I do agree with you, Dr. Mahanta, that consensus hardly comes to view because there is no such thing as 'consensus' in reality as the group gets larger and larger. Knowingly or unknowingly, we automatically get trapped into Aristotelian logic based on the principle of dualism, and we tend to blissfully refute the existence of a third alternative. Particularly in issues like the one we are discussing, what actually surfaces is 'false consensus'. The false consensus effect is a type of bias that makes the believer hold their viewpoint as the most common and appropriate, expecting others to feel the same way. No one is an exception.
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My stand is that, you should first categorized bureaucrats and politicians in different categories.
Bureaucrats: Highly qualified, trained and experienced (with time). They are assigned different positions and roles, based on their qualification, knowledge and skills. Yes, political affluence may be counted; however, it persistent in every field. Top bosses would like to have team, which understand him/her and he/she is confident about the team members. They are not accountable directly to public. They report/respond to the government only. “yatha raja (ministers) tatha praja (bureaucrats)”
Politicians: These are the elected public representatives, accountable to people directly (Atleast our system designed so). They depended on Bureaucrats to design/implement their plan (populist plans) to ensure that they can win next election too.
Politicians know the real problem and Bureaucrats know the solution for it. Politicians don’t need to be technically qualified same as businessman don’t have to concern about the technicalities. They are concerned about the policy and their effect on business/public. They hire resources to get plan implemented and to care of technicalities.
Farmers don’t necessarily need to goto Agricultural University, to do farming. There are many innovations used in day-to-day life, developed by persons who may not have seen the universities.
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Bureaucrats: Highly qualified, trained and experienced (with time). They are assigned different positions and roles, based on their qualification, knowledge and skills. Yes, political affluence may be counted; however, it persistent in every field. Top bosses would like to have team, which understand him/her and he/she is confident about the team members. They are not accountable directly to public. They report/respond to the government only. “yatha raja (ministers) tatha praja (bureaucrats)”
Politicians: These are the elected public representatives, accountable to people directly (Atleast our system designed so). They depended on Bureaucrats to design/implement their plan (populist plans) to ensure that they can win next election too.
Politicians know the real problem and Bureaucrats know the solution for it. Politicians don’t need to be technically qualified same as businessman don’t have to concern about the technicalities. They are concerned about the policy and their effect on business/public. They hire resources to get plan implemented and to care of technicalities.
Farmers don’t necessarily need to goto Agricultural University, to do farming. There are many innovations used in day-to-day life, developed by persons who may not have seen the universities.
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After all what are the credentials which make PM to choose some one (not necessarily an MP)as minister of a Ministry?
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As I mentioned in the case of bureaucrats, political influence does play a role, as is the case with ministers.
The UPA was influenced by regional parties, and everyone knows the criteria used by these parties for nominating someone for a ministerial post. Many times, they have considered caste/religion/region as criteria.
In the case of Smriti Irani, her dedication to accomplishing tasks seems to be one of her positive attributes. Many times, we are hesitant to take on a project, fearing failure and its potential negative effects on our profile. However, she has taken on responsibilities and contested from Chandni Chowk as well as Amethi, where everyone knew she would likely be defeated. Nevertheless, this move helped the BJP by portraying her as a serious contender and being confident of their victory.
Would you prefer to hire a driver for your children who is highly qualified and has various certifications, or someone whom you trust in both driving and taking care of your children? There are instances where qualifications and skills are necessary for hiring; however, a politician only needs to be a strong-willed person with logical thinking.
Ministers are the driving force of a government, and the PM always aims to have a team that can deliver (provided he has a choice). Raja was re-appointed even though Manmohan Singh did not want it, due to compulsion and a lack of strong will.
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The UPA was influenced by regional parties, and everyone knows the criteria used by these parties for nominating someone for a ministerial post. Many times, they have considered caste/religion/region as criteria.
In the case of Smriti Irani, her dedication to accomplishing tasks seems to be one of her positive attributes. Many times, we are hesitant to take on a project, fearing failure and its potential negative effects on our profile. However, she has taken on responsibilities and contested from Chandni Chowk as well as Amethi, where everyone knew she would likely be defeated. Nevertheless, this move helped the BJP by portraying her as a serious contender and being confident of their victory.
