Dear, I have a confusion regarding which grade is higher officer or executive can someone forward me the grades like peons/clerk/ etc.
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Grades and Designations are mere words that describe some concepts that an organization holds as far its Human Resource is concerned.
In common parlance, in HR, one should understand that a "Designation" should be indicative of the function or the job that the holder is expected to perform, and a "Grade" should describe the salary/wage, allowances and other benefits, if any, that all occupants of the grade will be eligible to receive.
It can happen that one Designation may cover multiplicity of grades depending either the seniority or competence of the individuals holding the designation, and its also possible there are can be many Designations to whom the same grade may apply.
For example, the designation "Executive" may cover grades, E-1, E-2, E-3 etc. and one grade, SS-1 may be applied to various designations like, Peons, Drivers, Assistants and so on.
The point to remember is that the hierarchy of both, the Grades and of Designations, represent , always the the order of significance the organization attaches to them.
Both have to be established in tune with Organization's philosophy, culture, capacity, and organization of work (i.e. functionalization) as also the organization of employment (i.e emolument structure and levels of significance to the organization).
I hope, this reply would clear your confucion about the words and the concepts. If it doesn't, raise further queries. Would be glad to respond!
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samvedan
December 5, 2004
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In common parlance, in HR, one should understand that a "Designation" should be indicative of the function or the job that the holder is expected to perform, and a "Grade" should describe the salary/wage, allowances and other benefits, if any, that all occupants of the grade will be eligible to receive.
It can happen that one Designation may cover multiplicity of grades depending either the seniority or competence of the individuals holding the designation, and its also possible there are can be many Designations to whom the same grade may apply.
For example, the designation "Executive" may cover grades, E-1, E-2, E-3 etc. and one grade, SS-1 may be applied to various designations like, Peons, Drivers, Assistants and so on.
The point to remember is that the hierarchy of both, the Grades and of Designations, represent , always the the order of significance the organization attaches to them.
Both have to be established in tune with Organization's philosophy, culture, capacity, and organization of work (i.e. functionalization) as also the organization of employment (i.e emolument structure and levels of significance to the organization).
I hope, this reply would clear your confucion about the words and the concepts. If it doesn't, raise further queries. Would be glad to respond!
Regards
samvedan
December 5, 2004
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Hi As Practical Answer to you Designation and Grades are different.See the difference as under
Designation
General manager
Dy.General Manager
Assistant General Manager
Sr.Manager
Manager
Dy.Manager
Asst.manager
Executive
Officer
Assistant
Office Support Staff(Office Assistant/peon/Driver)
Highly skilled worker
Skilled worker
Semi skilled worker
Un skilled worker
You can grade them further based on experience & salary
Example Take Exceutive Position
E1 Exceutive Senior Grade 10-12 yrs exp 15000-20000
E2 Executive Grade I 8-10 yrs exp 10000-15000
E3 Executive Grade II 6-8 yrs exp 7500-10000
E4 Executive Grade III 4-5 yrs exp. 5000-7500
While recruiting the candidate you can grade them based on the experience and salary
Each Job position you can grade like above
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Designation
General manager
Dy.General Manager
Assistant General Manager
Sr.Manager
Manager
Dy.Manager
Asst.manager
Executive
Officer
Assistant
Office Support Staff(Office Assistant/peon/Driver)
Highly skilled worker
Skilled worker
Semi skilled worker
Un skilled worker
You can grade them further based on experience & salary
Example Take Exceutive Position
E1 Exceutive Senior Grade 10-12 yrs exp 15000-20000
E2 Executive Grade I 8-10 yrs exp 10000-15000
E3 Executive Grade II 6-8 yrs exp 7500-10000
E4 Executive Grade III 4-5 yrs exp. 5000-7500
While recruiting the candidate you can grade them based on the experience and salary
Each Job position you can grade like above
Dr.Thomaskutty
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(Fact Check Failed/Partial)-The user's reply provides a detailed breakdown of different job grades, which is informative. However, the traditional hierarchy in most organizations is Officer > Executive. It's essential to align with industry norms and organizational structures.
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Hello Sir, I am a silent member of this site.I feel executive is more. with regards, shruthi.
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(Fact Check Failed/Partial)-The correct hierarchy typically places "officer" above "executive" in most organizations. It's essential to consult your company's specific job grading system for accurate information.
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I realy doubt whether there is any position called executive...The Executive cadre includes all between Manager, General Managers to top executives like Directors.Normally in comapnies we have position like officer,sr. officer,asst. Manager,Dty. Manager,Manager.....followed by Deputy General Manager,then General Manager etc..
Even Marketing Executive or Management Trainee could be below an officer or officer cadre and on completing probation they may be considered as an officer.Anyway according to my knowledge..i havent seen a position called executive.
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Even Marketing Executive or Management Trainee could be below an officer or officer cadre and on completing probation they may be considered as an officer.Anyway according to my knowledge..i havent seen a position called executive.
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(Fact Check Failed/Partial)-The term "executive" is commonly used in organizational hierarchies. It typically includes positions like Managers, General Managers, and Directors. The term "officer" is also a distinct position in many companies, usually ranking above executives. Therefore, the information provided in the user's reply is inaccurate.
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of course there are designations such as executive and senior exective, etc. but both officer and executive are very vague and can depend on the organization where such terms are used.
Incidentally, can anyone help me out in finding out what is current salary trend in IT industry??
Ruchika
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Incidentally, can anyone help me out in finding out what is current salary trend in IT industry??
Ruchika
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(Fact Checked)-The terms "officer" and "executive" can vary by organization. In general, executive roles are higher than officer roles. For IT industry salary trends, refer to relevant industry reports. (1 Acknowledge point)
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Ruchika, If such designations are there...how are they positioned in an industry...i would like to know whether they are above officers. Jayas
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(Fact Check Failed/Partial)-The user reply is incorrect. In most organizational structures, officers typically hold higher positions than executives. This hierarchy is common in corporate settings.
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my observation and experience shows that at most places officers and executives are interchangeable. Correct me if i am wrong but Executive is a sophisticated replacement for officer.
Officer is passe and Executive is hip.
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Officer is passe and Executive is hip.
Ruchika
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(Fact Check Failed/Partial)-The distinction between officers and executives is not about sophistication but rather about job responsibilities and levels within an organization. Officer positions typically hold more authority and decision-making power compared to executive roles. It's essential to understand the specific definitions and requirements for each title within the organizational context.
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Ruchika, I liked the way you expressed...hip and passe. Anyway,just tell me by what name will you classify the group 'Manager to Directors', while grading. Have a nice day.
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(Fact Check Failed/Partial)-The user's reply is incorrect. In grading, the hierarchy typically progresses from lower-level employees like peons and clerks to managers and then directors, with directors being higher than managers.
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well to be honest, we are also using the same old terms in our organization. In our Manufacturing unit we use Manager, Operations & Production or Senior Manager, or Manufcturing Associate. For our IT team we use Lead Developer, Practice Manager, Principal.
Maybe someone can tell me what is the current trend in the industry, because in IT we keep changing the designations.
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Maybe someone can tell me what is the current trend in the industry, because in IT we keep changing the designations.
Ruchika
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(Fact Checked)-The terms "officer" and "executive" do not have a universally fixed hierarchy. Each organization may define these roles differently. Your examples of designations in manufacturing and IT are common industry trends. It's essential to align titles with roles and responsibilities for clarity. (1 Acknowledge point)
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(Fact Checked)-The user's reply provides accurate and comprehensive information regarding the difference between grades and designations in an organization. The explanation is clear and insightful. (1 Acknowledge point)