Sandeep put the same message on two strings. This string seems to have had more replies than the other and I have copied my message posted on the other string.
Sandeep
Like so many, you also pose a very general question. Hence, it becomes difficult to answer.
I would say that it all depends upon what job you are seeking. I started out as an Electrical Engr, changed my field to Industrial Engineering. Then, I had no problem from moving from Eng to FCMG.
I got a break to teach part-time while working for a FCMG company; I also did my MSc, while working. Then I moved to teaching without a problem (All in UK).
Similarly, I know of people in marketing who have moved from Hewlet Packard to Adobe, Adobe to Symantec, and from Symantec to Avaya (a telecom firm).
So, like Sam has said, it all depends upon what you can offer.
Have a nice weekend.
Simhan
From United Kingdom
1624Sandeep
Like so many, you also pose a very general question. Hence, it becomes difficult to answer.
I would say that it all depends upon what job you are seeking. I started out as an Electrical Engr, changed my field to Industrial Engineering. Then, I had no problem from moving from Eng to FCMG.
I got a break to teach part-time while working for a FCMG company; I also did my MSc, while working. Then I moved to teaching without a problem (All in UK).
Similarly, I know of people in marketing who have moved from Hewlet Packard to Adobe, Adobe to Symantec, and from Symantec to Avaya (a telecom firm).
So, like Sam has said, it all depends upon what you can offer.
Have a nice weekend.
Simhan
From United Kingdom
Ravi Dear,
I think its enough, don't add fuel in fire.....:-D
Ash, Partho expressed their opinions in best possible manner. Difference in opinions is part of life and we have to accept diversity in personalities of different members.
This diversity makes citehr most coveted place.
Cheers.............
Warm Regards,
Abraham
From Saudi Arabia
I think its enough, don't add fuel in fire.....:-D
Ash, Partho expressed their opinions in best possible manner. Difference in opinions is part of life and we have to accept diversity in personalities of different members.
This diversity makes citehr most coveted place.
Cheers.............
Warm Regards,
Abraham
From Saudi Arabia
Partho, You did get to her backfiring at you man, you memories are short lives... Ash backfired at you on your essay and thesis comments........ Am I right,,,,,,,,,,,,,:-P Bhajiya
From Saudi Arabia
From Saudi Arabia
Dear Sandeep ,
The reason is if you go for sales of Financial product or Pharma product you need knowledge of that perticular product , why IRDA training is given to any one its because of knowledge of various policy is required to sell that perticular product and for pharma you may have seen B.Pharma , D. Pharma , B.Sc. graduates prefered because of their kowledge .
You need to understand one more thing sales and marketing both are two different field sales is a part of marketing , marketing is very vast field it includes everything sales, telesales, advertising etc and etc ok
In insurance or other financial product selling the target is of sales same in pharma sales revenue generation , in insurance you make agents in pharma you contact distributors ok
in both the manners you are generating sles of your product that gives revenue to your company .
So in FMCG you need to do marketing you need to make distributors , you need to introduce your product into market , you make people or targeted media aware of your product or services so in FMCG you are not selling you are marketing the product upto some extent in telecom also .
But its your misconception ...................................... regarding telecom , pharma and insurance many of my friends change their jobs from Finance to telecom .Ya its true FMCG is bit different because revenue generation idea is different their .
One thing i would like to say to Mr. Partha Sarthy being an Indian National it heart us to listen any thing wrong about our country so sir please mind your language from next time , donmt say anything wrong about anyone's country because it directly hurt our sentiments and love toward our country let me tell you One of my uncle hold a vey good position in reputed s/w company in US when any one ask him about his success he simply says it's all because of my country my nation indian who make me able to have this position today .
And asha for you " Kuch Bhi DIL PE MAT LE YAAR "
Regards
Shine
From India, Bhopal
The reason is if you go for sales of Financial product or Pharma product you need knowledge of that perticular product , why IRDA training is given to any one its because of knowledge of various policy is required to sell that perticular product and for pharma you may have seen B.Pharma , D. Pharma , B.Sc. graduates prefered because of their kowledge .
You need to understand one more thing sales and marketing both are two different field sales is a part of marketing , marketing is very vast field it includes everything sales, telesales, advertising etc and etc ok
In insurance or other financial product selling the target is of sales same in pharma sales revenue generation , in insurance you make agents in pharma you contact distributors ok
in both the manners you are generating sles of your product that gives revenue to your company .
So in FMCG you need to do marketing you need to make distributors , you need to introduce your product into market , you make people or targeted media aware of your product or services so in FMCG you are not selling you are marketing the product upto some extent in telecom also .
