I couldn't agree more with you, dfc9fc9a5a2add958475eb16e.
Here's the message another time, in different words.
Tiny Post: Certifications Are a Scam - 3
From India, Ghaziabad
51Here's the message another time, in different words.
Tiny Post: Certifications Are a Scam - 3
From India, Ghaziabad
yes. certificatons is a big time business, orchestrated by academic institutions or those who profess to be possessing academic credentials to build up their credibiility in the certifications market, certifying agencies which are again an ingeneous creation of the academic community, businesses, consultants and the poor victims : the target companies and individual professionals. An idea is mooted like in a criminal gang, heavy bombarding using press, high decibel seminars, followers and admirers create by the same community, build up hype through media, make certification mandatory through policy intervention through any means possible (?), limit validity of certification to one year or less to ensure repeat business from a captive market, expand using approved franchisees (another business), .... once this fades come up with new versions of the certifications wher the old one loses validity and charm in the market.... This is like product innovations to sync with product / business life cycle theorey and te game goes on.
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
I am impressed, dfc9fc9a5a2add958475eb16e. You have put the whole catalog on the table. That's precisely it. If there was an award for posts, I'd give it to this post of yours.
You are so right about everything you said.
They target groups/companies. You know why? Because it is easier to fool a group of people than to fool them individually because as individuals, we can think, we can think of our own good and make decisions; groups can't think. Collectives are ineffective.
Tiny Post: The Methodology Republic - 2
Tiny Post: We Don't Think As Often As We Think We Do
And you are so right about their setting a validity for the certification so as to get repeat business. What a crude form of business! It is so apparent from this that certifications are worthless instruments of a con.
To those that think that a certification provides some kind of assurance about skill, I beg to differ. I'd be very wary of being operated by a surgeon just because he had some certification.
From India, Ghaziabad
You are so right about everything you said.
They target groups/companies. You know why? Because it is easier to fool a group of people than to fool them individually because as individuals, we can think, we can think of our own good and make decisions; groups can't think. Collectives are ineffective.
Tiny Post: The Methodology Republic - 2
Tiny Post: We Don't Think As Often As We Think We Do
And you are so right about their setting a validity for the certification so as to get repeat business. What a crude form of business! It is so apparent from this that certifications are worthless instruments of a con.
To those that think that a certification provides some kind of assurance about skill, I beg to differ. I'd be very wary of being operated by a surgeon just because he had some certification.
From India, Ghaziabad
They have tried to turn the education system into an assembly line. I wish innocent people whom they target could see through them and see all this.
From India, Ghaziabad
From India, Ghaziabad
That is also why I get very angry when I see the kinds of posts made here like this one () and many others like it.
Someone who has to conduct a training program asks everyone for some material. What a sham! Training is supposed to be done by someone who is good at the subject and they can teach it well.
What is the use of being trained by someone if that person himself got the material from you?
That's called an assembly line. Someone makes the PPT, someone makes another hand-outs document, someone else stands in the classroom and vomits out whatever he memorized, and someone else in the training department checks/ticks a box that they have delivered training to their employees on such and such a topic. Assembly line. That's not training. That's a sad, bloody joke that's happening everywhere.
That is why companies have lost faith in training. Because they themselves treat it like a joke. They have never really had a training at their premises even when they think they have.
Real training is done by someone who is good at a subject, and then you give them complete freedom to do it.
From India, Ghaziabad
Someone who has to conduct a training program asks everyone for some material. What a sham! Training is supposed to be done by someone who is good at the subject and they can teach it well.
What is the use of being trained by someone if that person himself got the material from you?
That's called an assembly line. Someone makes the PPT, someone makes another hand-outs document, someone else stands in the classroom and vomits out whatever he memorized, and someone else in the training department checks/ticks a box that they have delivered training to their employees on such and such a topic. Assembly line. That's not training. That's a sad, bloody joke that's happening everywhere.
