not feel if I am not receiving any comments on the completed job assigned as per the Report.
Shall not create politics by discussing with other / same department colleagues.
But I strongly believe that "THOSE WHO WAIT WILL ALWAYS GET BETTER".
Please remember we are not working for a single individual as we work for our Organization.
These issues are like bubbles, quickly it will burst.:icon1:
Regards
Srinivas B
From India, Madras
What you have stated is the order of the day. Please control your anger and try not to antagonise your supervisor. You pull up all your socks and try to go all along with her. You are so young and
time & opportunity comes your way. Clouds can hide the sun's brightness only for a while and finally sun only shines. So, please concentrate on your work and not on your supervisor. I fully agree with Priya's views. Have patience pls.
From India, Madras
4time & opportunity comes your way. Clouds can hide the sun's brightness only for a while and finally sun only shines. So, please concentrate on your work and not on your supervisor. I fully agree with Priya's views. Have patience pls.
From India, Madras
hi manisha...
even i have gone through this....i also worked in such an environment for almost 2 years...then i asked my hrd manager to change my deptt as i didnot see any scope of advancement in my current role and position...
bt my manager was ready to relieve me as i was the key performer in my deptt....
as a result i quit my job....
i would suggest you to plaease start looking for jobs..once you get other option...you can quit...
best wishes
From India, Delhi
even i have gone through this....i also worked in such an environment for almost 2 years...then i asked my hrd manager to change my deptt as i didnot see any scope of advancement in my current role and position...
bt my manager was ready to relieve me as i was the key performer in my deptt....
as a result i quit my job....
i would suggest you to plaease start looking for jobs..once you get other option...you can quit...
best wishes
From India, Delhi
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I presume it is an Indian company, I feel you should start looking at the better job and the day it is confirmed youcan make an effort to going to your present MD or chairman and tell him about your HR head and this will ruin her image thingsmay change.
From India, Mumbai
I presume it is an Indian company, I feel you should start looking at the better job and the day it is confirmed youcan make an effort to going to your present MD or chairman and tell him about your HR head and this will ruin her image thingsmay change.
From India, Mumbai
Manisha,
Quitting jobs, complaining about your superior while leaving the job are all temporary solutions to your problems causing permanent hardships. Trying to find permanent solutions would only help you. Suppose, if you could find the same situation in a new company, would you quit. Further, you only have said that your superior was very kind in the initial days. So, go for a soul
search what you/your acts like gossiping about her etc., has
precipitated her. Being in the same department, she should have
selected you for this job and if she was jealous, she could have screened you in the resume viewing stage itself. On the other hand, you should win her confidence so that when she goes up she will definitely recommend you for her post. Best of Luck!
From India, Madras
Quitting jobs, complaining about your superior while leaving the job are all temporary solutions to your problems causing permanent hardships. Trying to find permanent solutions would only help you. Suppose, if you could find the same situation in a new company, would you quit. Further, you only have said that your superior was very kind in the initial days. So, go for a soul
search what you/your acts like gossiping about her etc., has
precipitated her. Being in the same department, she should have
selected you for this job and if she was jealous, she could have screened you in the resume viewing stage itself. On the other hand, you should win her confidence so that when she goes up she will definitely recommend you for her post. Best of Luck!
From India, Madras
Dear Manisha,
Was very upset to know the situation in which you are managing every day. But such situation, in today's competitive field, prevails in almost all firms, big or small, . It's good to experience such situation in early stage of career & considered as a good learning.
In today's Competitive world Some people enjoy competition by Creativity, Hardwork, Smartwork etc. Also there are some opportunists / incapable / Oversmart people who are good in encashing others' credit on self account though they hear their inner voice as "Today or tommorow it will proove the fact / Truth."
However, your present situation is Uncontrollable and thus if it can not be controlled or changed then other option available is to CHANGE YOURSELF to manage.
It seams you know your job very well hence you love it and so it's my humble suggestion that pl. continue it till you have better opportunity in hand.
It seems that your Boss is easily manageable by you as you only mentioned that initially she was supportive. But later, quite obvious that, may be, your enthusiasm / overexposure in the departmental activities posed some fear in her way of operating and thus changed the situation.
Also it is said that every Organisation has got it's own Culture.To understand and get moulded in that culture, initially it takes time to every individual. During that period there is opportunity to develop Good (Not Goody) relations /rapo with inter / intra departmental people to carry out our task in line with organaisational Goal.
It is learnt that Relationship plays Vital role in any organisation which is stated as follow
( R1 = R2 + R3) ...... R1= RESULT, R2= RELATIONSHIP & R3 = RESOURCES)
In marathi it is said " Hatti hovoon Lakdae phodnnyapeksha Mungi Hovoon sakhar Khanne Kevhahi phayadyache" (Instead of having tussle unnecessarily with tough / rigid person, better to serve our purpose by humble way that is beneficial. Even without "wish n will" praising disliked person time being, will not cost anything. Afterall it's question of 8hrs a day which make rest of OUR 16hrs.Tensionfree & Enjoyable with our near & Dear ones.