But its your misconception ...................................... regarding telecom , pharma and insurance many of my friends change their jobs from Finance to telecom .Ya its true FMCG is bit different because revenue generation idea is different their .
One thing i would like to say to Mr. Partha Sarthy being an Indian National it heart us to listen any thing wrong about our country so sir please mind your language from next time , donmt say anything wrong about anyone's country because it directly hurt our sentiments and love toward our country let me tell you One of my uncle hold a vey good position in reputed s/w company in US when any one ask him about his success he simply says it's all because of my country my nation indian who make me able to have this position today .
And asha for you " Kuch Bhi DIL PE MAT LE YAAR "
Regards
Shine
From India, Bhopal
Not right. Kindly stop assuming things that dont make much sense :-) Pls see if we can stop this here and discuss about the topic.
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
I think it is better to keep to the topic and forum members refrain from commenting on the rights or wrongs of other’s way of replying. Simhan
From United Kingdom
From United Kingdom
Read question carefully.
What is analogy of:
Telecom and FMCG
Pharma and Insurance
One is manufacturing and another is serivce provider both are clubbed in one basket is not correct.
it should be;
Telocom and Insurance
Pharma & FMCG....
I focused on subject and found this discripency but people as usual without using mind starts replying and arguing....
What's this ?
Some thing is wrong with question
Partho
From Saudi Arabia
What is analogy of:
Telecom and FMCG
Pharma and Insurance
One is manufacturing and another is serivce provider both are clubbed in one basket is not correct.
it should be;
Telocom and Insurance
Pharma & FMCG....
I focused on subject and found this discripency but people as usual without using mind starts replying and arguing....
What's this ?
Some thing is wrong with question
Partho
From Saudi Arabia
The question is not wrong, it is true that the FMCG and the telecom do not prefer sales people from insuarance background, dont know if the same applies to pharma also.
The sales approach of FMCG & telecom is different from insurance that might be the reason I can figure out.
FMCG & telecom depends on dealer-distribution network for sales while in insurance it is through hiring agents or direct selling or bancasurance channel
From India, Calcutta
The sales approach of FMCG & telecom is different from insurance that might be the reason I can figure out.
FMCG & telecom depends on dealer-distribution network for sales while in insurance it is through hiring agents or direct selling or bancasurance channel
From India, Calcutta
Hi Friends,
The Posts were encouraging … and I think every body was right in their assumptions.
I Truly Agree with ‘Shine’ and making ‘India Shining’ through his views regarding the Post by Mr. Sandeep .
But yes I would like to share with you regarding the diversities associated with ‘Western’ and ‘Eastern’ practices, since I felt to through some light in this regard.
I agree with Mr. Partha Sarathi for his statement (I don’t know how many CHR Friends will forgive me for that). But his view of Performance Being (Partha – its not recruitment dear) is entirely Reward strategy. Its really True. Why Because the Western People (Mostly Americans) have to really prove out their associations 24 x 7. Whether it be in an organization or be it in his own home. (Perhaps the reason for having high divorce rates). They know that they have to perform everywhere and that is what their motivation is. Hence they don’t mind to have a Contract System of employment and they always perform in this background. And also, they know that if they don’t perform they are out (in Both Home & Work). And that is why Many Management Schools Prosper in the West giving guidance to Management aspirators and giving chances to those who want to Horne their skills for making success. (But Alas – Very Less Management Thoughts Succeeds). (Theory Y)
But, at the same time in Japan (East), they have a bonding relation. Either with the Family or with the employer ( I am sorry Partha for this). Here for Japanese, An Employment means a Long Term Employment ( Not like West) and they enter here as a worker and as per their capability & Competency they grow up by sheer hard work. There is No Management Schools, but I must say – most management theories have originated from them (KANBAN, KAIZEN, JIT Concept etc. to name a few) and has been widely accepted and followed in West. They work with a commitment & Patriotic Sense since they have no fear of retrenchments, since capable people are always placed at the right positions through Internal Filtering. (Theory Z)
And Finally India (Mid between America & Japan) has a Lot of Similarities & also Dis-similarities of both the Practices. We have a both sides of the same coin – specifically we allow a Contract system, a Performance oriented culture and also on the other side we share a strong emotional, cultural & Family Bond.
My sense of raising this is that we cannot copy and paste what other cultures follow simply. We have a varied array of Industries working and they support various management philosophies. It might be a gain or a Looser, I can’t say. But yes our way is different.
Regards,
Jayesh Yohannan
The Posts were encouraging … and I think every body was right in their assumptions.
