Dear Colonel Sir,
Firstly, thank u so much for sharing such a deeply touching msg. I feel honored to have such brave as well very human soldiers who r our real Heroes.
But it pains my heart to c u sharing such motivating & touchin experience, whn it is the job of us Civilians to be united n by doing tat, motivate our soldiers. But once again the Real Indians (our armed forces) have shown us the right path & are inspiring us to b secular.
Thanks again.
Hats off to you Sir and the Forces.
Regards,
Sanil Chopra
From India, Mumbai
Firstly, thank u so much for sharing such a deeply touching msg. I feel honored to have such brave as well very human soldiers who r our real Heroes.
But it pains my heart to c u sharing such motivating & touchin experience, whn it is the job of us Civilians to be united n by doing tat, motivate our soldiers. But once again the Real Indians (our armed forces) have shown us the right path & are inspiring us to b secular.
Thanks again.
Hats off to you Sir and the Forces.
Regards,
Sanil Chopra
From India, Mumbai
Dear Colonel Jude Mayne Sir
I appreciate your article to some extend as I believe that no entity, group, person or individuals are responsible for spreading hatred in the society.
Mentioning 'The Thackerays are the epitome of hatred of fellow Indians' in your article posted, is totally misleading and encourages differences among the readers. If Thackerays fight is against those illegal immigrates, then have a quick look in the below mentioned facts-
1. So far 8 PMs (Nehru, LB Shastri, Indira Gandhi, Charan Singh, Rajiv
Gandhi, VP Singh, Chandra Shekhar, AB Vajpayee) have all come from UP.
WHY they could not develop it since independence?
2. HOW come so called 'communal' CM of Gujarat has been able to achieve
highest rate of growth in the country within a span of 5/6 years but not the
'secular' CMs of UP/Bihar who ruled for more than 15/16 years?
3. UP/Bihar are amongst richest states in terms of natural resources.
WHY then TATAs, BIRLAs or any other industrialists not keen on setting up
large industries there, even though labour is also cheaply available ?
4. Amar Singh of Samajwadi Party always accompanies top celebrities /
industrialists, prominent being Anil Ambani.
WHY he could not convince them to invest in his state? Only Anil Ambani is
investing something...but that's because he's promised free land.
5. Its a fact that maximum number of Babus (IAS/IPS etc officers, Yadav,
Gupta, Jha, Singh, Pandey, Sinha, Shrivastav, Sharma, Verma, ... ) come
from UP/Bihar.
WHY then these states still remain backward? Why they want to settle down
in Maharashtra? Because they and their Netas dont want to uplift their
backward states so as to rule indiscriminately.
6. Bihar CM Nitish Kumar claims that North Indians contributed to the
Development of Mumbai.
WHY they do not contribute for their own state's development?
Why are Patna / Dhanbad the shabbiest cities in the world? (Mumbai may
join them soon).
7. Thirty Six (36) North Indians were burnt alive in Assam.
WHERE were Sanjay Nirupam, Abu, Mulayam, Amar, Laloo, Maya, Jaya,
Amitabh, Shatrugun and Nitish Kumar at that time? So called son of soil of UP,
Bihar, MP States.
8. Bihar had maximum number of railway ministers.
WHY then their recruitment is done from Assam, Gujarat and Mumbai?
9. Its a fact that where there's money/opportunity, people from different
geo/demography rush-in to make fortunes. Mumbai is one such city.Gujratis,
Marwaris, South Indians, Bengalis, Punjabis, Sindhis flocked to Mumbai for
obvious reasons. Majority of these communities got into skilled,
professional, business areas and prospered, contributing to Mumbai's
success.
However, most of the North Indians resort to and take pride in doing
Unskilled/unlawfull cheap labour such as illegal hawking by occupying
every nook & corner of every footpath, station areas as
vegetable/fruit/sing-chana/bhel-pani puri vendors, or auto/taxi wallas
without licenses. They bribe local authorities and make life of common
people miserable due to congestions and rubbish. They are ruining the tax
payer's money. Of course not to mention about illegal slums. It is absurd
to say that they contributed to Mumbai's development. If anything, they are
retarding/deteriorating Mumbai.
CAN our great leaders dare say that Middle-east countries especially Dubai
got developed due to laborers from India?
10. Its not sons-of-soil v/s north-Indians.
Dear Colonel Jude Mayne Sir, Its not personal issue but expressing your views neglecting the facts is some what I didn't agree.
I would like to extended my sincere apology if the remarks made by me,would have hurt you in any manner.
From India, Mumbai
165I appreciate your article to some extend as I believe that no entity, group, person or individuals are responsible for spreading hatred in the society.
Mentioning 'The Thackerays are the epitome of hatred of fellow Indians' in your article posted, is totally misleading and encourages differences among the readers. If Thackerays fight is against those illegal immigrates, then have a quick look in the below mentioned facts-
1. So far 8 PMs (Nehru, LB Shastri, Indira Gandhi, Charan Singh, Rajiv
Gandhi, VP Singh, Chandra Shekhar, AB Vajpayee) have all come from UP.
WHY they could not develop it since independence?
2. HOW come so called 'communal' CM of Gujarat has been able to achieve
highest rate of growth in the country within a span of 5/6 years but not the
'secular' CMs of UP/Bihar who ruled for more than 15/16 years?
3. UP/Bihar are amongst richest states in terms of natural resources.
WHY then TATAs, BIRLAs or any other industrialists not keen on setting up
large industries there, even though labour is also cheaply available ?
4. Amar Singh of Samajwadi Party always accompanies top celebrities /
industrialists, prominent being Anil Ambani.
WHY he could not convince them to invest in his state? Only Anil Ambani is
investing something...but that's because he's promised free land.
