Hi ,
I am 29 year old married women. I was working off role in an MNC until my manager asked me to quit due to totally non-professional reason.
I was given reason by my manager that he likes me and this is creating issues in his personal life and so i should quit.
He gave me 2-3 months time but then started teasing me saying things like how much are you crying these days and when i could not take it anymore
i quit the job filing a mental harassment case .Fortunately i have evidence of what he said to me which i have submitted to MNC HR team .
The MNC was really supportive with me and are doing investigation against manager but my payroll company behavior is very rude .
They are not ready to provide me relieving letter and are treating me as if i have done something wrong.
Now wherever i go for interview they ask me for relieving letter from previous employer and so i am not able to get new job also even after clearing interviews also.
These have been really hard days in my life .
Just need an way so that i can get my relieving letter .
Thanks
From United States, Palatine
I am 29 year old married women. I was working off role in an MNC until my manager asked me to quit due to totally non-professional reason.
I was given reason by my manager that he likes me and this is creating issues in his personal life and so i should quit.
He gave me 2-3 months time but then started teasing me saying things like how much are you crying these days and when i could not take it anymore
i quit the job filing a mental harassment case .Fortunately i have evidence of what he said to me which i have submitted to MNC HR team .
The MNC was really supportive with me and are doing investigation against manager but my payroll company behavior is very rude .
They are not ready to provide me relieving letter and are treating me as if i have done something wrong.
Now wherever i go for interview they ask me for relieving letter from previous employer and so i am not able to get new job also even after clearing interviews also.
These have been really hard days in my life .
Just need an way so that i can get my relieving letter .
Thanks
From United States, Palatine
Dear Ms. Arora,
What is the findings of Investigation report. This report helps you to get Relieving letter. In my opinion it must be in your favour.
You must talk to senior management of MNC, with the findings of Investigation Report, and make pressure on that Manager.
With these pressure tactics only you may get Relieving letter.
Regards,
Manish Bali
From India, Delhi
38What is the findings of Investigation report. This report helps you to get Relieving letter. In my opinion it must be in your favour.
You must talk to senior management of MNC, with the findings of Investigation Report, and make pressure on that Manager.
With these pressure tactics only you may get Relieving letter.
Regards,
Manish Bali
From India, Delhi
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From India, Bangalore
If you are working in Bangalore please reach us on below number. We do assist you in this matter.
Govind Sagar AV
MSW, LL.b
Labour Law Consultant
PH-9036368502
From India, Bangalore
Dear Ms. Arora,
Considering your circumstance, there are few questions as follows;
Why you quit your job? Hence, your HR Team has the support on your case. And there is no concern for support of HR. Thus, you have all the supporting documents for this sexual harassment in the working environment, and indeed this is a full CONTEXT of sexual harassment and abuse of authority in the working environment.
After analysis/finding of your HR team, what was the result? Did you consult this issue with your staff association? What's the HR Policy of your company quoting on this situation?
Is there the same accident with anyone else in your department under the same manager supervision and line of authority?
Please collect all of your documents in an email written. This might be supportive for you in the future.
However, I strongly recommend you to do the communication properly with your senior management in this case, make HR in the loop and try to close each and everything in a peaceful manner.
From Singapore, Singapore
Considering your circumstance, there are few questions as follows;
Why you quit your job? Hence, your HR Team has the support on your case. And there is no concern for support of HR. Thus, you have all the supporting documents for this sexual harassment in the working environment, and indeed this is a full CONTEXT of sexual harassment and abuse of authority in the working environment.
After analysis/finding of your HR team, what was the result? Did you consult this issue with your staff association? What's the HR Policy of your company quoting on this situation?
Is there the same accident with anyone else in your department under the same manager supervision and line of authority?
Please collect all of your documents in an email written. This might be supportive for you in the future.
However, I strongly recommend you to do the communication properly with your senior management in this case, make HR in the loop and try to close each and everything in a peaceful manner.
From Singapore, Singapore
Hello P76arora,
Nejati80 raised very valid points.....pl clarify them to enable the members to give more actionable suggestions.
Further, pl elaborate on these aspects too.
How big is your Payroll Company? Where do your Payroll Company's MD & HR sit....in the same premises of your manager & you or in another city?
Have you reported to the MNC HR that you have been asked to resign by this manager & also that you didn't get your Relieving Docs? If Yes, what was their response & if No, why?
Does you husband know about the factual situation? This COULD be important in the long run.
Vis-a-vis your line "............that he likes me and this is creating issues in his personal life and so i should quit", If he can't control himself, I think it's his goddamn problem....NOT your's. it's HE who should be resigning.