To communicate top management thru' your Boss it may be tried that documents on your own initiatives /OWN Creative work etc. are marked in the Footer as "Compiled by Ms. Manisha" and may be also " Approved by : Ms xyz (your Boss's name)
Regards & All the Best for You, Manisha.
From Vilas P Tambe
From India, Mumbai
Was very upset to know the situation in which you are managing every day. But such situation, in today's competitive field, prevails in almost all firms, big or small, . It's good to experience such situation in early stage of career & considered as a good learning.
In today's Competitive world Some people enjoy competition by Creativity, Hardwork, Smartwork etc. Also there are some opportunists / incapable / Oversmart people who are good in encashing others' credit on self account though they hear their inner voice as "Today or tommorow it will proove the fact / Truth."
However, your present situation is Uncontrollable and thus if it can not be controlled or changed then other option available is to CHANGE YOURSELF to manage.
It seams you know your job very well hence you love it and so it's my humble suggestion that pl. continue it till you have better opportunity in hand.
It seems that your Boss is easily manageable by you as you only mentioned that initially she was supportive. But later, quite obvious that, may be, your enthusiasm / overexposure in the departmental activities posed some fear in her way of operating and thus changed the situation.
Also it is said that every Organisation has got it's own Culture.To understand and get moulded in that culture, initially it takes time to every individual. During that period there is opportunity to develop Good (Not Goody) relations /rapo with inter / intra departmental people to carry out our task in line with organaisational Goal.
It is learnt that Relationship plays Vital role in any organisation which is stated as follow
( R1 = R2 + R3) ...... R1= RESULT, R2= RELATIONSHIP & R3 = RESOURCES)
In marathi it is said " Hatti hovoon Lakdae phodnnyapeksha Mungi Hovoon sakhar Khanne Kevhahi phayadyache" (Instead of having tussle unnecessarily with tough / rigid person, better to serve our purpose by humble way that is beneficial. Even without "wish n will" praising disliked person time being, will not cost anything. Afterall it's question of 8hrs a day which make rest of OUR 16hrs.Tensionfree & Enjoyable with our near & Dear ones.
To communicate top management thru' your Boss it may be tried that documents on your own initiatives /OWN Creative work etc. are marked in the Footer as "Compiled by Ms. Manisha" and may be also " Approved by : Ms xyz (your Boss's name)
Regards & All the Best for You, Manisha.
From Vilas P Tambe
From India, Mumbai
Hi Srini,
As you said your assumption is incorrect. We dont have much of a age difference between us. She is pretty young. Even i am in good terms with her...and completes all the work she assigns to me before time and as you said i will be doing all the work. But my question is how long is it gonna take for me to get recognised in the company? Approx. till what time will she realise this???:(
From India, Mumbai
As you said your assumption is incorrect. We dont have much of a age difference between us. She is pretty young. Even i am in good terms with her...and completes all the work she assigns to me before time and as you said i will be doing all the work. But my question is how long is it gonna take for me to get recognised in the company? Approx. till what time will she realise this???:(
From India, Mumbai
Thank you all for your vbaluable comments! Really appreciate your efforts!.
I don't wanto search a new job because my employment history will be questioned. I am trying to cop up with her and trying to be nice and sincere. I do not have anger...i am frustated with the entire situation. The company has not appointed me at an Execute level hence, the cadre i have is equivalent to lead so definetely my manager should understand the fact that i am not a fresher and should treat me accordingly. She treats me like a fresher (may be) because when ever i ask her "when will i start sending it" she would say "i will let you know we are going too fast" and very cleverly she would forward the same mail to the management. Now if she has recruited me at this level she should acknowledge to the fact that i have the experience and knowledge to take up decisions and at least start sending initial mails to the employees.
When would she start believing in me?
Please share your thoughts
Regards
Manisha
From India, Mumbai
I don't wanto search a new job because my employment history will be questioned. I am trying to cop up with her and trying to be nice and sincere. I do not have anger...i am frustated with the entire situation. The company has not appointed me at an Execute level hence, the cadre i have is equivalent to lead so definetely my manager should understand the fact that i am not a fresher and should treat me accordingly. She treats me like a fresher (may be) because when ever i ask her "when will i start sending it" she would say "i will let you know we are going too fast" and very cleverly she would forward the same mail to the management. Now if she has recruited me at this level she should acknowledge to the fact that i have the experience and knowledge to take up decisions and at least start sending initial mails to the employees.
When would she start believing in me?
Please share your thoughts
Regards
Manisha
From India, Mumbai
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