Dear All,
I really appreciate Mr Nathrao's replies. As suggested by him in his third post , I would like to cite the example of Jet Airways.When things were going bad it asked its cabin crew to take 10 days without pay leave in a month.Like this the financial burden was shared by both the management and employees.Indian Airlines also introduced Sabbatical leave of 2 yrs to 5 yrs for its employees ,without pay.The employees were assured that their inter-se seniority would be maintained.Many took advantage of this.Sacking outright some employees just because business is down is very unethical.
From India, New Delhi
104I really appreciate Mr Nathrao's replies. As suggested by him in his third post , I would like to cite the example of Jet Airways.When things were going bad it asked its cabin crew to take 10 days without pay leave in a month.Like this the financial burden was shared by both the management and employees.Indian Airlines also introduced Sabbatical leave of 2 yrs to 5 yrs for its employees ,without pay.The employees were assured that their inter-se seniority would be maintained.Many took advantage of this.Sacking outright some employees just because business is down is very unethical.
From India, New Delhi
Hi,
With all due respect to the opinion, we should not forget that Indian airlines is in debts & in very poor condition since always. Indian Airlines did not pay salary to many employees for months, but could not release them off the duty just due to government laws.... then there were strikes, then they come up with this settlement.
Jet airways has grown a lot around 5 years back, though they have never managed to provide proper service to their customers. Even though they fly internationally, they have not managed to sustain their position in the market.
Retention for the sake of retention restricts growth, & makes employees lazy.
Do you really believe the Indian airlines employees would have worked with full dedication during their midterm 2 year job with another employer?
We can see this 'inefficiency' in every government sector today, because of the very strong job security rules.
As said in previous post, there is nothing unethical to fire employees, if proper monitory remunerations are provided.
Best Regards,
Amod Bobade.
With all due respect to the opinion, we should not forget that Indian airlines is in debts & in very poor condition since always. Indian Airlines did not pay salary to many employees for months, but could not release them off the duty just due to government laws.... then there were strikes, then they come up with this settlement.
Jet airways has grown a lot around 5 years back, though they have never managed to provide proper service to their customers. Even though they fly internationally, they have not managed to sustain their position in the market.
Retention for the sake of retention restricts growth, & makes employees lazy.
Do you really believe the Indian airlines employees would have worked with full dedication during their midterm 2 year job with another employer?
We can see this 'inefficiency' in every government sector today, because of the very strong job security rules.
As said in previous post, there is nothing unethical to fire employees, if proper monitory remunerations are provided.
Best Regards,
Amod Bobade.
First i want to appreciate Mr. Nathrao for his submission on above thread. I also want to salute the way of win win situation you explained with pros and cons.
Now i would like to comment on thread initiated by Mr. Satish.
Satish ji when a company do business they do with proper planning and budgeting. Every business has good months as well lean order situation during every financial year. In average company do business in profit thats why they continue in the market for long run.
Every business has to face four situation that is initiation, Growth, Maturity, Decline as per management study. In maturity stage every industry or business has to work on innovation otherwise there are fear of obsolete and decline in business. Good company always grow because they continuously work on their weaknesses and get it settled before it result in loss.
I don't know how old your company is but question you asked really hearts everybody in the forum. How to fire people legally you can learn from ID act 1947 in retrenchment section but it would be appreciated by everyone if you asked how to continue our employee since company lost their goodwill of getting order from the wide market. HR profession is a noble profession where we really can serve the people and nation so you do as per the way shared by Mr. Nathrao in above thread.
From India, Chandigarh
Now i would like to comment on thread initiated by Mr. Satish.
Satish ji when a company do business they do with proper planning and budgeting. Every business has good months as well lean order situation during every financial year. In average company do business in profit thats why they continue in the market for long run.
Every business has to face four situation that is initiation, Growth, Maturity, Decline as per management study. In maturity stage every industry or business has to work on innovation otherwise there are fear of obsolete and decline in business. Good company always grow because they continuously work on their weaknesses and get it settled before it result in loss.
I don't know how old your company is but question you asked really hearts everybody in the forum. How to fire people legally you can learn from ID act 1947 in retrenchment section but it would be appreciated by everyone if you asked how to continue our employee since company lost their goodwill of getting order from the wide market. HR profession is a noble profession where we really can serve the people and nation so you do as per the way shared by Mr. Nathrao in above thread.
From India, Chandigarh
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