Dear Seniors,
Please spare ten mins to read this and enlighten me in this case..
This is a pricking question/concern for all those who are from business background. I mean - people who worked for family business previously or started their career with family business for few years and then want to move into corporate world.
There's a case here:
what if the candidate [he completed his MBA and his internship/project with a famous leading Indian newspaper] and supported/worked for his family business for 4.5 years in his family business which is a small publication firm that publishes books which are religious and also some travel guides both in Telugu and English. He provided editorial assistance. The firm is owned by his father's brother. It is a licensed firm but not a registered company.
Later worked for two corporates, one is top market research company and the other is a leading British media house. He has a corporate experience of 4.5 years. So, his total experience is up to 10 years. All through his career he has been in the same industry...
He is aspiring to move into big corporates. Big companies usually verify each and every detail of a candidate's experience. How will they handle background verification of the candidate's family business profile? Of course, he has an experience certificate provided by the proprietor [his uncle]. Will this suffice?
Please pardon me if the query is lengthy...but I need your advice...it's urgent...One of the big IT firms is taking his interview now....
Thank you in advance,
Rishi...
From United States, Seattle
2Please spare ten mins to read this and enlighten me in this case..
This is a pricking question/concern for all those who are from business background. I mean - people who worked for family business previously or started their career with family business for few years and then want to move into corporate world.
There's a case here:
what if the candidate [he completed his MBA and his internship/project with a famous leading Indian newspaper] and supported/worked for his family business for 4.5 years in his family business which is a small publication firm that publishes books which are religious and also some travel guides both in Telugu and English. He provided editorial assistance. The firm is owned by his father's brother. It is a licensed firm but not a registered company.
Later worked for two corporates, one is top market research company and the other is a leading British media house. He has a corporate experience of 4.5 years. So, his total experience is up to 10 years. All through his career he has been in the same industry...
He is aspiring to move into big corporates. Big companies usually verify each and every detail of a candidate's experience. How will they handle background verification of the candidate's family business profile? Of course, he has an experience certificate provided by the proprietor [his uncle]. Will this suffice?
Please pardon me if the query is lengthy...but I need your advice...it's urgent...One of the big IT firms is taking his interview now....
Thank you in advance,
Rishi...
From United States, Seattle
Dear Rishi
There is no harm in working in the family business and having a certificate. If the company goes for back ground verification, then also there will not be any negative remarks in the same family business organisation. Hence he need not to worry about the BG Verification. Is he going to do the same nature of work which he has done in his earlier concern. If it is so, then he need not to wory at all.
From India, Kumbakonam
There is no harm in working in the family business and having a certificate. If the company goes for back ground verification, then also there will not be any negative remarks in the same family business organisation. Hence he need not to worry about the BG Verification. Is he going to do the same nature of work which he has done in his earlier concern. If it is so, then he need not to wory at all.
From India, Kumbakonam
Hi Rishi,
I don't think so it should be a problem. The nature of work remains the same, the experience will only add on. So as long as his experience in family business has added value to his skills, there really isn't a problem. If he's a great candidate to have, companies will not want to lose him too.
Hope he gets the job soon
Cheers
From India, Bangalore
I don't think so it should be a problem. The nature of work remains the same, the experience will only add on. So as long as his experience in family business has added value to his skills, there really isn't a problem. If he's a great candidate to have, companies will not want to lose him too.
Hope he gets the job soon
Cheers
From India, Bangalore
Hello Rishi,
Further to what S. Bhaskar rightly pointed-out, frankly, I don't see what the issue/problem is here.
As far as the new employers are concerned, this person worked in a Family Concern for sometime & has the relevant & verifiable Docs to prove his exp there. That's all I guess. It's just a coincidence that the owner of that concern happens to be his uncle. In fact, this person may not even raise the flag in any interview that it was his uncle's concern--let him focus on the Concern's name...that's all.
Hope you get the point.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Further to what S. Bhaskar rightly pointed-out, frankly, I don't see what the issue/problem is here.
