Dear Friends,
Why not we focus to provide some quality people for educational organisations so that we can get more good students in future.
We should create database of good and qualified people for education industry.
Need other views.
Thanks
Venkatesan L
From India, Mumbai
Why not we focus to provide some quality people for educational organisations so that we can get more good students in future.
We should create database of good and qualified people for education industry.
Need other views.
Thanks
Venkatesan L
From India, Mumbai
Hi Venkat
Q. A. Yes ,you are absolutely right as the professors of today are not dedicated or committed as yesterday's Professors. therefore it has a multiplier effect as they teach the students who don't really fit well in the Industry especially in the longer run!.
Venkat, these institutions have to look out for getting better people and propably you & i would land up talking to a wall....i say these from my experience as most of the organizations especially educational ones are not seriously bothered about these issues and more focused on money aspects!..i know that ...do you know something am passionate about Creativity in Business & Innovation which most B-schools don't teach or focus on ...and most of the B-schools have not shown interests at all...the fact is that today's organizations/business pays you for your ability to originate or problem solving abilities which is not all studied or taught in B-schools!
Anyway its a worth a try!
Cheerio
Rajat
From India, Pune
101Q. A. Yes ,you are absolutely right as the professors of today are not dedicated or committed as yesterday's Professors. therefore it has a multiplier effect as they teach the students who don't really fit well in the Industry especially in the longer run!.
Venkat, these institutions have to look out for getting better people and propably you & i would land up talking to a wall....i say these from my experience as most of the organizations especially educational ones are not seriously bothered about these issues and more focused on money aspects!..i know that ...do you know something am passionate about Creativity in Business & Innovation which most B-schools don't teach or focus on ...and most of the B-schools have not shown interests at all...the fact is that today's organizations/business pays you for your ability to originate or problem solving abilities which is not all studied or taught in B-schools!
Anyway its a worth a try!
Cheerio
Rajat
From India, Pune
Dear Dr. Rajat,
I am very happy about reply on the subject. I beleive we need to start some where. I felt if the forum prepare the buleprint i am rady to implement in my college to test the result. :lol:
Please contribute to develope.
Regards
Venkatesan L
From India, Mumbai
I am very happy about reply on the subject. I beleive we need to start some where. I felt if the forum prepare the buleprint i am rady to implement in my college to test the result. :lol:
Please contribute to develope.
Regards
Venkatesan L
From India, Mumbai
Hi Venkat,
By the way am not a Dr.. :D ...so please call me Rajat..
Venkat: Am not sure what you mean by blueprint...to be honest what i felt was that there is a dire need for all of us especially working professionals in different fields to go back to schools & share their knowledge & expertise..or currculam/syballus of subjects to be reviewed by the professionals or suggestions of new topics/issues facing the industry which Institutes need to comprehend & do research.
For that it is essential we reach out to the right key people in educational institutions to become members of this forum or we could request Siddarth(our Citehr Administrator) to create a seperate section here requesting members if they would be interested in sharing their knowledge on a visiting faculty basis & preferred locations....
Maybe this would help us...
Request my colleagues to share their ideas or views...
Cheerio
Rajat
From India, Pune
By the way am not a Dr.. :D ...so please call me Rajat..
Venkat: Am not sure what you mean by blueprint...to be honest what i felt was that there is a dire need for all of us especially working professionals in different fields to go back to schools & share their knowledge & expertise..or currculam/syballus of subjects to be reviewed by the professionals or suggestions of new topics/issues facing the industry which Institutes need to comprehend & do research.
For that it is essential we reach out to the right key people in educational institutions to become members of this forum or we could request Siddarth(our Citehr Administrator) to create a seperate section here requesting members if they would be interested in sharing their knowledge on a visiting faculty basis & preferred locations....
Maybe this would help us...
Request my colleagues to share their ideas or views...
Cheerio
Rajat
From India, Pune
Hi Rajat,
well just been a member to this link.
I really found ur articles and contributions excellent.Am a faculty in OB in one of the prestigious B-school in Mumbai.Well ur statement "professors of today are not dedicated or committed as yesterdays Professors" sounded very untrue,as u know that many of us put our heart and soul to teaching the students.we not only train them with the knowledge required in the corporate world but also mould them with good attituted and soft skills.
thanks
warm regards
Nitin
From India, Bangalore
well just been a member to this link.
