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You amaze me... Kindly review and improve the attitude of HR Department toward your employees.
Other things can be improved thereafter.
From India, New Delhi
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You amaze me... Kindly review and improve the attitude of HR Department toward your employees.
Other things can be improved thereafter.
From India, New Delhi
Dear Classiccopperion,
Your overall wordings seem to suggest that there is a great amount of interest in only avoiding legal ramifications, come-what-may. But the advise received and the questions posed by Seniors doesn't seem to be of much importance. Additionally, your last post also signals of your possible intention of even not paying the notice pay to the unlucky employees... when the mistake is not at all theirs.
During the later part of your posts, you seem to have distanced yourself from your Management's actions, and claiming to have WIN-WIN etc. As rightly said by Mr Arvind Singh, there is a lot more improvement possible in the HR Department's functioning (in case you are indeed the HR personnel and not the proprietor himself).
From India, Mumbai
Your overall wordings seem to suggest that there is a great amount of interest in only avoiding legal ramifications, come-what-may. But the advise received and the questions posed by Seniors doesn't seem to be of much importance. Additionally, your last post also signals of your possible intention of even not paying the notice pay to the unlucky employees... when the mistake is not at all theirs.
During the later part of your posts, you seem to have distanced yourself from your Management's actions, and claiming to have WIN-WIN etc. As rightly said by Mr Arvind Singh, there is a lot more improvement possible in the HR Department's functioning (in case you are indeed the HR personnel and not the proprietor himself).
From India, Mumbai
Dear Mr. Mehta, I appreciate your comments, unfortunately being in the proprietorship firm Iam bound to follow instructions of the management or the proprieties.
The HR ground/or humanitarian ground may not prove to be useful to tackle present situation, as it is not as professional as it should have been. Hope you understand the situation. Since I was responsible for hiring so feel little guilty & sorry for the employees.
The intention of collection detailed legal information, so that I could present a solid case before the management making them realize the legal consequences.
This might prompt them to settle all the dues of employees peacefully & respectfully. I think this way I shall be able to help the employees.
So that's why I solicit information on legal options available to the employees.
From India, Delhi
The HR ground/or humanitarian ground may not prove to be useful to tackle present situation, as it is not as professional as it should have been. Hope you understand the situation. Since I was responsible for hiring so feel little guilty & sorry for the employees.
The intention of collection detailed legal information, so that I could present a solid case before the management making them realize the legal consequences.
This might prompt them to settle all the dues of employees peacefully & respectfully. I think this way I shall be able to help the employees.
So that's why I solicit information on legal options available to the employees.
From India, Delhi
Hi Every one..
I am working in IBM India since 2008, I joined IBM as a eng but after immediate joining they have assigned me a Project as a profile of project manger , since that time till Feb 2013 I was doing project management in various account and they have given me Performance (PBC) rating always good as in 2008 pbc was 2, in 2009 PBC was 2+ in 2010 again 2, in 2011 2+ and 2012 due to some unfair treatment by manager he has given me pbc rating 3. and after one month in 2013 suddenly they have send me in redeployment pool. for that lot of fighting done between HR partner and manager but no good result came in my faver. after one month I have raised a concern with ibm internal forum "concern & appeal " but nothing happen good for me...in between of fighting HR partner assigned a work in a lesser profile and changed the account and manager.... anyway i started working with my new manager but end of the year they again given me Performance (PBC) raiting -3 with saying that I have not done good work , however my contribution was very good among the peers. . when I have denied to take unfair PBC rating and given all the relevant artifacts to him for re assessment. After that day my manager started torture on me and send lot of unfair mails and escalation to me with looping HR... then I raised my concern into very Senior managers about the harassment... I also reported him that my manager always forced me to work 2 shift in a day. for that i send all the relevant artifact to HR (manager's approved shift rota.) in this regard my manager said to HR that on that day I was not in the office for doing the 2 shift.. however this is fact I was not there in office and worked from home as he was told me to work from home over the phone among all the peers..for showing the fact i have a chat history which is showing that I worked 19 hours in a day and also there are lot of mails in my send folder which is showing that I worked 19 hours on that day. .
Now pls suggest..
1. Can I raise my concern into the Labor law with saying that I worked 5 years in ibm as a manager but they have given me lesser salary while other employee was getting 75% more than me... IS it work?
2. As so many argument done between me, HR and my manager... is there any chances if my manager can terminate me...
3. in case my manager & HR terminating me then in this sititune what action will be best for me... Should I go to labor court and ask for stay ? is there any court rule to ask employer to reject the termination till the inquiry completion. or without any argument , i have to submit my registration instead of their termination.
4. In-case , IBM is terminating me. then what will be happen for my career . ... in term of getting the new job, reliving letter and other document.
pls revert.
Raiz
From Australia, Pymble
I am working in IBM India since 2008, I joined IBM as a eng but after immediate joining they have assigned me a Project as a profile of project manger , since that time till Feb 2013 I was doing project management in various account and they have given me Performance (PBC) rating always good as in 2008 pbc was 2, in 2009 PBC was 2+ in 2010 again 2, in 2011 2+ and 2012 due to some unfair treatment by manager he has given me pbc rating 3. and after one month in 2013 suddenly they have send me in redeployment pool. for that lot of fighting done between HR partner and manager but no good result came in my faver. after one month I have raised a concern with ibm internal forum "concern & appeal " but nothing happen good for me...in between of fighting HR partner assigned a work in a lesser profile and changed the account and manager.... anyway i started working with my new manager but end of the year they again given me Performance (PBC) raiting -3 with saying that I have not done good work , however my contribution was very good among the peers. . when I have denied to take unfair PBC rating and given all the relevant artifacts to him for re assessment. After that day my manager started torture on me and send lot of unfair mails and escalation to me with looping HR... then I raised my concern into very Senior managers about the harassment... I also reported him that my manager always forced me to work 2 shift in a day. for that i send all the relevant artifact to HR (manager's approved shift rota.) in this regard my manager said to HR that on that day I was not in the office for doing the 2 shift.. however this is fact I was not there in office and worked from home as he was told me to work from home over the phone among all the peers..for showing the fact i have a chat history which is showing that I worked 19 hours in a day and also there are lot of mails in my send folder which is showing that I worked 19 hours on that day. .
Now pls suggest..
1. Can I raise my concern into the Labor law with saying that I worked 5 years in ibm as a manager but they have given me lesser salary while other employee was getting 75% more than me... IS it work?
2. As so many argument done between me, HR and my manager... is there any chances if my manager can terminate me...
3. in case my manager & HR terminating me then in this sititune what action will be best for me... Should I go to labor court and ask for stay ? is there any court rule to ask employer to reject the termination till the inquiry completion. or without any argument , i have to submit my registration instead of their termination.
4. In-case , IBM is terminating me. then what will be happen for my career . ... in term of getting the new job, reliving letter and other document.
pls revert.
Raiz
From Australia, Pymble
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