As far as the new employers are concerned, this person worked in a Family Concern for sometime & has the relevant & verifiable Docs to prove his exp there. That's all I guess. It's just a coincidence that the owner of that concern happens to be his uncle. In fact, this person may not even raise the flag in any interview that it was his uncle's concern--let him focus on the Concern's name...that's all.
Hope you get the point.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Dear Rishi,
There will be no problem in the case of background verification unless the information is not provided correctly.
But the profile what the person is going to manage really matters. If the IT company is selecting him then it will be based on his experience of his 9 or 10 yrs of experience in the same field. He has to have the skills required for a 10 yrs exp person. The company will have a high hopes on him. If he delivers perfectly then he will be successful.
From India, Mumbai
There will be no problem in the case of background verification unless the information is not provided correctly.
But the profile what the person is going to manage really matters. If the IT company is selecting him then it will be based on his experience of his 9 or 10 yrs of experience in the same field. He has to have the skills required for a 10 yrs exp person. The company will have a high hopes on him. If he delivers perfectly then he will be successful.
From India, Mumbai
Dear Rishi,
Are you giving any false information to the new employer? Are you cheating in any ways to the new employer?
If your answer is no... to both the questions... then i suppose you need not worry about anything.. Do not view back ground check with some fear.. Its just a formality if you are not a criminal.. They will only check the details which is given and declared by "YOU" is right or wrong and that too which will be brought to your knowledge...
So, I think this is not at all an issue that you need to worry about.. Are you somehow worried that your uncle would give false information to the verifiers or something..?? If you donot have this doubt, you need not worry at all...
Regards,
Bharghavi
From India, Bangalore
Are you giving any false information to the new employer? Are you cheating in any ways to the new employer?
If your answer is no... to both the questions... then i suppose you need not worry about anything.. Do not view back ground check with some fear.. Its just a formality if you are not a criminal.. They will only check the details which is given and declared by "YOU" is right or wrong and that too which will be brought to your knowledge...
So, I think this is not at all an issue that you need to worry about.. Are you somehow worried that your uncle would give false information to the verifiers or something..?? If you donot have this doubt, you need not worry at all...
Regards,
Bharghavi
From India, Bangalore
Wow...Amazing...Your advices/replies ripped off all the concerns at one go...thank you very much seniors
I thank each one of you...Boss2966, nehz, tajsateesh, k_shenbagarajan, sunita meena, bhargavi D, So nice of you for prompt replies and a soothing answer...
I was told by some of the people that candidates with family business background are looked down up on by corporates..and this created apprehension....it's my very cousin who is really worried about his career and is going to depression day by day...
you all are angels in disguise...thanks a ton...i will recommend our forum to millions of us who are sulking in silence...
have a great day all of you...
Rishi
From United States, Seattle
I thank each one of you...Boss2966, nehz, tajsateesh, k_shenbagarajan, sunita meena, bhargavi D, So nice of you for prompt replies and a soothing answer...
I was told by some of the people that candidates with family business background are looked down up on by corporates..and this created apprehension....it's my very cousin who is really worried about his career and is going to depression day by day...
you all are angels in disguise...thanks a ton...i will recommend our forum to millions of us who are sulking in silence...
have a great day all of you...
Rishi
From United States, Seattle
Hello Rishi,
Thank you for your appreciations. I guess that's what CiteHR is all about: sharing knowledge & experiences.
However, like I mentioned, pl tell your cousin NOT to mention the EXACT nature of the relationship between the family concern & him--for the simple reason that it's not necessary.
There's some truth in what you mentioned: 'family business background are looked down up on by corporates'. Though it can't be generalized, some corporates do have such mental blocks--for whatever reasons. While you can't change those mental blocks, you can DEFINITELY handle your response mechanism to pre-empt such a situation altogether.
Coming to think of it, I also have seen corporates giving 'more than normal' importance to those with family concern exp--since quite often such persons' experience is all-encompassing unlike those in a regular job.
Pl convey our 'All the Best' to your cousin.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Thank you for your appreciations. I guess that's what CiteHR is all about: sharing knowledge & experiences.
However, like I mentioned, pl tell your cousin NOT to mention the EXACT nature of the relationship between the family concern & him--for the simple reason that it's not necessary.