That is why companies have lost faith in training. Because they themselves treat it like a joke. They have never really had a training at their premises even when they think they have.
Real training is done by someone who is good at a subject, and then you give them complete freedom to do it.
From India, Ghaziabad
The thread I was referring to in my previous post was this one: https://www.citehr.com/49358-voice-accent.html
That's just one sample of the many threads we see on this board. And such a behaviour is encouraged.
Now, I ignore these posts.
When I had joined this forum, I used to reply back urging the original poster to think for themselves.
From India, Ghaziabad
That's just one sample of the many threads we see on this board. And such a behaviour is encouraged.
Now, I ignore these posts.
When I had joined this forum, I used to reply back urging the original poster to think for themselves.
From India, Ghaziabad
Ok Sathyaish.
Firstly I do not know how many people have bothered to read the content on your website for this Scam -2 post.
I did. And I found no content. Just Lorem Ipsum.
Without valid content to read, people like me tend to assume that you are just abusing your privileges of posting links to create more hits for your website.
Let's give you the benefit of doubt and assume that when you posted, you had content and then something went wrong on the website. Happens.
As I see from your website, your offer training programs on various topics.
So what is the difference between you and those who offer certifications especially those who offer certifications that have become industry standards? Take for example - Film Institute in Pune, National school of drama in the field of acting. Take for example, microsoft certification trainings.
What is the difference between what these people offer and your trainings?
These other people who offer certifications are holding themselves accountable to a certain level of standard that has been accepted as norms in the industry. How can anyone assess whether someone's trainings is upto a level of standard in the absence of "reputed" and "established" certifications like PRISM, PMI, etc.
Besides, I do not see much of an argument in the case presented in your post. As I see each of your three posts, it lacks any worthwhile content.
I have attached screen shots of the 3 posts on your website that you have referred to in this thread. They are good short paragraphs in 2 to 3 lines. However, they are nothing more than rants without any valid debate. Sensational but baseless.
From India, Pune
Firstly I do not know how many people have bothered to read the content on your website for this Scam -2 post.
I did. And I found no content. Just Lorem Ipsum.
Without valid content to read, people like me tend to assume that you are just abusing your privileges of posting links to create more hits for your website.
Let's give you the benefit of doubt and assume that when you posted, you had content and then something went wrong on the website. Happens.
As I see from your website, your offer training programs on various topics.
So what is the difference between you and those who offer certifications especially those who offer certifications that have become industry standards? Take for example - Film Institute in Pune, National school of drama in the field of acting. Take for example, microsoft certification trainings.
What is the difference between what these people offer and your trainings?
These other people who offer certifications are holding themselves accountable to a certain level of standard that has been accepted as norms in the industry. How can anyone assess whether someone's trainings is upto a level of standard in the absence of "reputed" and "established" certifications like PRISM, PMI, etc.
Besides, I do not see much of an argument in the case presented in your post. As I see each of your three posts, it lacks any worthwhile content.
I have attached screen shots of the 3 posts on your website that you have referred to in this thread. They are good short paragraphs in 2 to 3 lines. However, they are nothing more than rants without any valid debate. Sensational but baseless.
From India, Pune
Today training has reduced to reading from a ppt made by some one picked up from internet. Trainer believes that training is a drama enacted in a an a/c environ to entertain a group of uncomfortable disinterested and trublesome elements in the department sponsored by their bosses because he just doesnt want them there for sometime, during that time he can get his agenda through. The trainer arrives clothed in formal suits behaves like a clown, tries to appease the audience by saying whatever he says is right to get a good rating at the end of the program. If u havent made them laugh you are not a good trainer. who cares about the output and outcome if the trainees had some entertainment, th e organisation is happy that they have something put in their monthly news letter, their intranet and u tube, report to shareholders on actions taken on employee care ...... a well orchestrated drama at the cost of shareholders
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
Dear Satyaish, I wonder whether companies are asking you if you are certified before they engage you!!
From United Kingdom
From United Kingdom
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