Dear Friends,
There seems to be very few safety professionals in this forum. Almost the posts from same few – that too mostly from HR, with their issues are seen repeatedly. Many a post is irrelevant. The discussion is almost dry.
I like the youngsters like Mr.Dilip Kumar, Ms.Hansa Vyas always contributing their might. However it is not enough. We have a beautiful forum. Can any of the friends suggest ways and means to make it more effective and lively please?
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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256There seems to be very few safety professionals in this forum. Almost the posts from same few – that too mostly from HR, with their issues are seen repeatedly. Many a post is irrelevant. The discussion is almost dry.
I like the youngsters like Mr.Dilip Kumar, Ms.Hansa Vyas always contributing their might. However it is not enough. We have a beautiful forum. Can any of the friends suggest ways and means to make it more effective and lively please?
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Dear Sir,
Thank you for showing your concern openly. In my opinion, one should communicate with all known Safety Professionals regarding the site, whether it's HR or a Safety Pro. I have done the same with my group of Safety Pros, but the response is very poor. No one is actively coming forward. I don't know the reason and I don't know how to increase participation.
Additionally, I have posted in many groups, including Orkut, about the forum. I am certain that if everyone with a positive intention of spreading awareness on Safety, Health, and Environment (SHE) starts engaging in such communications about the forum, we will see higher participation soon.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Thank you for showing your concern openly. In my opinion, one should communicate with all known Safety Professionals regarding the site, whether it's HR or a Safety Pro. I have done the same with my group of Safety Pros, but the response is very poor. No one is actively coming forward. I don't know the reason and I don't know how to increase participation.
Additionally, I have posted in many groups, including Orkut, about the forum. I am certain that if everyone with a positive intention of spreading awareness on Safety, Health, and Environment (SHE) starts engaging in such communications about the forum, we will see higher participation soon.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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please suggest me some colleges which conduct course in safety and EHS through correspondence course .
From India, Thana
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Dear Sir, It really a matter of concern. I am coming forward to actively participate in this initiaitve. Regards Firoz
From India, Bangalore
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From India, Bangalore
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Dear Kesava,
Thank you for your concern on safety and health. The reason for low participation, in my opinion, is the demoralizing state of safety affairs in most companies. With the exception of a few good Indian and all foreign companies, safety is given low priority treatment by other Indian companies. It is ironic that this highly serious field is not being taken seriously. The fault lies on both sides. Rampant corruption in the system allows companies to escape punishment by paying off authorities, so they do not allocate a big budget for this department. On the other hand, the labor force also shows no interest in safety. They undermine the safety staff by disregarding safety protocols. They fail to understand that all safety measures are for their own welfare and safety. This predicament faced by safety officers demoralizes them in many setups, including my own. Your enthusiasm gets caught between two unwilling parties. At least I would like to pursue something else.
Kind regards,
[Your Name]
From India, Delhi
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Thank you for your concern on safety and health. The reason for low participation, in my opinion, is the demoralizing state of safety affairs in most companies. With the exception of a few good Indian and all foreign companies, safety is given low priority treatment by other Indian companies. It is ironic that this highly serious field is not being taken seriously. The fault lies on both sides. Rampant corruption in the system allows companies to escape punishment by paying off authorities, so they do not allocate a big budget for this department. On the other hand, the labor force also shows no interest in safety. They undermine the safety staff by disregarding safety protocols. They fail to understand that all safety measures are for their own welfare and safety. This predicament faced by safety officers demoralizes them in many setups, including my own. Your enthusiasm gets caught between two unwilling parties. At least I would like to pursue something else.
Kind regards,
[Your Name]
From India, Delhi
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Dear Jitender,
Thank you for noticing the post.
We have achieved a lot, and the records speak for themselves:
DEATH/100,000 ----------1945----1990
Ag, forestry, fishing--------53-------42
Mining -------------------187-------43
Construction--------------126-------33
Manufacturing-------------19-------6
Transportation-------------52-------22
Wholesale retail------------10--------4
Services-------------------20--------4
From somewhere, we are stagnant. We may have to struggle a lot, but we are definitely improving, though slowly.
Let us move forward and try to do our best for the great cause.
Hope you will be there too!
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Thank you for noticing the post.
We have achieved a lot, and the records speak for themselves:
DEATH/100,000 ----------1945----1990
Ag, forestry, fishing--------53-------42
Mining -------------------187-------43
Construction--------------126-------33
Manufacturing-------------19-------6
Transportation-------------52-------22
Wholesale retail------------10--------4
Services-------------------20--------4
From somewhere, we are stagnant. We may have to struggle a lot, but we are definitely improving, though slowly.
Let us move forward and try to do our best for the great cause.
Hope you will be there too!
