Hi,
Recently I got a call from a HR Consultant for some HR opeining with one of their client company.
She asked me few details but one question almost shocked me.
She asked me whether I drink or not.
I Said no,which is a fact but then she told me that their client had this mandatory requirement that HR person should drink(reason:She has to be a part of many events/party & their clientele is of such nature).
The company is among one the most successful & reputed business house from India.
How fair is this??
Can any employer actually put such condition for recruitment.
Regards
Komal
From India, Delhi
Recently I got a call from a HR Consultant for some HR opeining with one of their client company.
She asked me few details but one question almost shocked me.
She asked me whether I drink or not.
I Said no,which is a fact but then she told me that their client had this mandatory requirement that HR person should drink(reason:She has to be a part of many events/party & their clientele is of such nature).
The company is among one the most successful & reputed business house from India.
How fair is this??
Can any employer actually put such condition for recruitment.
Regards
Komal
From India, Delhi
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Hi, Komal,
You are lucky that you are not joined this type of company. Otherwise, in the future, she might ask for something worse earlier. You are also advised to follow the path of life that you have designed for the future and never compromise with the surroundings that come into day-to-day life.
Regards,
Rachit Gogia
From India, Faridabad
You are lucky that you are not joined this type of company. Otherwise, in the future, she might ask for something worse earlier. You are also advised to follow the path of life that you have designed for the future and never compromise with the surroundings that come into day-to-day life.
Regards,
Rachit Gogia
From India, Faridabad
Hey,
I have also experienced the same with a GEE PEE. I was interviewed for the HR Head Opening in GEE PEE, and the director asked if I had ever drunk in my life and if a situation arose whether I would drink or not.
I replied, "never........"
From India, Guwahati
5I have also experienced the same with a GEE PEE. I was interviewed for the HR Head Opening in GEE PEE, and the director asked if I had ever drunk in my life and if a situation arose whether I would drink or not.
I replied, "never........"
From India, Guwahati
Without emotions, find out the exact reason.
Yes, a few positions demand that you must join a couple of drinks because of the kind of clients. Outside India, in a few places, people take beer - just like how we grab a can of coke. But that does not mean anyone and everyone would do that - some may say a big no to such drinks and still join the party/conversation by ordering soft/fruit-based drinks. So they don't "look" out of the group.
I don't understand why everyone is thinking so - "HR drinking and sanctioning leave." Where on earth have they requested the employee to drink "every day"? Don't make such a huge issue out of a simple statement.
Komal: Under such scenarios when you are asked if you would drink/consume alcohol if required, you could very well state:
"No, I do not consume alcohol. If that is mandatory, I am sorry - looks like I don't fit the picture. I am a health freak. I would like to know if the Management would be fine if I chose to have a fruit-based/non-alcoholic drink if all that matters is to accompany the clients in the conversation."
Here they may also want to know if you are okay with people around you drinking.
You may tell them your opinion too.
From India, Madras
Yes, a few positions demand that you must join a couple of drinks because of the kind of clients. Outside India, in a few places, people take beer - just like how we grab a can of coke. But that does not mean anyone and everyone would do that - some may say a big no to such drinks and still join the party/conversation by ordering soft/fruit-based drinks. So they don't "look" out of the group.
I don't understand why everyone is thinking so - "HR drinking and sanctioning leave." Where on earth have they requested the employee to drink "every day"? Don't make such a huge issue out of a simple statement.
Komal: Under such scenarios when you are asked if you would drink/consume alcohol if required, you could very well state:
"No, I do not consume alcohol. If that is mandatory, I am sorry - looks like I don't fit the picture. I am a health freak. I would like to know if the Management would be fine if I chose to have a fruit-based/non-alcoholic drink if all that matters is to accompany the clients in the conversation."
Here they may also want to know if you are okay with people around you drinking.
You may tell them your opinion too.