I really found ur articles and contributions excellent.Am a faculty in OB in one of the prestigious B-school in Mumbai.Well ur statement "professors of today are not dedicated or committed as yesterdays Professors" sounded very untrue,as u know that many of us put our heart and soul to teaching the students.we not only train them with the knowledge required in the corporate world but also mould them with good attituted and soft skills.
thanks
warm regards
Nitin
From India, Bangalore
hi ..
Let me put an angle to the discussion to look at it from an outside perspective ...
Above we have had a statement ""professors of today are not dedicated or committed as yesterdays Professors"" and also a response to the same from Nitin.
The angle I was talking about is that of a Marriage between
'what' is being taught in B Schools AND
'what' is actually happening in the industry.
Rajat and Nitin are pointing to these two facets ....
What we find in the Institutions today is probably the mismatch of the above two factors ..... Is there a channel where 'what is being taught in the insti' (with complete sincerety by the faculty) is being 'influenced' by 'what is happening in the industry'.
HAs the Faculty spent time in the Industry .... Full Time ....
Is the faculty having CLOSE interaction with Industry on Regular basis
Is the curriculum or the treatment of the same curriculum being changed in response to Industry changes.
How many intitutes / faculty are doing the above activities ...
What are the channels ofor the above communication / exchange ...
Rajat .. your thought process is the direction we should be looking at.
venkat .. I think you could throw some light on the 'blueprint' you have in mind ... CiteHR could be a nice platform to evolve and developthe BluePrint into an actionable and feasible and viable and effective plan of action. (ooops .. i guess the grammar went for a toss in this last statement :lol: )
Hope this forum discussion leads to "something" . . .
... shoOOonya ...
From Switzerland, Geneva
Let me put an angle to the discussion to look at it from an outside perspective ...
Above we have had a statement ""professors of today are not dedicated or committed as yesterdays Professors"" and also a response to the same from Nitin.
The angle I was talking about is that of a Marriage between
'what' is being taught in B Schools AND
'what' is actually happening in the industry.
Rajat and Nitin are pointing to these two facets ....
What we find in the Institutions today is probably the mismatch of the above two factors ..... Is there a channel where 'what is being taught in the insti' (with complete sincerety by the faculty) is being 'influenced' by 'what is happening in the industry'.
HAs the Faculty spent time in the Industry .... Full Time ....
Is the faculty having CLOSE interaction with Industry on Regular basis
Is the curriculum or the treatment of the same curriculum being changed in response to Industry changes.
How many intitutes / faculty are doing the above activities ...
What are the channels ofor the above communication / exchange ...
Rajat .. your thought process is the direction we should be looking at.
venkat .. I think you could throw some light on the 'blueprint' you have in mind ... CiteHR could be a nice platform to evolve and developthe BluePrint into an actionable and feasible and viable and effective plan of action. (ooops .. i guess the grammar went for a toss in this last statement :lol: )
Hope this forum discussion leads to "something" . . .
... shoOOonya ...
From Switzerland, Geneva
Hi Nitin,
Please accept my apologies if my statement has hurt you.
Thanks for the feedback on my postings..
Thanks to shoOOonya who clarified the issue from both perspectives and would like to add further on this matter.
But my emphasis was on the larger perspectives of educational institutes leaving the top and well known institutes which form a minuscule % of the total institutes where the learning by rote is done without much emphasis on how what why & where..
Secondly this statement professors of today are not dedicated or committed as yesterdays Professors was made by Kiran Karnik (President of Nasscomm) in Business world ( 25th October,2004 ) on issue of Managing Talent Management Differently. I use this article and thoughts to share with students on Business Creativity & Innovation workshop. According to Kiran Karnik, he says that people earlier became teachers out of commitment but today the people coming into even the top institutes are not of the same quality. This is a cause for concern.There is no incentive for people to do their masters or doctorate and hence you don’t get good faculty. And they are the multipliers who create the students.
Look around other lesser known institutes and colleges, the common refrain among the students would be quality of faculty and generally these institutes have high absenteeism as well. It’s a sorry state of affairs!!
