Dear All,
The news about retrenchment of 800 staff in Jet Airways came as a shock. More depressing :( is the way the whole issue was handled.... no notice, no reason. Just separation.
What kind of management is this? More specifically, what kind of human resource management is this?
Please comment...
Regards,
ash.pgdm
From India, Hyderabad
2The news about retrenchment of 800 staff in Jet Airways came as a shock. More depressing :( is the way the whole issue was handled.... no notice, no reason. Just separation.
What kind of management is this? More specifically, what kind of human resource management is this?
Please comment...
Regards,
ash.pgdm
From India, Hyderabad
I guess its better to investigate the issue first and then make comments on the same. We know what media has reported. Nothing more....If they say no notice was given...we believe it. Notice during probation may go as short as 24 hrs. So, how can one say that no notice was given? Reason is pretty clear. The recruitment was done with the view of a possible expansion. Now that it is delayed, the company doesn't really have to carry the excess staff which would in turn be a problem for the management and HR later and above all, it would be doing harm to the employees who would not be having any career gains. The act is justified. It’s just that the news is blown out of proportion, and media has played a catalyst in the whole issue. Mass exodus happens in every industry, the phenomenon is not new. So y raise fingers now?
This is my view. No offences to anyone.
Regards,
Arun
From India, Bangalore
This is my view. No offences to anyone.
Regards,
Arun
From India, Bangalore
I agree Arun to some extent but HRM is nt suppod to be blamed fr that....HR deptt is seriously a quality dustbin I must say....fr evrythn HR deptt z accountable...why???? ws the hr deptt of the co. the sole decision maker for the layoff????
From India, Delhi
From India, Delhi
Well since I am an ex-Jet employee I feel that this entire issue was blown out of proportion. I am aware of the contents of the joining & appointment letter of the organisation. The organisation had recruited people in large scale for its expansion in International sectors however due to the turbulent economic scenario worldwide the expansion plan was shelved/postponed so obviously the excess manpower was draining the limited cash inflow, most of the employees that were given the pink slip were on probation which means that they could be shown the doors at any time, the methodology may not have been appropriate or apt but media termed it as also unethical...the political parties also used the entire fiasco to their own advantage & created a media frenzy.. we generally do not bother to set our own house in order & prefer to poke at our neighbour's affair. we all become moral judges without probing the real issues at stake. The people who suddenly decided to hold the baton of the retrenched staff were the same people who had earlier crticized the airline staffs behaviour & decreasing moral standards..so why did they decide on a volte-face now....this is seriously a case of delusionary double-standards..should we actually believe these human -chameleons?? are they really bothered about the masses or their political propagandas???
With my past working experience in the organisation I can just say that I was looked after well, kept in best of the hotels during training period, given training at par with international standards, given ample exposure to corporate culture & cross-cultural diversities & my parting was also amicable, I have grown with that brand & am marching ahead in my professional life due to my learnings & experiences acquired in Jet Airways...
Despite the current issues I still believe it was, it is & will always be the best employer in the aviation industry....I enjoyed my "JOY OF FLYING"
immensely.
cheers!!!!!
From India, Cuttack
With my past working experience in the organisation I can just say that I was looked after well, kept in best of the hotels during training period, given training at par with international standards, given ample exposure to corporate culture & cross-cultural diversities & my parting was also amicable, I have grown with that brand & am marching ahead in my professional life due to my learnings & experiences acquired in Jet Airways...
Despite the current issues I still believe it was, it is & will always be the best employer in the aviation industry....I enjoyed my "JOY OF FLYING"
immensely.
cheers!!!!!
From India, Cuttack
I agree with what has been mentioned by ex-jetties. Its just another opportunity for political parties to encash, and people who has been sacked (all sympathy with them) has to be mature, look at the other org in other countries where huge employees has been and the situation has been worsen than what it is here. but we didn't saw any strike...the first thing we do is just trouble other people....sit on the road and strike...this is purely nonsense. Ask any of these 1900 people if they can work for a month or 2 without getting paid and helping their company, no one will. so why the business/company should bear the cost, business has full rights in conjunction with employee to decide on to give the pink slips....everyone will understand if you look it from business standpoint.
Cheers
Sid
Cheers
Sid
Ofcourse the politicians keep looking out for these kind of issues. And the MEDIA has as always blown the matter out of proportion.
But Kudos to Naresh Goyal. By rolling back the action, he has actually improved the dedication level of the staff.
I feel that there should an effective regulatory body which actually evaluates the expansion plans feasibility on basis of various factors. The economic crisis has not developed in a single day. Why the ministry is not being proactive to handle these kind of critical sudden situations.
