Dear Kesava Sir ,
Thanks for detail reply . If you got some time pls guide on points mentioned in my post also.
@ Hansaji ... Thanks pictorial points definitely help employees to understand difference between incident and Near miss . if you got some time pls guide on points mentioned in my post also
Thanks
Abhay
From India, Thana
18Thanks for detail reply . If you got some time pls guide on points mentioned in my post also.
@ Hansaji ... Thanks pictorial points definitely help employees to understand difference between incident and Near miss . if you got some time pls guide on points mentioned in my post also
Thanks
Abhay
From India, Thana
Dear Abhay,
I tried to address point no. 1 to 3 as we also faced the same thing.
For point no. 4 & 5, during our talks with employees, we always try to convince them that near miss are not to blame any one but its aim is to find systematic failures which if not rectified may result into injury.
Nobody is blamed for reporting or during the findings/root causes of near miss investigation, always we point out on what system failed/or system inadequate/or no system is there, which lead to human error or physical factor which lead to near miss.
Though it is part of safety culture again as rightly said by Kesava Sir, it will take time for people to understand and change.But mean while you have to keep your efforts going and understand what difficulty people faces if they report near misses or why are they not reporting near miss.
Don't give up your hopes. Things will change.
Regards,
Hansa Vyas
From India, Udaipur
I tried to address point no. 1 to 3 as we also faced the same thing.
For point no. 4 & 5, during our talks with employees, we always try to convince them that near miss are not to blame any one but its aim is to find systematic failures which if not rectified may result into injury.
Nobody is blamed for reporting or during the findings/root causes of near miss investigation, always we point out on what system failed/or system inadequate/or no system is there, which lead to human error or physical factor which lead to near miss.
Though it is part of safety culture again as rightly said by Kesava Sir, it will take time for people to understand and change.But mean while you have to keep your efforts going and understand what difficulty people faces if they report near misses or why are they not reporting near miss.
Don't give up your hopes. Things will change.
Regards,
Hansa Vyas
From India, Udaipur
Dear Friends,
Definition of industrial safety starts like this: Safety is an art and science devoted to …………and son on. You may know the rest.
Problem with safety people are:
1. Most safety people are safety qualified experts in the science part of safety. It means they know what is required to cure.
2. They may not be artists. It means they lack an understanding on how to approach an issue at hand- how to achieve results.
Permit me to give you an example here:
One of the famous doctors doing research for many years and of high standing; invented an effective medicine in tablet form for one of the most dreaded diseases of children. If somehow consumed it is a sure cure. However no one succeeded in making the children take it.
It became a great failure.
Here comes the real doctor. He obtained all the rights.
He coolly sugar coated the tablets. He used striking colors for the tablets. He gave it a fancy name for children to sing it.
No coercion needed any more. Children started enjoying it. Children consumed it any time it is offered to them. In time the disease disappeared.
Question is who is a real doctor ?
There is a similarity in safety administration and the above example.
I suggest the forum members to post their success stories. Let others learn from each. I am sure it will enrich at least the younger ones in the profession.
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
Definition of industrial safety starts like this: Safety is an art and science devoted to …………and son on. You may know the rest.
Problem with safety people are:
1. Most safety people are safety qualified experts in the science part of safety. It means they know what is required to cure.
2. They may not be artists. It means they lack an understanding on how to approach an issue at hand- how to achieve results.
Permit me to give you an example here:
One of the famous doctors doing research for many years and of high standing; invented an effective medicine in tablet form for one of the most dreaded diseases of children. If somehow consumed it is a sure cure. However no one succeeded in making the children take it.
It became a great failure.
Here comes the real doctor. He obtained all the rights.
He coolly sugar coated the tablets. He used striking colors for the tablets. He gave it a fancy name for children to sing it.
No coercion needed any more. Children started enjoying it. Children consumed it any time it is offered to them. In time the disease disappeared.
Question is who is a real doctor ?
There is a similarity in safety administration and the above example.
I suggest the forum members to post their success stories. Let others learn from each. I am sure it will enrich at least the younger ones in the profession.
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
Dear Kesava Sir ,
at my organization , my safety person is taking out works by applying same method mentioned by you , he is taking maint guy/concerned person to show unsafe location and asking such open ended queries/concern/questions and not only taking solutions from them but also implementing it by them . He is developing ownership concept among all of us.
Your suggestions in this forum is really motivating all of us . at our org. we started BBS .If time allows you then pls guide us on how to make critical behavior list , Pictorial explanation on terms Line of Fire , eyes on Path , eyes on task .
Herewith I am requesting our dynamic forum member Mr.Dipil also to suggest some guidelines.
Thanks
Abhay
From India, Thana
at my organization , my safety person is taking out works by applying same method mentioned by you , he is taking maint guy/concerned person to show unsafe location and asking such open ended queries/concern/questions and not only taking solutions from them but also implementing it by them . He is developing ownership concept among all of us.
Your suggestions in this forum is really motivating all of us . at our org. we started BBS .If time allows you then pls guide us on how to make critical behavior list , Pictorial explanation on terms Line of Fire , eyes on Path , eyes on task .
Herewith I am requesting our dynamic forum member Mr.Dipil also to suggest some guidelines.
Thanks
Abhay
From India, Thana
According to me you have to be more friendly with the workmen and ask them what could be the chances of accident and what type of incidents have occurred.
Keep on monitoring about plant activities during safety round.
and lastly don't wait for the reporting of near-miss, if its only ISO standards issue report fake near miss incidents. or the likely hood incidents narrated by the workmen.
From India, Thana
Keep on monitoring about plant activities during safety round.
and lastly don't wait for the reporting of near-miss, if its only ISO standards issue report fake near miss incidents. or the likely hood incidents narrated by the workmen.
From India, Thana
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