Dear all,
I have been reading many posts on this site, and my impression is that people without formal qualifications are becoming HR Managers. Similarly, I have the impression about India that you don't need to be an MBBS or BE or have any formal qualifications to practice in the medical profession or engineering field. This is either due to fraudulent practices or a lack of law and order in the country, allowing people to practice any profession without the proper qualifications.
My friends from India, here in Dubai, have told me that many Bangali "BABA" kinds of people or touts are working as medical professionals. The questions raised by most members seem to indicate that a situation similar to Bangali "BABA" HR Managers is happening all over India.
Captain Cook
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
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3I have been reading many posts on this site, and my impression is that people without formal qualifications are becoming HR Managers. Similarly, I have the impression about India that you don't need to be an MBBS or BE or have any formal qualifications to practice in the medical profession or engineering field. This is either due to fraudulent practices or a lack of law and order in the country, allowing people to practice any profession without the proper qualifications.
My friends from India, here in Dubai, have told me that many Bangali "BABA" kinds of people or touts are working as medical professionals. The questions raised by most members seem to indicate that a situation similar to Bangali "BABA" HR Managers is happening all over India.
Captain Cook
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
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Your impression about India and the people working in India is wrong. Certainly, there might be people practicing medicine without proper qualifications, but I will not entertain them at all. One person came to my locality after 'serving' for a decade in the UK, claiming to be a medical practitioner. Very soon, we developed doubts about him, and he vanished from the clinic to 'resume' his work at his previous place!
I don't support your view that anybody can practice any profession without basic qualifications. It is wrong information passed to you by your Bengali friends.
If I say that only people who cannot find employment in India or whose services are not required by Indian companies, or those who are not deemed worthy of entering a profession in India, find employment in your place, Dubai, what will be your reaction?
Please tell your Bengali friends not to blame all Indians just because of some saints or babas who practice traditional medicine, and that too for minor irritations and ailments, not for heart attacks!
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Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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I don't support your view that anybody can practice any profession without basic qualifications. It is wrong information passed to you by your Bengali friends.
If I say that only people who cannot find employment in India or whose services are not required by Indian companies, or those who are not deemed worthy of entering a profession in India, find employment in your place, Dubai, what will be your reaction?
Please tell your Bengali friends not to blame all Indians just because of some saints or babas who practice traditional medicine, and that too for minor irritations and ailments, not for heart attacks!
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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I agree with Mr. Madhu. Many Indians, who are qualified professionals, are not only working in India but also working in other countries and doing well. In Dubai, if you log in using the employer ID of Naukri or Monster, you'll find that Indian engineers are working in the oil and gas industry more than the people of Dubai.
From India, Pune
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From India, Pune
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Always believe the facts, please.
We also hear many things about other countries, but we do not entertain them until we find the facts. I don't know who says what, but it's up to you to believe.
India has a huge population and a large number of educated and intelligent citizens. Here, it's difficult to get a job without proper qualifications or experience. This is a fact.
With such a huge population, there may be some possibilities of such things, but making an impression for everyone or for the whole country is absolutely wrong. So try not to form such an impression.
Lastly, we Indians do not need to prove anything regarding our intelligence or education because it's now globally recognized, and we are successfully working in every part of the world and in every field.
Thanks.
From India, Delhi
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We also hear many things about other countries, but we do not entertain them until we find the facts. I don't know who says what, but it's up to you to believe.
India has a huge population and a large number of educated and intelligent citizens. Here, it's difficult to get a job without proper qualifications or experience. This is a fact.
With such a huge population, there may be some possibilities of such things, but making an impression for everyone or for the whole country is absolutely wrong. So try not to form such an impression.
Lastly, we Indians do not need to prove anything regarding our intelligence or education because it's now globally recognized, and we are successfully working in every part of the world and in every field.
Thanks.
From India, Delhi
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Thank you to all for sharing your insight.
I was also surprised to hear from my Indian friend that no qualifications are required to practice any profession in India. I was also told that people get printed fake engineering and medical degree certificates from New Delhi and Mumbai. There are many printing presses that print such degrees, and agents sell them to needy people.