I Truly Agree with ‘Shine’ and making ‘India Shining’ through his views regarding the Post by Mr. Sandeep .
But yes I would like to share with you regarding the diversities associated with ‘Western’ and ‘Eastern’ practices, since I felt to through some light in this regard.
I agree with Mr. Partha Sarathi for his statement (I don’t know how many CHR Friends will forgive me for that). But his view of Performance Being (Partha – its not recruitment dear) is entirely Reward strategy. Its really True. Why Because the Western People (Mostly Americans) have to really prove out their associations 24 x 7. Whether it be in an organization or be it in his own home. (Perhaps the reason for having high divorce rates). They know that they have to perform everywhere and that is what their motivation is. Hence they don’t mind to have a Contract System of employment and they always perform in this background. And also, they know that if they don’t perform they are out (in Both Home & Work). And that is why Many Management Schools Prosper in the West giving guidance to Management aspirators and giving chances to those who want to Horne their skills for making success. (But Alas – Very Less Management Thoughts Succeeds). (Theory Y)
But, at the same time in Japan (East), they have a bonding relation. Either with the Family or with the employer ( I am sorry Partha for this). Here for Japanese, An Employment means a Long Term Employment ( Not like West) and they enter here as a worker and as per their capability & Competency they grow up by sheer hard work. There is No Management Schools, but I must say – most management theories have originated from them (KANBAN, KAIZEN, JIT Concept etc. to name a few) and has been widely accepted and followed in West. They work with a commitment & Patriotic Sense since they have no fear of retrenchments, since capable people are always placed at the right positions through Internal Filtering. (Theory Z)
And Finally India (Mid between America & Japan) has a Lot of Similarities & also Dis-similarities of both the Practices. We have a both sides of the same coin – specifically we allow a Contract system, a Performance oriented culture and also on the other side we share a strong emotional, cultural & Family Bond.
My sense of raising this is that we cannot copy and paste what other cultures follow simply. We have a varied array of Industries working and they support various management philosophies. It might be a gain or a Looser, I can’t say. But yes our way is different.
Regards,
Jayesh Yohannan
Oh its actully sad,that after being potental still there are some unhealthy HR Policies which makes no-sense.
Regarding Telecom,we understan that most of companies have no pocah with other Telecom Companies.Thats understandable..But coming from Insurance Sector and joing Telecom,isnt a problem at all.
Dont loose hope buddy,there are still some good HR's & HR policies companies have,so check out for 1,m sure you will not be disapointed.I beliv there may be still some companies who hire ones from Pharma & other Domains.These people fail to understand that a Sales person can sell anything if they are hiring right professional considering his last profile,HR Formalitiz n mportantly understandg caliber of person they are hiring
A sales person is sales-oriented person with full confidence & substance,No one can beat ull..Its just that some companies would loose some potential people coz of thr no-sense policies & non-elevnt HR's.Which is actlly sad.
But no woriz Keep up the faith buddy am sure you will get what you desrve..
Trust me there are lots of Sales Job in market & evn in the time of recessions,thesesales jobs are being paid highly..Can search on job-portals like naukri,monster,etc you would find the in bulk
Sales people should never be disapointed.Its the company who is loosing 1 not ull,there are lots of sales job in Market.If you not getting in 1 company coz of thr no-sense policy,dnt giveup try somewhere else.The calier of any sales professional is never limited.
Wish you lots of Luck & Good-Will.
From India, Mumbai
Regarding Telecom,we understan that most of companies have no pocah with other Telecom Companies.Thats understandable..But coming from Insurance Sector and joing Telecom,isnt a problem at all.
Dont loose hope buddy,there are still some good HR's & HR policies companies have,so check out for 1,m sure you will not be disapointed.I beliv there may be still some companies who hire ones from Pharma & other Domains.These people fail to understand that a Sales person can sell anything if they are hiring right professional considering his last profile,HR Formalitiz n mportantly understandg caliber of person they are hiring
A sales person is sales-oriented person with full confidence & substance,No one can beat ull..Its just that some companies would loose some potential people coz of thr no-sense policies & non-elevnt HR's.Which is actlly sad.
But no woriz Keep up the faith buddy am sure you will get what you desrve..
Trust me there are lots of Sales Job in market & evn in the time of recessions,thesesales jobs are being paid highly..Can search on job-portals like naukri,monster,etc you would find the in bulk
Sales people should never be disapointed.Its the company who is loosing 1 not ull,there are lots of sales job in Market.If you not getting in 1 company coz of thr no-sense policy,dnt giveup try somewhere else.The calier of any sales professional is never limited.
Wish you lots of Luck & Good-Will.
From India, Mumbai
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