There's some truth in what you mentioned: 'family business background are looked down up on by corporates'. Though it can't be generalized, some corporates do have such mental blocks--for whatever reasons. While you can't change those mental blocks, you can DEFINITELY handle your response mechanism to pre-empt such a situation altogether.
Coming to think of it, I also have seen corporates giving 'more than normal' importance to those with family concern exp--since quite often such persons' experience is all-encompassing unlike those in a regular job.
Pl convey our 'All the Best' to your cousin.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Thank you Bhargavi for your appreciation. :-)
Hi Tajsateesh,
Thank you for reply and my best wishes from all of you to my brother. After having seen all the background revolution raving in India, he says he wants to be open about it [saying its his very family business] because all that he has in hand is experience certificate of working there. As you observe, in family concerns there's nothing like payslips and any other "corporate" standards followed though the business end of the day is for profits just like corporates do. The modus operandi is different.
As you already advised, he mentioned the firm's name and his role and duties as his CV is a professional CV. However, references from family is what he is worried about. The nature of his job requires him to be at desk or in-house, while the client interaction is done by his uncle [he is an ex-general manager of deccan chronicle who started his publishing business]. Also, the book printing and designing are outsourced. From what I know, the firm had the proprietor, my brother and some commission-based sales boys selling and distributing books. The firm has its office in residential setting. So, reference has to go from his uncle. That kept pricking him time and again. especially, considering how ruthless these corporate giants behave sometimes and also the horror stories he heard from his friends...
Cheers,
Rishi..
From United States, Seattle
Hi Tajsateesh,
Thank you for reply and my best wishes from all of you to my brother. After having seen all the background revolution raving in India, he says he wants to be open about it [saying its his very family business] because all that he has in hand is experience certificate of working there. As you observe, in family concerns there's nothing like payslips and any other "corporate" standards followed though the business end of the day is for profits just like corporates do. The modus operandi is different.
As you already advised, he mentioned the firm's name and his role and duties as his CV is a professional CV. However, references from family is what he is worried about. The nature of his job requires him to be at desk or in-house, while the client interaction is done by his uncle [he is an ex-general manager of deccan chronicle who started his publishing business]. Also, the book printing and designing are outsourced. From what I know, the firm had the proprietor, my brother and some commission-based sales boys selling and distributing books. The firm has its office in residential setting. So, reference has to go from his uncle. That kept pricking him time and again. especially, considering how ruthless these corporate giants behave sometimes and also the horror stories he heard from his friends...
Cheers,
Rishi..
From United States, Seattle
Hello Rishi,
I think you got my point a bit out-of-context.
Any situation of being 'open' INCLUDES the fact of 'necessity' also. I didn't mean that your brother has to 'hide' the fact about the family concern. All I meant was that it 'need not' be the focus FROM HIS SIDE. If & when that topic/issue comes, he can then explain it.
There's a saying: Never LIE, but if speaking the truth can put you into trouble, use your intelligence HE gave you--by speaking the truth 'to the extent necessary' AND without lying. A typical example of this [have heard it among advocates] is: what I say is completely true, but not the complete truth.
Hope you get the point.
There's one thing that seems worth pondering--you mentioned '.....So, reference has to go from his uncle. That kept pricking him time and again'. Is he worried that his uncle WON'T give a good report in the BC? If yes, then that's a different ballgame.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
I think you got my point a bit out-of-context.
Any situation of being 'open' INCLUDES the fact of 'necessity' also. I didn't mean that your brother has to 'hide' the fact about the family concern. All I meant was that it 'need not' be the focus FROM HIS SIDE. If & when that topic/issue comes, he can then explain it.
There's a saying: Never LIE, but if speaking the truth can put you into trouble, use your intelligence HE gave you--by speaking the truth 'to the extent necessary' AND without lying. A typical example of this [have heard it among advocates] is: what I say is completely true, but not the complete truth.
Hope you get the point.
There's one thing that seems worth pondering--you mentioned '.....So, reference has to go from his uncle. That kept pricking him time and again'. Is he worried that his uncle WON'T give a good report in the BC? If yes, then that's a different ballgame.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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