Hi everyone,
Why there is such a great fuss! We address so many unknown personals as "Dear Sir" why not persons known to us can be addressed the same way. Add little courtesy when you talk,solves lot of unwanted friction in your work spot.
Regards,
Elizabeth Paul.
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
2Why there is such a great fuss! We address so many unknown personals as "Dear Sir" why not persons known to us can be addressed the same way. Add little courtesy when you talk,solves lot of unwanted friction in your work spot.
Regards,
Elizabeth Paul.
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
Dear Ms. Elizabeth
You haven't understood the scenario between SR. EXECUTIVE - HR and recently promoted CFO from SR. MANAGER - FINANCE.
This thread is not exactly about calling someone as SIR but its about the EGO that had created distance between TWO EMPLOYEES of same age where one employee is SENIOR by SENIORITY(NO. OF YEARS in the same organisation) and other is SENIOR by DESIGNATION.
Now you provide us input as how to solve this issue...
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
You haven't understood the scenario between SR. EXECUTIVE - HR and recently promoted CFO from SR. MANAGER - FINANCE.
This thread is not exactly about calling someone as SIR but its about the EGO that had created distance between TWO EMPLOYEES of same age where one employee is SENIOR by SENIORITY(NO. OF YEARS in the same organisation) and other is SENIOR by DESIGNATION.
Now you provide us input as how to solve this issue...
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
Hi Jayashree,
I have an interesting past to disclose relating to this topic. Being an Engineer, during 1980 I was on deputation to my parent company at Australia for six months. My boss was no other than Mr. KPK Chaitra who happens to be the son of the famous Poet of Karnataka namely Kuvempu. He had married an Australian lady and was an Australian citizen. The first day I met him I addressed him as Sir. He rebuked me and suggested that I should call him henceforth as Chai. The change could not come to me immediately and for few days I would err. He would give me a wild stare and be silent. Got used to it. In Australia all the inhabitants were addressed verbally and in written form too by their first name. It was necessary not to use the family name which comes later as a mark of respect. We have got used to Sir to address all our associates only when we under obligations. This becomes mandatory when you report to your boss, or when you want favor from someone. In the latter case we even go to extent of falling at his feet, garlanding them, bribe them and so on.
Now it is for the younger generation to take the initiative to change the scenario. No one need to be addressed as Sir/Madam/ or something extra special to please or make them smile. You are doing your job sincerely and you are paid for it. If you dont expect any favors from your boss and want to stand on your feet you can continue to call your associate by his name. His arrogance is of no importance to you and ignore the same. Even he is working for the organization and is paid for it. Gradually both of you will be accustomed to the new relationship, without any issues.
Sundar Kumar
From India, Bangalore
I have an interesting past to disclose relating to this topic. Being an Engineer, during 1980 I was on deputation to my parent company at Australia for six months. My boss was no other than Mr. KPK Chaitra who happens to be the son of the famous Poet of Karnataka namely Kuvempu. He had married an Australian lady and was an Australian citizen. The first day I met him I addressed him as Sir. He rebuked me and suggested that I should call him henceforth as Chai. The change could not come to me immediately and for few days I would err. He would give me a wild stare and be silent. Got used to it. In Australia all the inhabitants were addressed verbally and in written form too by their first name. It was necessary not to use the family name which comes later as a mark of respect. We have got used to Sir to address all our associates only when we under obligations. This becomes mandatory when you report to your boss, or when you want favor from someone. In the latter case we even go to extent of falling at his feet, garlanding them, bribe them and so on.
Now it is for the younger generation to take the initiative to change the scenario. No one need to be addressed as Sir/Madam/ or something extra special to please or make them smile. You are doing your job sincerely and you are paid for it. If you dont expect any favors from your boss and want to stand on your feet you can continue to call your associate by his name. His arrogance is of no importance to you and ignore the same. Even he is working for the organization and is paid for it. Gradually both of you will be accustomed to the new relationship, without any issues.
Sundar Kumar
From India, Bangalore
its not necessary to call all ur seniors Sir,,,, according to me we should call sir to whom v are directly reporting and other superiors we can call them by their first name or by Mr./Ms. and their first name.
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Dear Sundarkumar,
Thank you for the input. But I like to point out that Australia is a different country. Like in the West, they all have First names and Surnames. As I have mentioned in in precious post, even in the UK not everyone takes liberty in calling people of higher rank by their first (Christian) name. It is customary to call the by their surname with a prefix (Mr., Dr., Mrs,..). Usually the person concerned will give permission or say call me XXX. I do not have a first name; my initials are from my father's name. To avoid problems in UK, I have a nickname.
