Dear All
As far as the humanitarian ground is concerned, she should be given leave ( I don´t know, can we call and record it as maternity leave, since in her personal reccords the status is unmarried?) for her delivery. Dear all, I beg to think on the company´s point of view also. It is immaterial to deal in one´s personal life, but if it amounts to tarnishing the image of the company, how would an HR person will handle? Pregnancy is not a secret issue which can be hided for a long time. And the employees and society need not have to get the company´s information to know about the employee´s state. It will happen its own.
Then what will be the importance of a declaration and personal reccords furnished by the employee on joining? That doesñ´t have any implication in the legal courts?
Pour your different views,( or clarify my concerns).
Regards
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From India, Bangalore
As far as the humanitarian ground is concerned, she should be given leave ( I don´t know, can we call and record it as maternity leave, since in her personal reccords the status is unmarried?) for her delivery. Dear all, I beg to think on the company´s point of view also. It is immaterial to deal in one´s personal life, but if it amounts to tarnishing the image of the company, how would an HR person will handle? Pregnancy is not a secret issue which can be hided for a long time. And the employees and society need not have to get the company´s information to know about the employee´s state. It will happen its own.
Then what will be the importance of a declaration and personal reccords furnished by the employee on joining? That doesñ´t have any implication in the legal courts?
Pour your different views,( or clarify my concerns).
Regards
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From India, Bangalore
Dear Roopa, Thanks for your suggestion.
Dear Anurag, I understand, as it is a sensitive issue. Now, I'm strong enough to put my idea in front of the management. And thanks to you for a great help :)
From Korea
2Dear Anurag, I understand, as it is a sensitive issue. Now, I'm strong enough to put my idea in front of the management. And thanks to you for a great help :)
From Korea
Dear Rajan,
I understand your concern here, however, this is one of the case and can be handeled and taken care as a special case. I'm sure in abroad these things are normal, and I myself working in an MNC, thats why I would like to handel this issue with utmost care, so that there is a decision reached in between both of them i.e. the management and an employee.
What do you have to say on this??
From Korea
I understand your concern here, however, this is one of the case and can be handeled and taken care as a special case. I'm sure in abroad these things are normal, and I myself working in an MNC, thats why I would like to handel this issue with utmost care, so that there is a decision reached in between both of them i.e. the management and an employee.
What do you have to say on this??
From Korea
Hi Joe,
Pls to consider Aunrag words, 1st being human is more important than anything else. HR means People’s Person, so stand next to her and respect her feelings and support her to the Maximum extend you can.
Nothing to do with the personal life of an employee. Pls try to convince the Management.
Pls do reply soon.
Regards
Lavanya.k
From India, Bangalore
Pls to consider Aunrag words, 1st being human is more important than anything else. HR means People’s Person, so stand next to her and respect her feelings and support her to the Maximum extend you can.
Nothing to do with the personal life of an employee. Pls try to convince the Management.
Pls do reply soon.
Regards
Lavanya.k
From India, Bangalore
Dear Roopa,
Even if an employment contract clearly reads "your services can be terminated with/without notice in case of immoral acts (as defined by company)" a persona can not be terminated on this ground.
Any contract that is not in accordance with governing laws is null and void.
Vijai
From India, Hyderabad
Even if an employment contract clearly reads "your services can be terminated with/without notice in case of immoral acts (as defined by company)" a persona can not be terminated on this ground.
Any contract that is not in accordance with governing laws is null and void.
Vijai
From India, Hyderabad
Hi
Good to See everyone approach & meaning towards Humanity...
Take an Instance..
Give her Maternity Leave..
Do u set an Example for this Culture,,,
We have a Culture which is looked upon,,,,
Organisation Values & at the same time, the privacy of the Human is very much important...
It is not that if the employee is Good,, you can simply accept whatever the employee does...
An organisation is more than the Employee..
Individual Privacy & Humanity is very much important..
Sit across the table, discuss about the facts & part as friends..
Never Terminate the Employee, but at the same time, make sure that the Organisation is NOT Comfortable by these type of activities,,,,,
Part on Mutual Understanding & Respect......
