Dear All,
Is Electrical safety is specialized field ?
Herewith I want to ask seniors Is this true? then What should be scope of
S.O if he is not from electrical background. ( In simple words which
activities he need to Inspect ? )
Regards,
Abhay
From India, Mumbai
49Is Electrical safety is specialized field ?
Herewith I want to ask seniors Is this true? then What should be scope of
S.O if he is not from electrical background. ( In simple words which
activities he need to Inspect ? )
Regards,
Abhay
From India, Mumbai
Dear Abhay,
Scope of Safety is very vast, in this electrical Safety is the one of the important area. In electrical Safety one need to focus in the view of electrical hazards. If any person not in the field of electrical Safety may go through the requirement of Indian Electricity rule after preparing the checklist from this.
From India, Gurgaon
Scope of Safety is very vast, in this electrical Safety is the one of the important area. In electrical Safety one need to focus in the view of electrical hazards. If any person not in the field of electrical Safety may go through the requirement of Indian Electricity rule after preparing the checklist from this.
From India, Gurgaon
Dear Abhay,
Like all other hazards, carry out a thorough electrical risk assessment. You could rope in your company electrical engineer for helping you in this. A safety Officer cannot not be a specialist in all fields.
Hope this resolves your concern.
Thank You & best regards,
From Qatar, Doha
Like all other hazards, carry out a thorough electrical risk assessment. You could rope in your company electrical engineer for helping you in this. A safety Officer cannot not be a specialist in all fields.
Hope this resolves your concern.
Thank You & best regards,
From Qatar, Doha
@ clique_y & vinoddigwal ,
Wel-come to this forum . Thanx for explanation .
@Vinodji , If you hv such chklist according to IE Rules then it will be great help if you post it in this forum.
Regards,
Abhay
From India, Mumbai
Wel-come to this forum . Thanx for explanation .
@Vinodji , If you hv such chklist according to IE Rules then it will be great help if you post it in this forum.
Regards,
Abhay
From India, Mumbai
Dear Abhay,
I realize –there is something wrong some where.
Your safety Officer seems to be not proactive or otherwise this question might not be here- I presume.
If you feel not happy with my observation please leave it as such. Let us go to the issue at hand.
Everything is specialization and for that matter what is not? You mention any occupation, any activity that does not need specialization? Begging, sleeping, crossing the road, each and everything needs specialization. We have only to specialize in respective areas to satisfy our needs. We are specialized in the safe use of electricity for that matter every one of us who use electricity has some kind of specialization even though limited.
Electrical safety i s a different kind of specialization where only electricity is handled – but only electricity.
Of course; Safety is a specialization and industrial safety officer is a specialist who is supposed to manage electrical safety also.
Unlike Middle East in India an Industrial safety officer is having prescribed qualification. It is a statutory requirement. The prescribed qualification is of passing certain examination and few years or experience in certain cases. This examination requires certain period of learning with specified syllabus. In this syllabus Electrical safety including Electrical statutes is included such that in the industry where he is appointed as per statutory requirement he will have to manage electrical safety aspects also. He is not going to study electrical circuits. Based on safety practices he is to inspect, co-ordinate with the electrical department and manage the safety requirements.
Consider any safety officer - “in what area he is a safety specialist”? In electrical safety, if a safety officer claims that he is not a specialist, he is not a specialist in any area. Is he specialized in Machinery erection, Material handling, Chemicals, Confined spaces, working at height, Excavation, Pollution control, House keeping , machine guarding - go on mentioning every activity where a safety officer has to manage safety ? You take any topic he can escape saying that he is not specialist. It is meaning less. It seems to be shameful situation.
As safety officer of an industry one has to manage safety of anything and everything under the sun there. Where he lacks understanding he has to immediately project it to the management such that they may seek help from experts either from inside or outside. Co-ordinating with all and effectively managing safety - that is what is required of a safety officer.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
I realize –there is something wrong some where.
Your safety Officer seems to be not proactive or otherwise this question might not be here- I presume.
If you feel not happy with my observation please leave it as such. Let us go to the issue at hand.
Everything is specialization and for that matter what is not? You mention any occupation, any activity that does not need specialization? Begging, sleeping, crossing the road, each and everything needs specialization. We have only to specialize in respective areas to satisfy our needs. We are specialized in the safe use of electricity for that matter every one of us who use electricity has some kind of specialization even though limited.
Electrical safety i s a different kind of specialization where only electricity is handled – but only electricity.
Of course; Safety is a specialization and industrial safety officer is a specialist who is supposed to manage electrical safety also.