Please don’t misunderstand me – all I am emphasizing that we need good & passionate professors – I remember attending the classes while I was studying in Fergusson college in Pune, we had excellent faculty of History – which had me hooked and eventually i specialized in that subject ( it’s a different story that I had intended to do economics!!). There would be very few professors who can rekindle the passion and make learning – a way of life – this attitude needs to be instilled in today’s students.
Look at today’s profiles of the students who enter the Industry – there is a mismatch!!
Cheerio
Rajat
From India, Pune
Please accept my apologies if my statement has hurt you.
Thanks for the feedback on my postings..
Thanks to shoOOonya who clarified the issue from both perspectives and would like to add further on this matter.
But my emphasis was on the larger perspectives of educational institutes leaving the top and well known institutes which form a minuscule % of the total institutes where the learning by rote is done without much emphasis on how what why & where..
Secondly this statement professors of today are not dedicated or committed as yesterdays Professors was made by Kiran Karnik (President of Nasscomm) in Business world ( 25th October,2004 ) on issue of Managing Talent Management Differently. I use this article and thoughts to share with students on Business Creativity & Innovation workshop. According to Kiran Karnik, he says that people earlier became teachers out of commitment but today the people coming into even the top institutes are not of the same quality. This is a cause for concern.There is no incentive for people to do their masters or doctorate and hence you don’t get good faculty. And they are the multipliers who create the students.
Look around other lesser known institutes and colleges, the common refrain among the students would be quality of faculty and generally these institutes have high absenteeism as well. It’s a sorry state of affairs!!
Please don’t misunderstand me – all I am emphasizing that we need good & passionate professors – I remember attending the classes while I was studying in Fergusson college in Pune, we had excellent faculty of History – which had me hooked and eventually i specialized in that subject ( it’s a different story that I had intended to do economics!!). There would be very few professors who can rekindle the passion and make learning – a way of life – this attitude needs to be instilled in today’s students.
Look at today’s profiles of the students who enter the Industry – there is a mismatch!!
Cheerio
Rajat
From India, Pune
welll...me being a student currently doin BMS....really think that hter is no practical training at all....most of the stuff tht is taught is from the books.....i at times dont unersatnd the reaosn to go to coll.....i can rather stay home go online and get more info compared to wt r profs give....
i think all B schools n undergrad colls for mgmt shd have professors form the industry teaching....
n ther be must be regular visits,....if projecta are not possibkle.....then we wld love to make projects in which there is total industry involvement,,,subjects tht are practical n info which cant be foubnd online....tht wld be hard n harrowin work...but really beneficial :)
regards
sunayna
From India, Mumbai
i think all B schools n undergrad colls for mgmt shd have professors form the industry teaching....
n ther be must be regular visits,....if projecta are not possibkle.....then we wld love to make projects in which there is total industry involvement,,,subjects tht are practical n info which cant be foubnd online....tht wld be hard n harrowin work...but really beneficial :)
regards
sunayna
From India, Mumbai
That gives a small idea :idea:
Maybe the first step towards 'updating' the profs. about the latest in the industry could be to encourage more and more (ultimately almost all) to get into a regular habit of visiting citehr and contribute as well as resolve their queries too.
CiteHR could well become a platform for the interation which we have been talking about.
Till the time a more comprehensive adn dedicated platform is developed for this specific purpose.
what say guys . . . .
From Switzerland, Geneva
Maybe the first step towards 'updating' the profs. about the latest in the industry could be to encourage more and more (ultimately almost all) to get into a regular habit of visiting citehr and contribute as well as resolve their queries too.
CiteHR could well become a platform for the interation which we have been talking about.
Till the time a more comprehensive adn dedicated platform is developed for this specific purpose.
what say guys . . . .
From Switzerland, Geneva
Hi Hemant,
Absolutely a brilliant idea!! Infact am doing my bit by encouraging HR & OB professors in B-schools to join this forum as well..
Hey where is Nitin?..hope you are reading this and we expect you to share your thoughts and ideas..
Has anyone has views on this?...
Cheerio
Rajat
From India, Pune
Absolutely a brilliant idea!! Infact am doing my bit by encouraging HR & OB professors in B-schools to join this forum as well..
Hey where is Nitin?..hope you are reading this and we expect you to share your thoughts and ideas..
Has anyone has views on this?...
Cheerio
Rajat
From India, Pune
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