Respected Seniors,
My friend was working with a telecom company. After serving 1.5 years he left the company. His FFS was done smoothly. The issue is he is still having company's laptop as no one inquired about the same.Its been over a year now. Also he is in need of his PF. Please suggest what should he do.
From India
My friend was working with a telecom company. After serving 1.5 years he left the company. His FFS was done smoothly. The issue is he is still having company's laptop as no one inquired about the same.Its been over a year now. Also he is in need of his PF. Please suggest what should he do.
From India
My friend,
Ofcourse, ask him to return the laptop. Also have a process called "Demobilization/Clerance Form" introduced in the company to avoid such lapses, wherein the employee has to personnally visit all relevant department to handover/clarify any pending matter/items.
Ukmitra
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
296Ofcourse, ask him to return the laptop. Also have a process called "Demobilization/Clerance Form" introduced in the company to avoid such lapses, wherein the employee has to personnally visit all relevant department to handover/clarify any pending matter/items.
Ukmitra
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
Dear Ms. Shobhana Jha,
Why hasn't the employee took a step forward to return company's belongings? Just because of his smooth exit he thought to return only when he was entreated to?
This stands a challenge now to the HR of that Company and yourself. Eventhough, you plan to return the laptop, what would you expect -- The employer to have it accepted after using it for an year?
Nothing comes in his way to PF, he may go to the employer and make inquiries to PF as usual (No employer has the right to stop PF), rather check with the concerned HR if anything is impending to return. If not I suggest him to say nothing.
There is a reason for me to say so -- He will be judged on various levels, they will imbue a negative mark, enduring his background verification process with different companies, this employer may do away with this point.
Please ask him to be cautious with respect to these meticulous things. They are SMALL in observation but becomes BIG when springs back.
From India, Visakhapatnam
Why hasn't the employee took a step forward to return company's belongings? Just because of his smooth exit he thought to return only when he was entreated to?
This stands a challenge now to the HR of that Company and yourself. Eventhough, you plan to return the laptop, what would you expect -- The employer to have it accepted after using it for an year?
Nothing comes in his way to PF, he may go to the employer and make inquiries to PF as usual (No employer has the right to stop PF), rather check with the concerned HR if anything is impending to return. If not I suggest him to say nothing.
There is a reason for me to say so -- He will be judged on various levels, they will imbue a negative mark, enduring his background verification process with different companies, this employer may do away with this point.
Please ask him to be cautious with respect to these meticulous things. They are SMALL in observation but becomes BIG when springs back.
From India, Visakhapatnam
@Sharmila,
I beg to differ. Your suggestion of not returning or mentioning about the laptop to the ex employer, would amount to treachery. Someday this will be releaved and it will have an impact on the employee. This world is very small and you don't know where the shark of evil will pound on you in what form.
A mistake is a mistake, and admitting it, you don't degrade yourself but rather "confess your misdeeds". It does not matter what the company will think. Its matter of trust and the employee should return which is but the property of the company.
@Shobana Jha
Ask you friend to return the laptop and also make the request to collect the PF. Kaynat will not fall on him if he is true and just, but kaynat will be with him. Cheers.
Regards
Ukmitra
Note:
Correction in my past message: I though
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
I beg to differ. Your suggestion of not returning or mentioning about the laptop to the ex employer, would amount to treachery. Someday this will be releaved and it will have an impact on the employee. This world is very small and you don't know where the shark of evil will pound on you in what form.
A mistake is a mistake, and admitting it, you don't degrade yourself but rather "confess your misdeeds". It does not matter what the company will think. Its matter of trust and the employee should return which is but the property of the company.
@Shobana Jha
Ask you friend to return the laptop and also make the request to collect the PF. Kaynat will not fall on him if he is true and just, but kaynat will be with him. Cheers.
Regards
Ukmitra
Note:
Correction in my past message: I though
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
It is not so strange that the company has given clearance without a thorough check. have read this blog long back and observed that many companies are really not serious about exit. Some places, business will not even disclose HR about employee leaving in advance and this will be a surprise to HR on the last working day.
Coming to the original issue, here is my recommendations
1. Prepare an appeal with excuse not on not returning the laptop. May be you visit the firm, handover it and get the receipt.
2. For PF, you do not require any further assistance from previous employer (if you wanted to transfer to new company) if previous employer had already instructed to delete your name from PF (Form 10). Follow this citehr link to see another interesting discussion on this
From India, Bangalore
Coming to the original issue, here is my recommendations
1. Prepare an appeal with excuse not on not returning the laptop. May be you visit the firm, handover it and get the receipt.
2. For PF, you do not require any further assistance from previous employer (if you wanted to transfer to new company) if previous employer had already instructed to delete your name from PF (Form 10). Follow this citehr link to see another interesting discussion on this
From India, Bangalore
Hello Shobhana Jha,
Ukmitra is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
I am also surprised at the ethics of your friend--just because HR doesn't ask for the laptop, he conveniently forgets it [or was it willfully?]? GREAT !!!
What stopped him from reminding the HR that he still has the laptop & offer to return it? Wouldn't that have been MORE appropriate?
There's a Quote by Mark Twain: "Everyone takes good care of the Big things; it's only in how you take care of the Small things that your true nature comes-out". Guess it doesn't any elaboration.
Like Consultme suggested, ask your friend to prepare a good story for the lapse & return it & take a receipt. Even though making-up such a story isn't really right, it at least is to correct a mistake.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Ukmitra is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
I am also surprised at the ethics of your friend--just because HR doesn't ask for the laptop, he conveniently forgets it [or was it willfully?]? GREAT !!!
What stopped him from reminding the HR that he still has the laptop & offer to return it? Wouldn't that have been MORE appropriate?
There's a Quote by Mark Twain: "Everyone takes good care of the Big things; it's only in how you take care of the Small things that your true nature comes-out". Guess it doesn't any elaboration.
Like Consultme suggested, ask your friend to prepare a good story for the lapse & return it & take a receipt. Even though making-up such a story isn't really right, it at least is to correct a mistake.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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