Specifically, most people here in the Middle East, out of 100 Indians, 95 belong to the state of Kerala. They do not hold formal qualifications and work in HR, administration, and secretarial jobs. I have personally encountered many Kerala citizens who worked as drivers in the past but are now working as managers in travel companies or hotels, claiming they studied Business Management in India. However, I was informed by a Kerala citizen that all these degree certificates are fake and manipulated.
I have observed many such practices by most Keralites and Filipinos in the Middle East, using fake certificates to work as doctors and engineers.
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Captaincook
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
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I was also surprised to hear from my Indian friend that no qualifications are required to practice any profession in India. I was also told that people get printed fake engineering and medical degree certificates from New Delhi and Mumbai. There are many printing presses that print such degrees, and agents sell them to needy people.
Specifically, most people here in the Middle East, out of 100 Indians, 95 belong to the state of Kerala. They do not hold formal qualifications and work in HR, administration, and secretarial jobs. I have personally encountered many Kerala citizens who worked as drivers in the past but are now working as managers in travel companies or hotels, claiming they studied Business Management in India. However, I was informed by a Kerala citizen that all these degree certificates are fake and manipulated.
I have observed many such practices by most Keralites and Filipinos in the Middle East, using fake certificates to work as doctors and engineers.
Regards,
Captaincook
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
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Well, sir,
One thing I would like to mention is that you mentioned one example of some Bengali fake doctors. It's not only Bengali; all over India, in all states and cities, there are fake and fraudulent individuals, from doctors and sadhus to HRs.
In faking, Indians are very smart. Even I have been deceived. It's very easy to obtain a printer for printing certificates. However, I did not forge my certificates. Just when I was a mischievous little kid trying to get a driver's license, I modified my date of birth to show that I was above 18 and obtained my driver's license. After some years, I realized my mistake, discarded that license, and obtained a new one. When I got the new one, the process had become computerized with a photo and fingerprint in their database. Saved, at last! 😉
From India, Pune
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One thing I would like to mention is that you mentioned one example of some Bengali fake doctors. It's not only Bengali; all over India, in all states and cities, there are fake and fraudulent individuals, from doctors and sadhus to HRs.
In faking, Indians are very smart. Even I have been deceived. It's very easy to obtain a printer for printing certificates. However, I did not forge my certificates. Just when I was a mischievous little kid trying to get a driver's license, I modified my date of birth to show that I was above 18 and obtained my driver's license. After some years, I realized my mistake, discarded that license, and obtained a new one. When I got the new one, the process had become computerized with a photo and fingerprint in their database. Saved, at last! 😉
From India, Pune
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Now, the captain has taken a different view that there are plenty of fake doctors and engineers in Dubai. It is a matter of civil administration of that country; I have nothing to do about it. His thread started blaming that no qualification is required to practice a profession in "India". Now it has taken a turn that in India it is not possible, whereas it is possible abroad!
Dear friend, a person holding an MBA degree may find it difficult to find a job that gives him an adequate salary, at least to repay his education loan. He may even be ready to accept employment as a driver in Dubai. Once settled, he may find a job as a manager. The man you met as a driver and manager may belong to this category. I personally know some postgraduates (genuine PGs from Calicut and Kerala Universities) who went to Dubai as laborers and later on got employed in very good institutions. There are still a good number of postgraduates employed in Dubai as Class IV employees. The case of Kerala is also similar. We have postgraduates doing the work of attenders and sweepers in government offices. Due to a lack of professionalism, many good positions are occupied by graduates of average skills.
Therefore, don't blame the entire country (now the blame has come down to a state, Kerala only) because we, those who work in India and for India, will not tolerate it.
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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Dear friend, a person holding an MBA degree may find it difficult to find a job that gives him an adequate salary, at least to repay his education loan. He may even be ready to accept employment as a driver in Dubai. Once settled, he may find a job as a manager. The man you met as a driver and manager may belong to this category. I personally know some postgraduates (genuine PGs from Calicut and Kerala Universities) who went to Dubai as laborers and later on got employed in very good institutions. There are still a good number of postgraduates employed in Dubai as Class IV employees. The case of Kerala is also similar. We have postgraduates doing the work of attenders and sweepers in government offices. Due to a lack of professionalism, many good positions are occupied by graduates of average skills.
