Hi,
Please guide me on this issue. My previous employer is not signing my PF transfer form. When I left the company, there was a problem with my boss as he did not provide me with a relieving letter or experience letter. Now he is refusing to sign the form.
Could you please suggest a solution to facilitate the transfer of the PF amount to my present employer's PF account? Your prompt response would be greatly appreciated.
From India, Bangalore
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1Please guide me on this issue. My previous employer is not signing my PF transfer form. When I left the company, there was a problem with my boss as he did not provide me with a relieving letter or experience letter. Now he is refusing to sign the form.
Could you please suggest a solution to facilitate the transfer of the PF amount to my present employer's PF account? Your prompt response would be greatly appreciated.
From India, Bangalore
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In the PF transfer form (Form 13), the signature of the previous employer is not required. It is to be sent through the present employer to the PF Office where the previous employer's accounts are kept. The PF authorities will call for Form 3A and a break certificate from the previous employer. A demand for Form 3A, break certificate, or any information about an employee by the EPF Office cannot be rejected by the employer.
If you wish to close the previous accounts instead of transferring them, the previous employer's signature is also not mandatory. The withdrawal forms (Form 19 and Form 10C) can be sent directly to the EPF Office after getting your signatures in the forms attested by a Gazetted Officer, MP/ MLA, or the Manager of the Bank to which the amounts are to be transferred. This is to ensure that the claimant is known and that his signature is attested. In such cases, the PF Office will also call for the required returns from the employer, which no employer can reject, stating that the employee left without notice or that the relationship with the employee was not good.
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Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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If you wish to close the previous accounts instead of transferring them, the previous employer's signature is also not mandatory. The withdrawal forms (Form 19 and Form 10C) can be sent directly to the EPF Office after getting your signatures in the forms attested by a Gazetted Officer, MP/ MLA, or the Manager of the Bank to which the amounts are to be transferred. This is to ensure that the claimant is known and that his signature is attested. In such cases, the PF Office will also call for the required returns from the employer, which no employer can reject, stating that the employee left without notice or that the relationship with the employee was not good.
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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Sir I want to know in such case wether employers contribution will be included?? Rashmi Wagholikar
From India, Mumbai
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From India, Mumbai
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Dear Rashmi,
The PF Act is governed by the central government and has the same rules all over India. Whatever your dues/entitlements are, they will definitely be paid to you. Yes, the employers' share will also be credited to your account.
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Baba Naresh
From India, Delhi
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The PF Act is governed by the central government and has the same rules all over India. Whatever your dues/entitlements are, they will definitely be paid to you. Yes, the employers' share will also be credited to your account.
Regards,
Baba Naresh
From India, Delhi
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I worked in my previous employer from Jan 2006 to may 2009 and in my new organization; I applied for PF transfer in June 2009. It has been 15 months now, but it’s not done yet.
One month back when I asked to my current employer they said: The last update is that the forms have been sent to your previous employer by RPFC, Gurgaon stating to submit Form 3A in Jan 10, please get in touch with your previous employer.
Then I asked my previous employer, they said that they have submitted 3A form in Jan 2010 to PF office and now when I contacted to PF office on this they said: Your form has been returned on 22.01.2010 due to non-availability of form 3A for the year 2008-2009.
My previous company is not doing well; they already have changed the company name and location and seem financially very week. I have doubt on submitting of 3A form. I tried to reaching them, but all calls are going either busy or no-one attending the calls.
Please let me know what steps I need to take it up. Any help will be appreciated.
From India, Madras
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One month back when I asked to my current employer they said: The last update is that the forms have been sent to your previous employer by RPFC, Gurgaon stating to submit Form 3A in Jan 10, please get in touch with your previous employer.
Then I asked my previous employer, they said that they have submitted 3A form in Jan 2010 to PF office and now when I contacted to PF office on this they said: Your form has been returned on 22.01.2010 due to non-availability of form 3A for the year 2008-2009.
My previous company is not doing well; they already have changed the company name and location and seem financially very week. I have doubt on submitting of 3A form. I tried to reaching them, but all calls are going either busy or no-one attending the calls.
Please let me know what steps I need to take it up. Any help will be appreciated.
From India, Madras
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It is not the responsibility of the concerned employee to get the Form 3A from an employer, but the EPF organization should bear it. Therefore, you may make a representation before the EPF Organization detailing the efforts you have already taken to get your previous account transferred. The letter should be addressed to the Asst. Provident Fund Commissioner of the area where your previous employer had maintained the PF accounts (to whom you had sent your Form 13) with a copy marked to the Regional PF Commissioner of that area and Asst. Provident Fund Commissioner of the present locality. You can also state that you have complied with the formalities by submitting Form 13 and the authorities should get the other processes done. If required, you may file a complaint following the provisions of the Right To Information Act later.
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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I submitted the PF transfer form with all the details, but the PF authorities returned it with a note asking me to submit Form No. 5 and a break certificate for non-wage-earning days. What should I do now? Please send me a solution, and could you explain what a break certificate is.
Thank you.
From India, Kochi
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Thank you.
From India, Kochi
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I don't know why the PF Office returned your transfer forms to you for want of Form 5 and break certificate. It is usually sent to the company directing them to submit Form 5 and break certificate and not to the applicant because these documents are not prepared and signed by the applicant but by the company where the applicant worked and from where the account is to be transferred. Otherwise, it may be a copy of the letter sent to the company for details but wrongly sent to you with Form 13. Please check.
Regards, Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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From India, Kannur
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Dear Sir/Madam,
I would like to inquire whether the Pension Fund can be transferred from the old member ID to the current ID. My pension fund has not been transferred to my current ID; only the employee share has been transferred. Is this acceptable?
If I were to leave this company and join another, what would happen to my pension fund up to this point? Please guide me.
Thank you.
From India, Rajkot
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I would like to inquire whether the Pension Fund can be transferred from the old member ID to the current ID. My pension fund has not been transferred to my current ID; only the employee share has been transferred. Is this acceptable?
If I were to leave this company and join another, what would happen to my pension fund up to this point? Please guide me.
Thank you.
From India, Rajkot
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Hi,
I am a bit confused about the responsibilities of the employer regarding an employee's previous employer's PF transfer to the current employment. Generally, the current employer shares Form 13 with the employee for transferring the PF to the current employer's PF account and then proceeds with the submission formalities to the PF office. After this, will the current employer follow up with the PF authorities to transfer the employee's PF, or should the employee get in touch with the PF authorities? Please let me know about the same as I am receiving different answers.
Regards,
Sachin Desai
From India, Mumbai
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I am a bit confused about the responsibilities of the employer regarding an employee's previous employer's PF transfer to the current employment. Generally, the current employer shares Form 13 with the employee for transferring the PF to the current employer's PF account and then proceeds with the submission formalities to the PF office. After this, will the current employer follow up with the PF authorities to transfer the employee's PF, or should the employee get in touch with the PF authorities? Please let me know about the same as I am receiving different answers.
Regards,
Sachin Desai
From India, Mumbai
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