From India, Madras
Dear Komal,
There is nothing to be surprised about. It is solely in your hands whether to have a drink or not while attending the party. I have been attending parties for the last 10 years with only fruit drinks or snacks. You can learn more in such environments.
I strongly agree with Ash's view. However, make sure you are steadfast in your decisions. It is within your control. By attending the parties, you can get closer to your colleagues in your job.
All the best!
From India, Madras
There is nothing to be surprised about. It is solely in your hands whether to have a drink or not while attending the party. I have been attending parties for the last 10 years with only fruit drinks or snacks. You can learn more in such environments.
I strongly agree with Ash's view. However, make sure you are steadfast in your decisions. It is within your control. By attending the parties, you can get closer to your colleagues in your job.
All the best!
From India, Madras
Asha is absolutely right, there is no point in making it a big issue out of a simple statement. She is very much correct in the way and approach that she has mentioned, on how this could have been tackled and can be tackled by all HR professionals who are non-alcohol drinkers.
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Thank you for the valuable input. Let me know if you need any further assistance.
From India, Mumbai
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Thank you for the valuable input. Let me know if you need any further assistance.
From India, Mumbai
Komal,
As you have mentioned Head-HR, the position itself carries a better importance. It also differs from company to company. A Head of HR might sometimes be given free rein on project execution and its value. A question of that nature is not negative. You should address it more effectively in relation to the position you have applied for. You could have informed them that you do not drink, or rather, that you do not have any issues with others drinking, or make statements that show you are not overly narrow-minded.
Just chill, yaar. Take it easy and wrap it up.
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From India, Bangalore
As you have mentioned Head-HR, the position itself carries a better importance. It also differs from company to company. A Head of HR might sometimes be given free rein on project execution and its value. A question of that nature is not negative. You should address it more effectively in relation to the position you have applied for. You could have informed them that you do not drink, or rather, that you do not have any issues with others drinking, or make statements that show you are not overly narrow-minded.
Just chill, yaar. Take it easy and wrap it up.
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From India, Bangalore
Yes, sir. In the corporate world nowadays, it's required to have a small glass of a drink because at parties, some seniors will insist on a drink, and your refusal may be seen as an ego issue to them. It's just how things work. Take it as medicine, but it's necessary.
From India, Surat
From India, Surat
Hi,
I perceive these kinds of questions to be an integral part of the typically male-dominant Indian society where working women are considered to be mere objects of desire or eye candy, and individuals who can be utilized for purposes other than work.
Pardon me for my words, but these "pseudo-intellectual morons" and "hypocritical bastards" need to be appropriately punished so that they regard all females in a more dignified and respectful manner.
I believe the biggest flaw in Indian society is the misuse of Indian working women in the workplace, and I think these issues need to be resolved promptly.
India has always been a country that respects women. However, the significant flaw in this culture is that due to this wrong attitude, India will always remain a developing, and not a developed, economy.
The only option available is to change this attitude and to understand the best options for women's liberation and correct attitude formation.
Regards,
Rohan Bhatt
Business Consultant/Trainer
Square Consulting and Management Services
Cellular Line: +919638789089
Email: squareconsultants@gmail.com
From India, Pune
I perceive these kinds of questions to be an integral part of the typically male-dominant Indian society where working women are considered to be mere objects of desire or eye candy, and individuals who can be utilized for purposes other than work.
Pardon me for my words, but these "pseudo-intellectual morons" and "hypocritical bastards" need to be appropriately punished so that they regard all females in a more dignified and respectful manner.
I believe the biggest flaw in Indian society is the misuse of Indian working women in the workplace, and I think these issues need to be resolved promptly.
India has always been a country that respects women. However, the significant flaw in this culture is that due to this wrong attitude, India will always remain a developing, and not a developed, economy.
The only option available is to change this attitude and to understand the best options for women's liberation and correct attitude formation.
Regards,
Rohan Bhatt
Business Consultant/Trainer
Square Consulting and Management Services
Cellular Line: +919638789089
Email: squareconsultants@gmail.com
From India, Pune
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