Therefore, don't blame the entire country (now the blame has come down to a state, Kerala only) because we, those who work in India and for India, will not tolerate it.
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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Dear Captain Cook,
It is a matter of perceptions. You have been seeing the other side of India only.
May I remind you that India launched a moon mission named "Chandrayaan" recently. Do you think that it is possible to do that with fake scientists?
Medical tourism is booming in India. A large number of patients come to India for the treatment of cardiac, pulmonary, or neurological disorders. Do you think that it is possible to do that with fake doctors? India is the back office of the world and a software giant as well.
Do you think it is possible to be a giant by writing fake codes for the software?
I can quote numerous examples of this kind.
The reality is that India has a vast population. With this population, anything and everything is possible in India. The second challenge is that Indians do not hold that kind of pride for their country. The third challenge is that the average Indian is quite an undisciplined person.
Recently, there was a news report that a British man was punished for raping his daughters. Not only did he rape them, but his two daughters had four pregnancies from these rapes. The news was sickening to read. Does it mean that I should form a different opinion of Great Britain as a whole? No, this is not a portrait of the average British.
You have come across a bunch of unpatriotic citizens of India. But let me remind you, Captain, that Indians are the most successful foreigners in any given country. Success everywhere does not come through deceitful activities.
Dinesh V Divekar
Soft Skills and Behavioral Training Consultant
dineshdivekar(at)yahoo.com
From India, Bangalore
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It is a matter of perceptions. You have been seeing the other side of India only.
May I remind you that India launched a moon mission named "Chandrayaan" recently. Do you think that it is possible to do that with fake scientists?
Medical tourism is booming in India. A large number of patients come to India for the treatment of cardiac, pulmonary, or neurological disorders. Do you think that it is possible to do that with fake doctors? India is the back office of the world and a software giant as well.
Do you think it is possible to be a giant by writing fake codes for the software?
I can quote numerous examples of this kind.
The reality is that India has a vast population. With this population, anything and everything is possible in India. The second challenge is that Indians do not hold that kind of pride for their country. The third challenge is that the average Indian is quite an undisciplined person.
Recently, there was a news report that a British man was punished for raping his daughters. Not only did he rape them, but his two daughters had four pregnancies from these rapes. The news was sickening to read. Does it mean that I should form a different opinion of Great Britain as a whole? No, this is not a portrait of the average British.
You have come across a bunch of unpatriotic citizens of India. But let me remind you, Captain, that Indians are the most successful foreigners in any given country. Success everywhere does not come through deceitful activities.
Dinesh V Divekar
Soft Skills and Behavioral Training Consultant
dineshdivekar(at)yahoo.com
From India, Bangalore
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Mr. Captaincook,
I am amazed at your comment, and also you are trying to justify the same the second time. As far as I know, Dubai has a lot of Indian doctors and engineers. If Dubai is progressing, a lot of Indians have contributed to that. I also have friends who have come from the Middle East for education in India. Many Indian schools have their branches in the Middle East. When you comment, you need to get your facts right.
If one or two fruits are rotten, it does not mean the whole basket of fruit is rotten.
Regards,
Madhu
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I am amazed at your comment, and also you are trying to justify the same the second time. As far as I know, Dubai has a lot of Indian doctors and engineers. If Dubai is progressing, a lot of Indians have contributed to that. I also have friends who have come from the Middle East for education in India. Many Indian schools have their branches in the Middle East. When you comment, you need to get your facts right.
If one or two fruits are rotten, it does not mean the whole basket of fruit is rotten.
Regards,
Madhu
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Hey Captain Cook,
What qualifications and ethics are you talking about? By the way, the world knows that Dubai is a country built with black money from illegal activities like smuggling, drugs, and whatnot! Why don't you question your own countrymen about this? Or maybe they are professionally qualified in this?
From India, Mumbai
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What qualifications and ethics are you talking about? By the way, the world knows that Dubai is a country built with black money from illegal activities like smuggling, drugs, and whatnot! Why don't you question your own countrymen about this? Or maybe they are professionally qualified in this?
From India, Mumbai
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