Dear All,
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Our company has offices in Pune & Delhi. In Pune's office, there are 6 employees, and in Delhi's office, there are 4 employees. PF is applicable for establishments where the number of employees is more than 20. My question is, in the case of my company, do Delhi + Pune employees together have to be 20 for PF applicability, or does the Delhi office need to have 20 employees and Pune's office must have 20 employees for PF to be applicable?
Kindly reply and help clarify my doubt as I am a fresher and the only HR personnel looking after both offices. Your reply will be most helpful and valuable to me.
Thanks in advance.
From India, Khopoli
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Good Afternoon!
Our company has offices in Pune & Delhi. In Pune's office, there are 6 employees, and in Delhi's office, there are 4 employees. PF is applicable for establishments where the number of employees is more than 20. My question is, in the case of my company, do Delhi + Pune employees together have to be 20 for PF applicability, or does the Delhi office need to have 20 employees and Pune's office must have 20 employees for PF to be applicable?
Kindly reply and help clarify my doubt as I am a fresher and the only HR personnel looking after both offices. Your reply will be most helpful and valuable to me.
Thanks in advance.
From India, Khopoli
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Dear Pradnu, PF is applicable if any establishment has employed 20 or more employees irrespective of their job location. Rgds, Anil Mishra Manager - HR & Administration Rishiroop Group of Companies
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From India, Mumbai
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Dear Pradnu, Though the pf act is applicable for having more than 20& more employees, irrespective of location, your employee may opt for the voluntary pf registration if required.
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Dear Sir & Madam, Thank you for the reply. I have one doubt that while considering 20 employees do i need to consider Delhi employee plus Pune employee together 20 or individually 20..... Thank you.
From India, Khopoli
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From India, Khopoli
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while considering 20 employees ,you have consider together so in your case both the employees of Delhi and Pune
From India, Pune
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Dear Pradnu,
There is no simple answer to your problem. While the safe option is to club the two, as has been suggested, there are certain guiding principles regarding the assessment of whether two units separated by thousands of kilometers could be counted as one or not. The core principle is that the factual position has to be considered on the basis of the following factors:
1. Is it the same set of officials controlling and guiding both units? If so, clubbing is to be done.
2. Is one unit the Head Office/Marketing Office and the other a branch office controlled by the Head Office? If so, clubbing is to be done.
3. Are the activities in both units the same, or does one contribute to the other or are they interrelated as far as production activity is concerned? If they are related, clubbing is to be done.
4. Are the books of account, profit-loss statement, and capital common? If so, clubbing is to be done.
5. Is the staff transferable from one unit to another? The fact that you are looking after HR in both units is a vital factor for clubbing.
There could be more factors to show the interrelationship of the units, and it needs a thorough analysis.
KK
From India, Bhopal
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There is no simple answer to your problem. While the safe option is to club the two, as has been suggested, there are certain guiding principles regarding the assessment of whether two units separated by thousands of kilometers could be counted as one or not. The core principle is that the factual position has to be considered on the basis of the following factors:
1. Is it the same set of officials controlling and guiding both units? If so, clubbing is to be done.
2. Is one unit the Head Office/Marketing Office and the other a branch office controlled by the Head Office? If so, clubbing is to be done.
3. Are the activities in both units the same, or does one contribute to the other or are they interrelated as far as production activity is concerned? If they are related, clubbing is to be done.
4. Are the books of account, profit-loss statement, and capital common? If so, clubbing is to be done.
5. Is the staff transferable from one unit to another? The fact that you are looking after HR in both units is a vital factor for clubbing.
There could be more factors to show the interrelationship of the units, and it needs a thorough analysis.
KK
From India, Bhopal
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