Dear All,
I am working in a manufacturing unit where around 350 employees work in our factory. We have a canteen facility and we use industrial cylinders. Is there a less expensive and safer method than the usage of LPG cylinders? Please clarify.
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8I am working in a manufacturing unit where around 350 employees work in our factory. We have a canteen facility and we use industrial cylinders. Is there a less expensive and safer method than the usage of LPG cylinders? Please clarify.
From India, Chennai
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Dear Guru, Another method is steam generated from boiler can be used as heat source to cook food.
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Dear Sir,
Thank you for your valuable reply. We have a boiler to supply hot water to the heat treatment plant (KILN). My query is, can we use this boiler for a steam generation system in the canteen?
Please assist me with this matter.
Thank you.
From India, Chennai
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Thank you for your valuable reply. We have a boiler to supply hot water to the heat treatment plant (KILN). My query is, can we use this boiler for a steam generation system in the canteen?
Please assist me with this matter.
Thank you.
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Dear Sir,
You can try Diesel burners; they will be cost-effective, and the stove flame is safe, good for preparing Roti/Puri. They are also easily available and maintainable.
Regards, RDS Yadav Labour Law Adviser
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You can try Diesel burners; they will be cost-effective, and the stove flame is safe, good for preparing Roti/Puri. They are also easily available and maintainable.
Regards, RDS Yadav Labour Law Adviser
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Sir, I have one doubt. We are 5 brothers jointly running a canteen in one of the factories, and we share the profit. Now, the factory is requesting to submit the wage register, time card, and PF/ESI details for all members. Kindly suggest.
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There is an exemption from the Payment of Wages Act and Contract Labour Act when there are no employees, and only the owners (partners) are working. Therefore, you need to demonstrate this to the principal employer. It is advisable to maintain attendance records to provide evidence that no employees are working.
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Another option to use natural gas or induction stove in canteen
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@Mr Banerjee - can you please share the sections of PWA & CLA that exempt owners (Partners) working in canteen
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Mr. Guru,
You can continue with the present practice of using commercial cooking cylinders, as the number of employees taking food in the canteen is around 350 only. Hence, if you go in for any additional expenditure like connecting the boiler line to the cooking area, or putting on a solar cooker, etc., there would not be much savings worth the additional investment spent. You can interact with pressure cooker manufacturers to work out the feasibility of providing a safe, big-sized cooker so that the time and cost for cooking staple food like rice can be reduced.
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M. Venkatraghavan
From India, Selam
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You can continue with the present practice of using commercial cooking cylinders, as the number of employees taking food in the canteen is around 350 only. Hence, if you go in for any additional expenditure like connecting the boiler line to the cooking area, or putting on a solar cooker, etc., there would not be much savings worth the additional investment spent. You can interact with pressure cooker manufacturers to work out the feasibility of providing a safe, big-sized cooker so that the time and cost for cooking staple food like rice can be reduced.
Regards,
M. Venkatraghavan
From India, Selam
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Mr. PPSingh,
The point is not so much a specific exemption in the two acts, as it is a derivation of the rules. Please see the applicability of each of the two acts. They talk of employers or workers. The definition of workers is also given, and it does not include a partner. Since partners are not considered workers, the rules do not apply to them. There is no need to pay them a salary (minimum wages do not apply either), no overtime rules, and no records of payment of wages are necessary.
However, partners must have proof that they are indeed partners and not employees. Family members who work are not considered partners or owners of the business, though they would not fall into this category.
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The point is not so much a specific exemption in the two acts, as it is a derivation of the rules. Please see the applicability of each of the two acts. They talk of employers or workers. The definition of workers is also given, and it does not include a partner. Since partners are not considered workers, the rules do not apply to them. There is no need to pay them a salary (minimum wages do not apply either), no overtime rules, and no records of payment of wages are necessary.
However, partners must have proof that they are indeed partners and not employees. Family members who work are not considered partners or owners of the business, though they would not fall into this category.
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Mr. Venkatraghavan Sir, Thanks for your valuable information and i will contact the manufacturer for easy process. Once again thanking you. I need your support for further enqueries.
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There are very efficient and elegant cookstoves that can use a variety of biomass. The best ones work on the principle of gasification where the biomass (wood, husk, etc.) is burned to produce combustible smoke, which is burned to provide flame for cooking.
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