Coming to how to handle the I/Vs in the Worst-case-Scenario [that you can't/won't get your Docs].........a few points:
1] Were your salaries paid thru cheques/bank transfers? In either case, you would be having Bank Statements to back your employment status here. Many Companies now accept these Docs in-lieu of formal Relieving Docs.
2] Have you taken any Testimonial/Referral Letter(s) from the MNC reporting managers? You can use them to buttress your professional standing. If you haven't taken any, suggest push for them......they will be useful not just now but even later in your career.
3] Speak to the MNC's HR & your reporting person there to pressurize your manager to give you the Docs. Also, suggest put it across 'VERY SUBTLY' that you are being advised to go to the media & if need be to the Police. Quite often, the very possibility of such drastic action solves such issues. The MNC HR is sure to pass this info to your Company's Heads. I think the MNC HR also would be eager to close this ASAP.....once things reach the media, even the MNC wouldn't be out of the media glare.
You mentioned that 'evidence of what he said to me which i have submitted to MNC HR team'. Did you give the evidence to your Company too?
Pl give more clarity & details for better actionable suggestions.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Nejati80 raised very valid points.....pl clarify them to enable the members to give more actionable suggestions.
Further, pl elaborate on these aspects too.
How big is your Payroll Company? Where do your Payroll Company's MD & HR sit....in the same premises of your manager & you or in another city?
Have you reported to the MNC HR that you have been asked to resign by this manager & also that you didn't get your Relieving Docs? If Yes, what was their response & if No, why?
Does you husband know about the factual situation? This COULD be important in the long run.
Vis-a-vis your line "............that he likes me and this is creating issues in his personal life and so i should quit", If he can't control himself, I think it's his goddamn problem....NOT your's. it's HE who should be resigning.
Coming to how to handle the I/Vs in the Worst-case-Scenario [that you can't/won't get your Docs].........a few points:
1] Were your salaries paid thru cheques/bank transfers? In either case, you would be having Bank Statements to back your employment status here. Many Companies now accept these Docs in-lieu of formal Relieving Docs.
2] Have you taken any Testimonial/Referral Letter(s) from the MNC reporting managers? You can use them to buttress your professional standing. If you haven't taken any, suggest push for them......they will be useful not just now but even later in your career.
3] Speak to the MNC's HR & your reporting person there to pressurize your manager to give you the Docs. Also, suggest put it across 'VERY SUBTLY' that you are being advised to go to the media & if need be to the Police. Quite often, the very possibility of such drastic action solves such issues. The MNC HR is sure to pass this info to your Company's Heads. I think the MNC HR also would be eager to close this ASAP.....once things reach the media, even the MNC wouldn't be out of the media glare.
You mentioned that 'evidence of what he said to me which i have submitted to MNC HR team'. Did you give the evidence to your Company too?
Pl give more clarity & details for better actionable suggestions.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
My payroll company is very small(50-200 employees) , There is no info about company owners,directors etc atleast on the internet . The company is Delhi based .
I went to company address once to collect offer letter and there was no-one except one person who handed me offer letter.
I have told everything to MNC and submitted evidence and they are still doing investigation for the case .They have been very supportive .
I have heard that many payroll company female employes have suffered the same by this person and it is coming out during MNC investigation so i hope he will be punished .
Earlier my payroll company asked me to get a mail from MNC HR for relieving which they provided, Then Payroll company asked to submit evidence against manager which i did not to them and then
they are asking me to submit in writing that no action should be taken against payroll company by MNC .
During my employment i heard rumors that the Payroll Company was registered on managers wife name against whom i lodged complaint , although there is nothing to support it but the attitude
of the Payroll company HR suggests the same . They treat me like how dare you file a case against manager, this is also the reason i quit my job and have not provided them evidence .
Seeing this i have realized i will not get my Relieving letter.
I do have bank statements to support my salary but not sure if some other company would understand if i tell them exact reason why i left .
All things kept aside this incident has really put me in bad mental situation and now sometimes i wonder i should have just left withous complaining .
I dont think going to media is an option as that would effect my married life also although my husband has been really supportive and i have been able to
come this far by his support .
I just hope to get out of all this and start my career again.
From United States, Palatine
I went to company address once to collect offer letter and there was no-one except one person who handed me offer letter.
I have told everything to MNC and submitted evidence and they are still doing investigation for the case .They have been very supportive .
I have heard that many payroll company female employes have suffered the same by this person and it is coming out during MNC investigation so i hope he will be punished .