Aping the West is not always advisable. For example, kids from English families call adults by their first name. Would you like that to happen in India? Even in the UK, in 'Cultured' families kids used to address other adults as unle and aunties. Our child minder was addressed by every one as 'aunty Lewis'. Here, some boys and girls call their in laws by their first name, would that be acceptable in India?
Have a nice day.
Simhan
A retired academic in the UK
From United Kingdom
Thank you for the input. But I like to point out that Australia is a different country. Like in the West, they all have First names and Surnames. As I have mentioned in in precious post, even in the UK not everyone takes liberty in calling people of higher rank by their first (Christian) name. It is customary to call the by their surname with a prefix (Mr., Dr., Mrs,..). Usually the person concerned will give permission or say call me XXX. I do not have a first name; my initials are from my father's name. To avoid problems in UK, I have a nickname.
Aping the West is not always advisable. For example, kids from English families call adults by their first name. Would you like that to happen in India? Even in the UK, in 'Cultured' families kids used to address other adults as unle and aunties. Our child minder was addressed by every one as 'aunty Lewis'. Here, some boys and girls call their in laws by their first name, would that be acceptable in India?
Have a nice day.
Simhan
A retired academic in the UK
From United Kingdom
It depends on company to company culture. In some companies they are using only Mr. and surname. It is not important to say Sir. or Mr. but it is important to have repect for seniors by heart.
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Hr/Payroll System Consultant
From India, Delhi
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Hr/Payroll System Consultant
From India, Delhi
Dear Jayashree,
I see no harm in you calling a person who is officially your senior as 'Sir'.
You must do so. In fact I think you should go a step further and address some other colleagues in a similar manner, especially while speaking of official matters. It would make it easier for you to utter the word.
Good luck.
Colonel Gahlot
From India, Delhi
I see no harm in you calling a person who is officially your senior as 'Sir'.
You must do so. In fact I think you should go a step further and address some other colleagues in a similar manner, especially while speaking of official matters. It would make it easier for you to utter the word.
Good luck.
Colonel Gahlot
From India, Delhi
Hi Jayashreeg
Calling your colleagues by Sir or Mm definitely creates pleasant atmosphere around you, but if someone asks you to call him by Sir, never do that. One should learn to earn respect through his own behaviour towards others.
From India, Mumbai
Calling your colleagues by Sir or Mm definitely creates pleasant atmosphere around you, but if someone asks you to call him by Sir, never do that. One should learn to earn respect through his own behaviour towards others.
From India, Mumbai
Dear Mr.SHAIK ABDUL KHADIR,
Thank you for assuming!
You haven't understood the scenario between SR. EXECUTIVE - HR and recently promoted CFO from SR. MANAGER - FINANCE.
In case if the company announces a young CEO, do we have the real guts to call him by name, no matter we knew him several years.As a professional we are supposed to suppress our ego, and think "am I on the right direction to achieve my goal" and also enable smooth functioning of the organization.
I am a senior person working in an organization and I don't have any ego addressing my managers/CEO much younger to me as Sir,and it never hurts when they call me Mrs/Mam/by name.
With profound regards,
Elizabeth Paul.
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
Thank you for assuming!
You haven't understood the scenario between SR. EXECUTIVE - HR and recently promoted CFO from SR. MANAGER - FINANCE.
In case if the company announces a young CEO, do we have the real guts to call him by name, no matter we knew him several years.As a professional we are supposed to suppress our ego, and think "am I on the right direction to achieve my goal" and also enable smooth functioning of the organization.
I am a senior person working in an organization and I don't have any ego addressing my managers/CEO much younger to me as Sir,and it never hurts when they call me Mrs/Mam/by name.
With profound regards,
Elizabeth Paul.
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
I agree with all the answers. Calling Sir to any one will not reduce your self respect and also it will not change your position.
It depends on the company culture............. I once got warning (although it is on humor side) saying if you call me SIR you are fired.... the person informed this was the MD.
so just enjoy your job.
From India, Bangalore
It depends on the company culture............. I once got warning (although it is on humor side) saying if you call me SIR you are fired.... the person informed this was the MD.
so just enjoy your job.
From India, Bangalore
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