Hi Seniors,
I have joined an organization 3 months back and through form 11 I have requested them to link with my existing UAN.
Unfortunately when I'm logging in I can't see my present employment there, it's only showing my previous employment. I have talked to the concerned HR person and she told me that it'll take some time to show off and to get updated.
Today in unified employee portal I clicked on "äctivate UAN" and then put my pf account no mentioned in my pay slip, I also put my name, DOB and mobile no, then it showed that UAN already available and then it sent an OTP in my mobile no. The moment I put that OTP into the prescribed place it showed UAN activated. I also received an sms containing "UAN activation Password", I don't know where to use it.
I failed to understand why was it showing? If my present employer had linked the account no(In older system, because I joined in October) with the existing UAN then why this activation took place?
Does that mean they have activated a different UAN even after submitting the form 11 and requesting them to link with it?
What I know is the employer links it and the employee has nothing to do with it. So even if I tried to activate UAN using my present epf account no it should not show me "UAN is available, please activate it" and then after putting the OTP it showed activated.
What's this? Is my present employer linked with my original UAN or they have generated a new one?
Kindly advice.
From India, Bengaluru
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I have joined an organization 3 months back and through form 11 I have requested them to link with my existing UAN.
Unfortunately when I'm logging in I can't see my present employment there, it's only showing my previous employment. I have talked to the concerned HR person and she told me that it'll take some time to show off and to get updated.
Today in unified employee portal I clicked on "äctivate UAN" and then put my pf account no mentioned in my pay slip, I also put my name, DOB and mobile no, then it showed that UAN already available and then it sent an OTP in my mobile no. The moment I put that OTP into the prescribed place it showed UAN activated. I also received an sms containing "UAN activation Password", I don't know where to use it.
I failed to understand why was it showing? If my present employer had linked the account no(In older system, because I joined in October) with the existing UAN then why this activation took place?
Does that mean they have activated a different UAN even after submitting the form 11 and requesting them to link with it?
What I know is the employer links it and the employee has nothing to do with it. So even if I tried to activate UAN using my present epf account no it should not show me "UAN is available, please activate it" and then after putting the OTP it showed activated.
What's this? Is my present employer linked with my original UAN or they have generated a new one?
Kindly advice.
From India, Bengaluru
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During the period of August to November, joining employees have all been issued fresh UANs. Linking was disabled from September 2016. The present system will also be discontinued, and a new LIN system will be introduced through the Shram Suvidha portal. Under a single ID, EPF/ESI, and other labour welfare contributions will be paid.
Transferring your account or linking your old UAN is not a big issue. Just ensure that the one you choose is fully KYC compliant. If you wish to surrender the new UAN and link it to the old UAN, email your request with details to the nominated officer of your jurisdiction. The list can be found at the following link: http://www.epfindia.com/site_docs/PD...dhaCentres.pdf
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725Transferring your account or linking your old UAN is not a big issue. Just ensure that the one you choose is fully KYC compliant. If you wish to surrender the new UAN and link it to the old UAN, email your request with details to the nominated officer of your jurisdiction. The list can be found at the following link: http://www.epfindia.com/site_docs/PD...dhaCentres.pdf
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Sir,
In my last company, I worked for 6 and a half years, and they generated the UAN that was fully KYC compliant with PAN, Aadhar, and Bank account. So, are you saying in this new company I have been assigned a new UAN? In that case, I will need to request that UAN number because my last 3 months' pay slips only mention the EPF member account number, not the UAN.
Once I have this new UAN, can I transfer my balance from the old UAN to the new one? I hope this transfer will not affect my pension period and will not create any gaps in my career concerning EPF since I have not had any breaks.
Thank you.
From India, Bengaluru
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In my last company, I worked for 6 and a half years, and they generated the UAN that was fully KYC compliant with PAN, Aadhar, and Bank account. So, are you saying in this new company I have been assigned a new UAN? In that case, I will need to request that UAN number because my last 3 months' pay slips only mention the EPF member account number, not the UAN.
Once I have this new UAN, can I transfer my balance from the old UAN to the new one? I hope this transfer will not affect my pension period and will not create any gaps in my career concerning EPF since I have not had any breaks.
Thank you.
From India, Bengaluru
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If you want to keep your old UAN, which is KYC compliant (Aadhaar, bank, and PAN are digitally verified, and UAN is activated), then ask the employer to seed the old UAN with your joining date. From the next contribution, use the old UAN for payment. If it is not KYC compliant, then the system will ask to seed all KYC data; otherwise, it will refuse the same.
After the successful seeding of your old UAN and one ECR payment from the present employer, you can transfer the money deposited in the alternate UAN by filing the claim here One Employee One PF.
In all situations, the employee is at no loss. The system is simply trying to rectify the errors linked with the member's database.
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After the successful seeding of your old UAN and one ECR payment from the present employer, you can transfer the money deposited in the alternate UAN by filing the claim here One Employee One PF.