Earlier my payroll company asked me to get a mail from MNC HR for relieving which they provided, Then Payroll company asked to submit evidence against manager which i did not to them and then
they are asking me to submit in writing that no action should be taken against payroll company by MNC .
During my employment i heard rumors that the Payroll Company was registered on managers wife name against whom i lodged complaint , although there is nothing to support it but the attitude
of the Payroll company HR suggests the same . They treat me like how dare you file a case against manager, this is also the reason i quit my job and have not provided them evidence .
Seeing this i have realized i will not get my Relieving letter.
I do have bank statements to support my salary but not sure if some other company would understand if i tell them exact reason why i left .
All things kept aside this incident has really put me in bad mental situation and now sometimes i wonder i should have just left withous complaining .
I dont think going to media is an option as that would effect my married life also although my husband has been really supportive and i have been able to
come this far by his support .
I just hope to get out of all this and start my career again.
From United States, Palatine
Hello P76arora,
I guess your best bet would be the pressure by the MNC on your HR to give you the Docs.....but how far can/would they go to support you will be the question. But since the Payroll Company size is small, it should be possible.
Try to find-out how much time would it still take for the MNC investigation to be completed.
When I mentioned "suggest put it across 'VERY SUBTLY' that you are being advised to go to the media & if need be to the Police", I DIDN'T mean that you should actually go & do it.
The motive is to put the fear [and the consequent repercussions] of such a step, rather than actually doing it.....hope you get the difference. And I mentioned to project that it's a suggestion/advice that CAME to you.....NOT your idea.
I fully realize the situations that CAN crop-up IF you actually go to the media......what you mentioned about your married life being JUST ONE of them. There are others too......and it's surely not possible for middle-class people like us to handle them.
And, unfortunately, guys like your manager quite possibly know this limitation of women & take advantage.
I think I would tend to agree with you in not giving the evidence to your payroll Company.....chances of misuse for a cover-up are high.
W.r.t. your line "they are asking me to submit in writing that no action should be taken against payroll company by MNC"--Your stand will simply have to be the fact--that there's no way you have any control over the investigation or the results or the resultant actions. It's between them & the MNC.
W.r.t. your line "not sure if some other company would understand if i tell them exact reason why i left"--it would be tough unless you are ready to show the Complaint you filed with the MNC. However, I think you would need to be tactful when you answer about the reason--not being too blunt but yet giving the background.
This is where the MNC References & Testimonials I suggested will be needed/useful.
W.r.t. your line ".........now sometimes i wonder i should have just left withous complaining"--frankly, looking back, probably yes. But that's behind you now.
All I can say is that you MAYBE didn't weigh ALL the possible scenarios when you complained........however, it happens, especially in situations like your's. One gets carried away before reasoning is allowed to come into effect.
All the Best.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
I guess your best bet would be the pressure by the MNC on your HR to give you the Docs.....but how far can/would they go to support you will be the question. But since the Payroll Company size is small, it should be possible.
Try to find-out how much time would it still take for the MNC investigation to be completed.
When I mentioned "suggest put it across 'VERY SUBTLY' that you are being advised to go to the media & if need be to the Police", I DIDN'T mean that you should actually go & do it.
The motive is to put the fear [and the consequent repercussions] of such a step, rather than actually doing it.....hope you get the difference. And I mentioned to project that it's a suggestion/advice that CAME to you.....NOT your idea.
I fully realize the situations that CAN crop-up IF you actually go to the media......what you mentioned about your married life being JUST ONE of them. There are others too......and it's surely not possible for middle-class people like us to handle them.
And, unfortunately, guys like your manager quite possibly know this limitation of women & take advantage.
I think I would tend to agree with you in not giving the evidence to your payroll Company.....chances of misuse for a cover-up are high.
W.r.t. your line "they are asking me to submit in writing that no action should be taken against payroll company by MNC"--Your stand will simply have to be the fact--that there's no way you have any control over the investigation or the results or the resultant actions. It's between them & the MNC.
W.r.t. your line "not sure if some other company would understand if i tell them exact reason why i left"--it would be tough unless you are ready to show the Complaint you filed with the MNC. However, I think you would need to be tactful when you answer about the reason--not being too blunt but yet giving the background.
This is where the MNC References & Testimonials I suggested will be needed/useful.
W.r.t. your line ".........now sometimes i wonder i should have just left withous complaining"--frankly, looking back, probably yes. But that's behind you now.
All I can say is that you MAYBE didn't weigh ALL the possible scenarios when you complained........however, it happens, especially in situations like your's. One gets carried away before reasoning is allowed to come into effect.
All the Best.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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