From India, Hyderabad
But Kudos to Naresh Goyal. By rolling back the action, he has actually improved the dedication level of the staff.
I feel that there should an effective regulatory body which actually evaluates the expansion plans feasibility on basis of various factors. The economic crisis has not developed in a single day. Why the ministry is not being proactive to handle these kind of critical sudden situations.
From India, Hyderabad
Hi All,
I am very much agreed with Siddarthtyagi. No employer will give anything to any employee without gaining anything. I know that this is very panic for the person who is out from the job after this type of situation. But, we are not suppose to think only about one side of the coin. Think about the employer’s side also, now market is totally crushed and it is very hard to maintain the company then how the company will bear that much loss. Ask to 1900 people, will they stand with the company and work without salary till then company will not stand back.
Employees are too selfish, when they get good / other opportunity then they resigned from the organization and rush to other one then they don’t bother about the current organization because they don’t want to bear any kind of loss in earnings. Then why employers bear loss and give them salaries without earning anything.
Think about this also and give comments
Regards
Pankaj Chandan
From India, New delhi
I am very much agreed with Siddarthtyagi. No employer will give anything to any employee without gaining anything. I know that this is very panic for the person who is out from the job after this type of situation. But, we are not suppose to think only about one side of the coin. Think about the employer’s side also, now market is totally crushed and it is very hard to maintain the company then how the company will bear that much loss. Ask to 1900 people, will they stand with the company and work without salary till then company will not stand back.
Employees are too selfish, when they get good / other opportunity then they resigned from the organization and rush to other one then they don’t bother about the current organization because they don’t want to bear any kind of loss in earnings. Then why employers bear loss and give them salaries without earning anything.
Think about this also and give comments
Regards
Pankaj Chandan
From India, New delhi
Following the news that Jet has now decided to take back 800 of its employees who were terminated 2 days back, and also calling it an act on grounds of morality not buckling under pressure. Well, it certainly makes one think how strong the management is.
How will a company (Listed in the stock exchange) survive when there is not business? When the expansion plans are shelved, what is the company going to do with the excess staff? The money that the company uses is the money of its investors, since it’s a listed company. How will the investor get a return on his investment when the management refuses to take a sensible decision (due to political and media pressure) of reducing staff which is a burden to the company.
The reduction of employee strength was carried out in a legitimate way, and is a matter strictly within the scope of management decision making. Why should the company then buckle under pressure and take a decision like this? Doesn't this make the HR a puppet? Terminate employees when management says, just to take them back when political parties put pressure?
Though all 800 employees of the company have been taken back into the company, the loser is not the management but the common man, be it by way of political interference or by way of investment into the company which buckles under pressure. Political party has only ensured a vote bank by putting pressure and getting the decision in their favour.
Your views will help in getting a better picture of this issue.
Regards,
Arun
From India, Bangalore
How will a company (Listed in the stock exchange) survive when there is not business? When the expansion plans are shelved, what is the company going to do with the excess staff? The money that the company uses is the money of its investors, since it’s a listed company. How will the investor get a return on his investment when the management refuses to take a sensible decision (due to political and media pressure) of reducing staff which is a burden to the company.
The reduction of employee strength was carried out in a legitimate way, and is a matter strictly within the scope of management decision making. Why should the company then buckle under pressure and take a decision like this? Doesn't this make the HR a puppet? Terminate employees when management says, just to take them back when political parties put pressure?
Though all 800 employees of the company have been taken back into the company, the loser is not the management but the common man, be it by way of political interference or by way of investment into the company which buckles under pressure. Political party has only ensured a vote bank by putting pressure and getting the decision in their favour.
Your views will help in getting a better picture of this issue.
Regards,
Arun
From India, Bangalore
Hi,
I agree what the earlier said, but from this forum we basically discussing here in view of HR, to hire and fire is the daily event of an industriliest, they always want to manupulate their ideas and views, it could be their internal matter but had HR palyed good role their or not, when they were getting profit, they never look behind, whenever they feel that the situation is going to be critical they suddenly decided to retreach the people, is this right management approach or not ???????????
Regards
From India, Delhi
I agree what the earlier said, but from this forum we basically discussing here in view of HR, to hire and fire is the daily event of an industriliest, they always want to manupulate their ideas and views, it could be their internal matter but had HR palyed good role their or not, when they were getting profit, they never look behind, whenever they feel that the situation is going to be critical they suddenly decided to retreach the people, is this right management approach or not ???????????
Regards
From India, Delhi
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