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Dear Deepak, You are most welcome friend. Try to involve in the discussion we are sure to gain. Regards, Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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From India, Kollam
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Dear all,
Nice to see a lot of new faces coming forward. Welcome all, and please participate in the group discussions with the same enthusiasm.
Kesav, sir, great work by welcoming and motivating everyone.
Regards,
DIPIL
From India
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Nice to see a lot of new faces coming forward. Welcome all, and please participate in the group discussions with the same enthusiasm.
Kesav, sir, great work by welcoming and motivating everyone.
Regards,
DIPIL
From India
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Dear Sir,
For improvement in safety and health, untiring work and patience are most required. Like training, some will give lip service to this concept. But of late, things have been changing, and all organizations are forced to implement safety measures. One has to improve their knowledge on safety matters, and this is not a one-time affair; it is an ongoing one. By sharing their experiences, everyone can benefit. However, there is also the string attached to the defensive confidence surrounding safety affairs. Let us try our best.
In my experience, valid and useful suggestions given in safety are always welcomed and implemented by organizations, whether small or big.
Regards, T.S. SRINIVASAN
From India, Pondicherry
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For improvement in safety and health, untiring work and patience are most required. Like training, some will give lip service to this concept. But of late, things have been changing, and all organizations are forced to implement safety measures. One has to improve their knowledge on safety matters, and this is not a one-time affair; it is an ongoing one. By sharing their experiences, everyone can benefit. However, there is also the string attached to the defensive confidence surrounding safety affairs. Let us try our best.
In my experience, valid and useful suggestions given in safety are always welcomed and implemented by organizations, whether small or big.
Regards, T.S. SRINIVASAN
From India, Pondicherry
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Dear Friends,
Thanks for your nice post, Mr. TSS.
I take this opportunity to bring out some criticism on the working of safety departments or safety staff.
I have always found that the chief executives are never averse to implementing essential safety measures. When the safety department wants something done and if it is recommended to do so, the originator often fails to convince the decision-maker. If the decision-maker seeks clarifications before approval, the originator fails to provide them. Probably, it will not come back to the decision-maker with the sought clarifications, and it gets dropped. The reason safety recommendations are not approved is often due to the lack of acceptable reasons provided with the recommendation initially. Executives are not puppets to approve whatever is submitted from safety or any other department; they too are accountable and require reasoning for approval.
For the failure on the part of safety personnel to convince the management, we often blame the management for not being interested in safety. If the decision-maker asks for three points, often safety personnel are not equipped to answer even one convincingly.
On the other hand, in organizations with effective safety departments, we can see that the personality of the safety staff propels it to the top and engages the executives significantly in the activities. Safety personnel also require very good communication skills as they are supposed to deal only with top management personnel to obtain policy decisions.
How many of our safety personnel are capable of doing justice to their roles? I assure you, not many, and this situation has to change.
Let safety personnel assess themselves:
1. Am I equipped with the required knowledge?
2. Am I fully conversant with the statutory requirements?
3. Am I aware of the modern techniques of safety management?
4. How are my communication skills?
5. What am I lacking in my approach to management?
6. Am I doing justice to the profession?
There are many more aspects to consider.
We need to rethink before blaming management for a lack of interest in safety.
A reminder: While I am pointing one finger at others, three remain pointed towards me.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Thanks for your nice post, Mr. TSS.
I take this opportunity to bring out some criticism on the working of safety departments or safety staff.
I have always found that the chief executives are never averse to implementing essential safety measures. When the safety department wants something done and if it is recommended to do so, the originator often fails to convince the decision-maker. If the decision-maker seeks clarifications before approval, the originator fails to provide them. Probably, it will not come back to the decision-maker with the sought clarifications, and it gets dropped. The reason safety recommendations are not approved is often due to the lack of acceptable reasons provided with the recommendation initially. Executives are not puppets to approve whatever is submitted from safety or any other department; they too are accountable and require reasoning for approval.
For the failure on the part of safety personnel to convince the management, we often blame the management for not being interested in safety. If the decision-maker asks for three points, often safety personnel are not equipped to answer even one convincingly.
On the other hand, in organizations with effective safety departments, we can see that the personality of the safety staff propels it to the top and engages the executives significantly in the activities. Safety personnel also require very good communication skills as they are supposed to deal only with top management personnel to obtain policy decisions.
How many of our safety personnel are capable of doing justice to their roles? I assure you, not many, and this situation has to change.
Let safety personnel assess themselves:
1. Am I equipped with the required knowledge?
2. Am I fully conversant with the statutory requirements?
3. Am I aware of the modern techniques of safety management?
4. How are my communication skills?
5. What am I lacking in my approach to management?
6. Am I doing justice to the profession?
There are many more aspects to consider.
We need to rethink before blaming management for a lack of interest in safety.
A reminder: While I am pointing one finger at others, three remain pointed towards me.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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