Recently, I came across the job details for an HR position on Timesjobs.
Industry: Chemical industry
Location: 19, Hari Kunj, Shrinagar Colony Road, MG Rd Cross, Goregaon W, Mumbai
Position: Manager- HR, Admin, Legal
Contact Person: D. Ganapathy
Specialization: Office Management & Coordination, Civil Law, Employment & Industrial Relations, Employee Relations, Performance Management, Recruitment
Job Function: Administration, HR/PM/IR/Training, Legal/Law
We are looking for a mature person who will be responsible for recruiting the right candidates at the right time and at the right salary, looking after administration, housekeeping, liaison with advocates relating to cases under Section 138 and non-compliance of service agreements. The candidate must be good at drafting.
Why should an HR specialist meant for HR/Recruitment get involved in Admin duties such as housekeeping, infrastructure maintenance, assets, pantry, etc., and also assist the advocate in vetting/drafting, legal liaison, and compliance? Does it not sound awkward? These mixed roles will ruin the candidate.
This is like asking for 'Doctor cum Cook cum Sweeper cum Merchandiser.' Just imagine the role he does and finally, he will end up buying toiletries and stationeries, without having scope for HR practices. His association will be only with housekeeping boys, mopping girls, lift man, tea walla, security guards, and dusting legal case books and almirah. How many HR professionals are competent enough and trained to vet and draft legal agreements without an LLB?
It appears that anyone can advertise and post jobs as they like, citing recession as a reason. Oops...!! God alone can save candidates from these funny employers who pollute the work culture.
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Chandru
From India, Madras
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41Industry: Chemical industry
Location: 19, Hari Kunj, Shrinagar Colony Road, MG Rd Cross, Goregaon W, Mumbai
Position: Manager- HR, Admin, Legal
Contact Person: D. Ganapathy
Specialization: Office Management & Coordination, Civil Law, Employment & Industrial Relations, Employee Relations, Performance Management, Recruitment
Job Function: Administration, HR/PM/IR/Training, Legal/Law
We are looking for a mature person who will be responsible for recruiting the right candidates at the right time and at the right salary, looking after administration, housekeeping, liaison with advocates relating to cases under Section 138 and non-compliance of service agreements. The candidate must be good at drafting.
Why should an HR specialist meant for HR/Recruitment get involved in Admin duties such as housekeeping, infrastructure maintenance, assets, pantry, etc., and also assist the advocate in vetting/drafting, legal liaison, and compliance? Does it not sound awkward? These mixed roles will ruin the candidate.
This is like asking for 'Doctor cum Cook cum Sweeper cum Merchandiser.' Just imagine the role he does and finally, he will end up buying toiletries and stationeries, without having scope for HR practices. His association will be only with housekeeping boys, mopping girls, lift man, tea walla, security guards, and dusting legal case books and almirah. How many HR professionals are competent enough and trained to vet and draft legal agreements without an LLB?
It appears that anyone can advertise and post jobs as they like, citing recession as a reason. Oops...!! God alone can save candidates from these funny employers who pollute the work culture.
Regards,
Chandru
From India, Madras
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Thank you, Chandru, for bringing this to our attention. Some job requirements can be quite amusing, expecting miracles from candidates. I'm relieved they didn't specify needing someone with "Superman" or "Spiderman powers" - you just never know. Especially in times of recession, demands can be quite extreme.
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Yes, Ash and Ravi, you are right. That shows how HR functions there and the way people are treated and respected. In the name of multi-tasking, they vomit all nonsense in JDs. Such JDs will definitely irritate the candidates, and there are no moderators at job site portals to monitor before a JD is posted by its clients. It's high time they follow such quality practices. Hahah..!!
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Chandru
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Chandru
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Dear Friends,
Though it is awkward, but it is true. In today's time, many organizations keep only one person who does the entire HR & Admin functions. Rarely do HR & Admin Depts. kept separately. Time to time, they need to do recruitment, training, appraisal, as well as look after statutory compliance, security arrangements, housekeeping, and the canteen. Nowadays, HR has become a multipurpose department. Assign them any job that nobody does, and they will deliver. That's true.
Bibek
From India, Calcutta
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Though it is awkward, but it is true. In today's time, many organizations keep only one person who does the entire HR & Admin functions. Rarely do HR & Admin Depts. kept separately. Time to time, they need to do recruitment, training, appraisal, as well as look after statutory compliance, security arrangements, housekeeping, and the canteen. Nowadays, HR has become a multipurpose department. Assign them any job that nobody does, and they will deliver. That's true.
Bibek
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HR department has become like a 'Joker' in a pack of cards. Whom to blame, the polluting employers or the desperate candidates? This itself would show the image and the standard of that company.
Regards, Chandru
From India, Madras
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Regards, Chandru
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Dear Chandru,
Blame the employer. HR people uphold the image of the company, and having a "Good HR department" is a branding. However, they have understated the value of the department and try to keep people at the admin level (who are good at common administration tasks but not HR activities) to manage HR activities.
You see, they type exactly what was told to them.
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Blame the employer. HR people uphold the image of the company, and having a "Good HR department" is a branding. However, they have understated the value of the department and try to keep people at the admin level (who are good at common administration tasks but not HR activities) to manage HR activities.
You see, they type exactly what was told to them.
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Hi all,
Kindly go through the link [https://www.citehr.com/161573-real-hr-profession.html] and welcome your comments. :-P
Thank you.
From India, Kochi
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Kindly go through the link [https://www.citehr.com/161573-real-hr-profession.html] and welcome your comments. :-P
Thank you.
From India, Kochi
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Yes, Chandru, you are correct in your statement. However, in order to save the company's costs, the HR person is assigned the job of overseeing the work of Admin. On one hand, it is a cost-saving measure, but it has an adverse effect on the other side.
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Dear Members I too agree with Mr. banerjee. He/She posted the requirement for Chemical Industry (Manufacturing). In a manufacturing industries, HR is sole responsible for HR & Admin work.
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It's not about cost-cutting or polluted job descriptions. I think in many companies, the employer does not understand the difference between HRM, HRD, and Administration. All are just considered the same, thus all related things get merged, and real HR functions get diluted. The victim HR candidate gets on a roll to work for daily routine administration jobs and doesn't even get time to think about HR responsibilities.
I feel the HR candidate has to be very sure about the job role he or she is going to handle in the department as well as educate the management about the same.
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Anju Prince
From India, Chandigarh
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I feel the HR candidate has to be very sure about the job role he or she is going to handle in the department as well as educate the management about the same.
Regards,
Anju Prince
From India, Chandigarh
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