5. Its a fact that maximum number of Babus (IAS/IPS etc officers, Yadav,
Gupta, Jha, Singh, Pandey, Sinha, Shrivastav, Sharma, Verma, ... ) come
from UP/Bihar.
WHY then these states still remain backward? Why they want to settle down
in Maharashtra? Because they and their Netas dont want to uplift their
backward states so as to rule indiscriminately.
6. Bihar CM Nitish Kumar claims that North Indians contributed to the
Development of Mumbai.
WHY they do not contribute for their own state's development?
Why are Patna / Dhanbad the shabbiest cities in the world? (Mumbai may
join them soon).
7. Thirty Six (36) North Indians were burnt alive in Assam.
WHERE were Sanjay Nirupam, Abu, Mulayam, Amar, Laloo, Maya, Jaya,
Amitabh, Shatrugun and Nitish Kumar at that time? So called son of soil of UP,
Bihar, MP States.
8. Bihar had maximum number of railway ministers.
WHY then their recruitment is done from Assam, Gujarat and Mumbai?
9. Its a fact that where there's money/opportunity, people from different
geo/demography rush-in to make fortunes. Mumbai is one such city.Gujratis,
Marwaris, South Indians, Bengalis, Punjabis, Sindhis flocked to Mumbai for
obvious reasons. Majority of these communities got into skilled,
professional, business areas and prospered, contributing to Mumbai's
success.
However, most of the North Indians resort to and take pride in doing
Unskilled/unlawfull cheap labour such as illegal hawking by occupying
every nook & corner of every footpath, station areas as
vegetable/fruit/sing-chana/bhel-pani puri vendors, or auto/taxi wallas
without licenses. They bribe local authorities and make life of common
people miserable due to congestions and rubbish. They are ruining the tax
payer's money. Of course not to mention about illegal slums. It is absurd
to say that they contributed to Mumbai's development. If anything, they are
retarding/deteriorating Mumbai.
CAN our great leaders dare say that Middle-east countries especially Dubai
got developed due to laborers from India?
10. Its not sons-of-soil v/s north-Indians.
Dear Colonel Jude Mayne Sir, Its not personal issue but expressing your views neglecting the facts is some what I didn't agree.
I would like to extended my sincere apology if the remarks made by me,would have hurt you in any manner.
From India, Mumbai
Dear Simmy,
If i did not accept disagreement to my opinions or thinking then I am no better then the persons being discussed. Your reply has only earned my respect and not my hurt. My aim was to start a debate on Nationalism and why do we not discuss as Indians but as Oriyas, bengalies, maharastrian, Biharies etc etc. I spent this weekend with my friends in the Army at Hyderabad and on 28 Nov the whole lot of officers had gone to the Mosque to celebrate Idd with a handful of Muslim soldiers. At the moment there are no Muslim officers posted in that Organisation but all the officers still went. In my Army unit we had officers from all faiths including Budishism-but when we were in the Mandir for Shivratri or Janmastimi I can bet you could never tell who is a Hindu or isn't.
The point I am trying to drive here is that lets not divide our people on religion, caste, language or creed- for our Countries sake. Finding fault as to what he or she has done or not done is easy-look up statistics on Google. I believe in "The Power of One" -let me do my little bit for the unity of the Country and fight these divisive forces.
Simmy i really thank you for again for arousing within me a feeling that I should do more then write in CiteHr.
Regards,
Colonel Jude Mayne
From India, Bangalore
If i did not accept disagreement to my opinions or thinking then I am no better then the persons being discussed. Your reply has only earned my respect and not my hurt. My aim was to start a debate on Nationalism and why do we not discuss as Indians but as Oriyas, bengalies, maharastrian, Biharies etc etc. I spent this weekend with my friends in the Army at Hyderabad and on 28 Nov the whole lot of officers had gone to the Mosque to celebrate Idd with a handful of Muslim soldiers. At the moment there are no Muslim officers posted in that Organisation but all the officers still went. In my Army unit we had officers from all faiths including Budishism-but when we were in the Mandir for Shivratri or Janmastimi I can bet you could never tell who is a Hindu or isn't.
The point I am trying to drive here is that lets not divide our people on religion, caste, language or creed- for our Countries sake. Finding fault as to what he or she has done or not done is easy-look up statistics on Google. I believe in "The Power of One" -let me do my little bit for the unity of the Country and fight these divisive forces.
Simmy i really thank you for again for arousing within me a feeling that I should do more then write in CiteHr.
Regards,
Colonel Jude Mayne
From India, Bangalore
Dear Colonel Jude Mayne
To the further continuation of your article, I need to share a similar incident, After the 26/11 episode, few youngsters gave roses to Traffic Polices, Constables. When asked for this good deed, one of the fellow gently said. We have gained much more respect for this people after the 26/11 incident.
And lastly, a true incident, during our leisure trip to castle in New Zealand, our train stop at station, when inquired for long time break, one of the old gentleman promptly said 'Sachin Tendulkar is completing his 17,000 runs in ODI, so we are desperately watching that moment to come' This is power of, that it could make train to halt.
From India, Mumbai
To the further continuation of your article, I need to share a similar incident, After the 26/11 episode, few youngsters gave roses to Traffic Polices, Constables. When asked for this good deed, one of the fellow gently said. We have gained much more respect for this people after the 26/11 incident.
And lastly, a true incident, during our leisure trip to castle in New Zealand, our train stop at station, when inquired for long time break, one of the old gentleman promptly said 'Sachin Tendulkar is completing his 17,000 runs in ODI, so we are desperately watching that moment to come' This is power of, that it could make train to halt.
From India, Mumbai
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