Unlike Middle East in India an Industrial safety officer is having prescribed qualification. It is a statutory requirement. The prescribed qualification is of passing certain examination and few years or experience in certain cases. This examination requires certain period of learning with specified syllabus. In this syllabus Electrical safety including Electrical statutes is included such that in the industry where he is appointed as per statutory requirement he will have to manage electrical safety aspects also. He is not going to study electrical circuits. Based on safety practices he is to inspect, co-ordinate with the electrical department and manage the safety requirements.
Consider any safety officer - “in what area he is a safety specialist”? In electrical safety, if a safety officer claims that he is not a specialist, he is not a specialist in any area. Is he specialized in Machinery erection, Material handling, Chemicals, Confined spaces, working at height, Excavation, Pollution control, House keeping , machine guarding - go on mentioning every activity where a safety officer has to manage safety ? You take any topic he can escape saying that he is not specialist. It is meaning less. It seems to be shameful situation.
As safety officer of an industry one has to manage safety of anything and everything under the sun there. Where he lacks understanding he has to immediately project it to the management such that they may seek help from experts either from inside or outside. Co-ordinating with all and effectively managing safety - that is what is required of a safety officer.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
Dear Mr. Kesava,
I fully agree with your last line
"Co-ordinating with all and effectively managing safety - that is what is required of a safety officer."
It does imply that a Safety man is a specialist in his chosen field & may be naive in various other aspects of the industry. Not everyone can be specialist in all the fields within the industry, even if the course curriculum includes that field.
Thank You & best regards,
From Qatar, Doha
I fully agree with your last line
"Co-ordinating with all and effectively managing safety - that is what is required of a safety officer."
It does imply that a Safety man is a specialist in his chosen field & may be naive in various other aspects of the industry. Not everyone can be specialist in all the fields within the industry, even if the course curriculum includes that field.
Thank You & best regards,
From Qatar, Doha
Dear Friends
I read with interest the discussions.I agree that a Safety Officer is "Jack of all trades & master of none".Safety officer is more concerned with fulfilling statutory requirements and not to design,commission or operate electrical equipment.He is required to guide the electrical engineers in line with safety procedures as laid down in safety system adopted by the organisation.While making protocols,safety officer involves electrical engineers who are responsible for execution of actual job.Yes it is true safety officer should be conversant with IE Rules and other rules/acts in vogue.
VVSN Prabhakar Rao
From India, Visakhapatnam
I read with interest the discussions.I agree that a Safety Officer is "Jack of all trades & master of none".Safety officer is more concerned with fulfilling statutory requirements and not to design,commission or operate electrical equipment.He is required to guide the electrical engineers in line with safety procedures as laid down in safety system adopted by the organisation.While making protocols,safety officer involves electrical engineers who are responsible for execution of actual job.Yes it is true safety officer should be conversant with IE Rules and other rules/acts in vogue.
VVSN Prabhakar Rao
From India, Visakhapatnam
Dear all,
A safety officer (Industrial) is a person who is supposed to have
- a sharp eye for identifying unsafe act / unsafe conditions,
- knowhow of standard safe operating / working procedures, or rather he is skilled by virtue of his learnings during his course for industrial safety and experianced to get such procedures developed in coordination with the concerned shop floor personel.
- knowledge of the statutes where rules are laid down. The SO is supposed to check the shopfloor conditions and activities and find out the deviations.
- The most important of all - it is the attitude towards making the work area safer day by day in a sustainable manner.
As a matter of fact the concept for having a seperate SHE deptt. in any organisation instead of merging it with other functions arose only due to the fact that the production people focus more on achieving the production targets in what so ever way, even neglecting very crucial safety aspects at time. Hence a need for external vigillance arose. For this matter, a SO may not certainly be a specialist of all the process, instead a basic concept of the process that helps him to find out the deviations from the should be standards and the statutes is enough.
Warm Regards.
Raman.
From India, Varanasi
A safety officer (Industrial) is a person who is supposed to have
- a sharp eye for identifying unsafe act / unsafe conditions,
- knowhow of standard safe operating / working procedures, or rather he is skilled by virtue of his learnings during his course for industrial safety and experianced to get such procedures developed in coordination with the concerned shop floor personel.
- knowledge of the statutes where rules are laid down. The SO is supposed to check the shopfloor conditions and activities and find out the deviations.
- The most important of all - it is the attitude towards making the work area safer day by day in a sustainable manner.
As a matter of fact the concept for having a seperate SHE deptt. in any organisation instead of merging it with other functions arose only due to the fact that the production people focus more on achieving the production targets in what so ever way, even neglecting very crucial safety aspects at time. Hence a need for external vigillance arose. For this matter, a SO may not certainly be a specialist of all the process, instead a basic concept of the process that helps him to find out the deviations from the should be standards and the statutes is enough.
Warm Regards.
Raman.
From India, Varanasi
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