Would you prefer to hire a driver for your children who is highly qualified and has various certifications, or someone whom you trust in both driving and taking care of your children? There are instances where qualifications and skills are necessary for hiring; however, a politician only needs to be a strong-willed person with logical thinking.
Ministers are the driving force of a government, and the PM always aims to have a team that can deliver (provided he has a choice). Raja was re-appointed even though Manmohan Singh did not want it, due to compulsion and a lack of strong will.
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Politicians need to be only strong-willed individuals with logical thinking.
Attribution: https://www.citehr.com/495278-luck-c...#ixzz33XCHknn6
Is it so? Is this consensus on CiteHR? Is it not about loyalty and integrity?
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Attribution: https://www.citehr.com/495278-luck-c...#ixzz33XCHknn6
Is it so? Is this consensus on CiteHR? Is it not about loyalty and integrity?
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Really, it is an outstanding speech as it was delivered before an international audience. Addressing extemporaneously an international audience in a foreign language, flawlessly and fluently, complete with the marshalling of ideas and anecdotes befitting the subject matter, and a convincing presentation, requires a lot of communication skill. Thank you, Ragunathan!
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Thank you, Mr. Umakanthan, for your affirmative feedback. I hope other readers will also share their views.
As I was checking my previous posting, I found that a couple of inadvertent errors had crept in. The word "over" had been repeated twice. The last sentence should read, "...would have been there..."
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As I was checking my previous posting, I found that a couple of inadvertent errors had crept in. The word "over" had been repeated twice. The last sentence should read, "...would have been there..."
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Perhaps this will put to rest any qualms that were there in the beginning. V. Raghunathan
Please rejoice in the English translation of the 10th sloka from Shringara Shatakam of Bhartrihari: "There is no doubt that those great learned men have said the famous women are weak (abalaa) because of their stupidity. How can they be called weak when they conquer even Indra, etc., with their quick-moving pupils?"
Why has this wisdom not put to rest the "qualms" regarding women?
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Please rejoice in the English translation of the 10th sloka from Shringara Shatakam of Bhartrihari: "There is no doubt that those great learned men have said the famous women are weak (abalaa) because of their stupidity. How can they be called weak when they conquer even Indra, etc., with their quick-moving pupils?"
Why has this wisdom not put to rest the "qualms" regarding women?
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Dear Dr. Jogeshwar Mahanta,
My comment on putting to rest was with respect to the starting of this thread whether formal education is a MUST or otherwise for someone to be at the helm of affairs as an HRD Minister. Our HRD minister has clearly answered all her detractors with her captivating extempore speech. While many accolades are still pouring in, the doubts in the minds of many are now effectively addressed.
Your citing of a sloka brings out another dimension. In the last couple of centuries, learned men like Raja Ram Mohun Roy and Subramania Bharathiyar (there may be many; at this instance, I could recall only two names) have made immense contributions to the upliftment of women in India. Mrs. Smriti Irani gave a keynote speech on the empowerment of women. In that speech, she makes a statement that women would want to be heard.
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My comment on putting to rest was with respect to the starting of this thread whether formal education is a MUST or otherwise for someone to be at the helm of affairs as an HRD Minister. Our HRD minister has clearly answered all her detractors with her captivating extempore speech. While many accolades are still pouring in, the doubts in the minds of many are now effectively addressed.
Your citing of a sloka brings out another dimension. In the last couple of centuries, learned men like Raja Ram Mohun Roy and Subramania Bharathiyar (there may be many; at this instance, I could recall only two names) have made immense contributions to the upliftment of women in India. Mrs. Smriti Irani gave a keynote speech on the empowerment of women. In that speech, she makes a statement that women would want to be heard.
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And now, in supersession of Bhartrihari's wisdom, the Women's Reservation Bill will be passed, which has been pending for the last 4 years due to a lack of consensus. The ruling party now has the majority and a 'whip' in its hand, needing no consensus to pass a law.
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