In all situations, the employee is at no loss. The system is simply trying to rectify the errors linked with the member's database.
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Vice versa, you can transfer your old balance to a new account also. In all cases, you have to ensure that the data is correct, matching with Aadhaar, PAN, and has no date or spelling errors. The same site will facilitate the transfer from both sides. Just log in with the UAN you want to keep active.
Once the amount gets transferred (usually taking 30 to 60 days), the linked UAN will be abolished, and the employee will be informed over the registered mobile.
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Once the amount gets transferred (usually taking 30 to 60 days), the linked UAN will be abolished, and the employee will be informed over the registered mobile.
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Thank you, sir. I don't know. I have to ask her whether, in this month, she has already linked the establishment code with my old UAN or not and then submitted ECR or not. Because what you have stated is that if I want to keep the old UAN, I have to ask her to seed my date of joining with that old UAN, and then the company has to give one ECR. Maybe she has done it this month itself, and if that happens, then in any case, I have to transfer the amount from the new UAN to the old UAN. In that case, I will have the privilege to choose which one to keep and which one to dissolve. If before filing ECR this month, she has already seeded my DOJ with my old UAN, then I'll have only one option left. Anyways, thank you once again, sir.
From India, Bengaluru
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With the same DOJ and DOB, you can have two UANs in the same establishment for this period; however, you have to choose which one you want to keep and close the other one by taking a transfer. As I said earlier, this system will also come to an end soon, and EPF/ESIC and other labor returns would get a unique identity.
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Sir, thank you for your advice. I joined 3 months ago, but only yesterday did I discover that I have been assigned another UAN, thanks to our conversation. I sent an email this morning to the relevant person and successfully activated the second UAN. However, upon logging in, I couldn't access the passbook, likely due to a waiting period of 4 days post-activation. The second UAN is also KYC compliant, as indicated on the UAN card, though I am unaware of the documents used for its compliance. Is there a way for me to find out?
Currently, both my UANs are KYC compliant. What steps should I take next? You previously mentioned that I can keep either of the two, but I would appreciate your advice on which one to retain and when I can initiate a transfer. Can funds be transferred from the old UAN to the new one, or vice versa, immediately? Or would it be advisable to wait for a few days? I seek your guidance on this matter.
From India, Bengaluru
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Currently, both my UANs are KYC compliant. What steps should I take next? You previously mentioned that I can keep either of the two, but I would appreciate your advice on which one to retain and when I can initiate a transfer. Can funds be transferred from the old UAN to the new one, or vice versa, immediately? Or would it be advisable to wait for a few days? I seek your guidance on this matter.
From India, Bengaluru
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Wait 10 days, and look into KYC details. KYC details are visible in the profile KYC update. If both are fully KYC compliant, then you have the choice to keep one and close the second one by transfer. However, later this year, all such accounts will get clubbed and merged to LIN based on ID. There is no fear of any loss of money or pension.
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Sir,
I will try to transfer my money from UAN 2 to UAN 1. Before that on last friday I had activated my UAN 2 and logged in successfully. On last Wednesday (After 4 days) I downloaded the passbook of my new company.
Now the problem is I have opened One Employee One PF account Portal One Employee One PF
I'm giving the same mobile no used in UAN 2, the same UAN number (UAN 2) and the same Member Account no (Which is linked with UAN 2). I have verified and re-verified it several times. I'm badically trying to authenticate it as my present employment and tried to link UAN 1 just in case if I able to transfer UAN 1 to UAN 2.
But everytime I'm clicking on generate OTP it's showing invalid credentials. The mobile no used in UAN 2, the UAN no and the member account no all are correct then why it's showing ïnvalid credentials"?
Can you please tell me why it's happening.
These are the same details which are showing post log into the unified member portal. Then why it's showing invalid credentials?
For your reference I'm attaching the screenshot of the same.
Kindly help me out and guide me what to do? Isn't this account no linked with the UAN anymore?
Please help.
From India, Bengaluru
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I will try to transfer my money from UAN 2 to UAN 1. Before that on last friday I had activated my UAN 2 and logged in successfully. On last Wednesday (After 4 days) I downloaded the passbook of my new company.
Now the problem is I have opened One Employee One PF account Portal One Employee One PF
I'm giving the same mobile no used in UAN 2, the same UAN number (UAN 2) and the same Member Account no (Which is linked with UAN 2). I have verified and re-verified it several times. I'm badically trying to authenticate it as my present employment and tried to link UAN 1 just in case if I able to transfer UAN 1 to UAN 2.
But everytime I'm clicking on generate OTP it's showing invalid credentials. The mobile no used in UAN 2, the UAN no and the member account no all are correct then why it's showing ïnvalid credentials"?
Can you please tell me why it's happening.
These are the same details which are showing post log into the unified member portal. Then why it's showing invalid credentials?
For your reference I'm attaching the screenshot of the same.
Kindly help me out and guide me what to do? Isn't this account no linked with the UAN anymore?
Please help.
From India, Bengaluru
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