I am not sure How many of us will be comfortable with my View....
From India, Coimbatore
Good to See everyone approach & meaning towards Humanity...
Take an Instance..
Give her Maternity Leave..
Do u set an Example for this Culture,,,
We have a Culture which is looked upon,,,,
Organisation Values & at the same time, the privacy of the Human is very much important...
It is not that if the employee is Good,, you can simply accept whatever the employee does...
An organisation is more than the Employee..
Individual Privacy & Humanity is very much important..
Sit across the table, discuss about the facts & part as friends..
Never Terminate the Employee, but at the same time, make sure that the Organisation is NOT Comfortable by these type of activities,,,,,
Part on Mutual Understanding & Respect......
I am not sure How many of us will be comfortable with my View....
From India, Coimbatore
Mr. Sardhar,
Here, I'm trying to emphasis on this only that it should be done with mutual understanding as it is a sensitive issue and these types of cases/issues are not faced on daily life.
I agree with you.
From Korea
Here, I'm trying to emphasis on this only that it should be done with mutual understanding as it is a sensitive issue and these types of cases/issues are not faced on daily life.
I agree with you.
From Korea
Hi Joe,
Though the situation has put you into a very uneasy position you will have to take the right way out. As per the Act a pregnant employee whether married or unmarried is eligible for maternity leave and is a statute. Hence under no circumstances especially because of the fact that she is pregnant at this point of time should you terminate her. It will also amount to discrimination and many other issues can arise out of this. The best way to deal with is to grant leave to her. I am sure she would be able to deal with the social aspect.
Thanks& Regards,
Merlin Mathews
Though the situation has put you into a very uneasy position you will have to take the right way out. As per the Act a pregnant employee whether married or unmarried is eligible for maternity leave and is a statute. Hence under no circumstances especially because of the fact that she is pregnant at this point of time should you terminate her. It will also amount to discrimination and many other issues can arise out of this. The best way to deal with is to grant leave to her. I am sure she would be able to deal with the social aspect.
Thanks& Regards,
Merlin Mathews
Hello,
Yes the employee can file a case against the company, it is her personal life as to whether she gets pregnant with out a marriage or with marriage, and the company does not have any right to comment upon the same
About the morality clause, it is in regards to morality and immorality in regards to her employment and not in regards to her personal life
The company cannot call a particular incident or occurrence in regards to personal life of any employees moral or immoral, because they cannot are not empowered or authorized to do so
Yes the company could have terminated her, if the company can prove with appropriate evidence that getting pregnant with out being married is a crime as per any of the Indian Statute, but this is not possible, because there is no such clause or act which states that getting pregnant without being married is illegal
And also request your company to be corporate and professional and not act as a moral police or the social morality torch bearer of the human society
Also see to it that when this particular employee joins backs, the other employee treats her in a humane ways and does not taunt or make her personal life a butt of joke
It takes a guts of steel to stand by a principle, if as a female she can decide to give birth to a child with out fearing the so called society of social animal's called humans, then why cant a company of yours take a stand, instead of terminating a employee on flimsy grounds of reputation failure
Thank You
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
Yes the employee can file a case against the company, it is her personal life as to whether she gets pregnant with out a marriage or with marriage, and the company does not have any right to comment upon the same
About the morality clause, it is in regards to morality and immorality in regards to her employment and not in regards to her personal life
The company cannot call a particular incident or occurrence in regards to personal life of any employees moral or immoral, because they cannot are not empowered or authorized to do so
Yes the company could have terminated her, if the company can prove with appropriate evidence that getting pregnant with out being married is a crime as per any of the Indian Statute, but this is not possible, because there is no such clause or act which states that getting pregnant without being married is illegal
And also request your company to be corporate and professional and not act as a moral police or the social morality torch bearer of the human society
Also see to it that when this particular employee joins backs, the other employee treats her in a humane ways and does not taunt or make her personal life a butt of joke
It takes a guts of steel to stand by a principle, if as a female she can decide to give birth to a child with out fearing the so called society of social animal's called humans, then why cant a company of yours take a stand, instead of terminating a employee on flimsy grounds of reputation failure
Thank You
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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