Dear Seniors,
Please revert as soon as possible.
Current Condition:
Date of Joining: 17/04/12
Designation: Senior Executive in HR Department (Solely handling HR Department)
Salary: 16,750 per month
Working Hours: 8:30 am to 6 pm (9.5 hours)
Weekly Off: Sunday
Leave: 18 days annually (Can take 1.5 days per month)
Company Turnover: 1,500 crores
Job Description:
1. Time office management
2. Salary preparation in Excel sheet and sending to Consultant
3. Making an overtime sheet
4. Monitoring contractors' manpower and checking bills monthly
5. Issuing notices for any indiscipline on company premises and workplace
6. Conducting joining formalities for junior positions
7. Resolving employee issues such as advances, gate passes, and timings
8. Coordinating with consultants for ESIC, EPF, and legal compliance
9. Coordinating with various consultants for compliance with regulations
10. Event and guest management, ticket and hotel bookings
11. Supervising housekeeping and security
12. Maintaining leave and gratuity records
13. Issuing appointment letters
14. Managing personal files and bank accounts for new hires
Opportunity:
1. Designation: Assistant Manager (Admin)
2. Department Chart: GM (Admin) - Manager (Admin) - Assistant Manager (Admin) - Executive
3. Salary: 27,000 monthly (Cash in hand: 23,288 monthly)
4. Working Hours: 12 hours (8 am to 8 pm) - Plant Head also follows this schedule
5. Weekly Off: Sunday
6. Leave System: Up to six months not entitled to leave; after six months, total 30 leaves
7. Turnover: 800 crores
8. Job Description: Recruitment and selection from job portals, drafting JDs, liaising with legal departments, complete payroll, EPF and ESIC, and administrative work
Seniors, I am in a dilemma about what to do next and what is best for my future. Should I join there or not? I have listed all relevant points. Please help and suggest.
Thanks,
Jagdish
9927566695
From India, Delhi
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3Please revert as soon as possible.
Current Condition:
Date of Joining: 17/04/12
Designation: Senior Executive in HR Department (Solely handling HR Department)
Salary: 16,750 per month
Working Hours: 8:30 am to 6 pm (9.5 hours)
Weekly Off: Sunday
Leave: 18 days annually (Can take 1.5 days per month)
Company Turnover: 1,500 crores
Job Description:
1. Time office management
2. Salary preparation in Excel sheet and sending to Consultant
3. Making an overtime sheet
4. Monitoring contractors' manpower and checking bills monthly
5. Issuing notices for any indiscipline on company premises and workplace
6. Conducting joining formalities for junior positions
7. Resolving employee issues such as advances, gate passes, and timings
8. Coordinating with consultants for ESIC, EPF, and legal compliance
9. Coordinating with various consultants for compliance with regulations
10. Event and guest management, ticket and hotel bookings
11. Supervising housekeeping and security
12. Maintaining leave and gratuity records
13. Issuing appointment letters
14. Managing personal files and bank accounts for new hires
Opportunity:
1. Designation: Assistant Manager (Admin)
2. Department Chart: GM (Admin) - Manager (Admin) - Assistant Manager (Admin) - Executive
3. Salary: 27,000 monthly (Cash in hand: 23,288 monthly)
4. Working Hours: 12 hours (8 am to 8 pm) - Plant Head also follows this schedule
5. Weekly Off: Sunday
6. Leave System: Up to six months not entitled to leave; after six months, total 30 leaves
7. Turnover: 800 crores
8. Job Description: Recruitment and selection from job portals, drafting JDs, liaising with legal departments, complete payroll, EPF and ESIC, and administrative work
Seniors, I am in a dilemma about what to do next and what is best for my future. Should I join there or not? I have listed all relevant points. Please help and suggest.
Thanks,
Jagdish
9927566695
From India, Delhi
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Dear Jagdish,
Here is my opinion. My views may differ from yours, so you should make your decision yourself.
Take the job because you are getting a higher salary. All future increments and negotiations will be based on the current salary; hence, don't take it lightly.
As long as the company is stable and has good business visibility, the company's turnover doesn't matter. What matters is your salary vis-a-vis your efforts. Working 12 hours a day is a bit taxing, but from what you have mentioned, the workload seems manageable. In any case, if you are young and fit, go for it. Later on, when age catches up, and if you need money and you are willing to work 12 hours a day, you may not be able to.
In the worst-case scenario, if you can't cope with the new company's rules/culture, you can work there for about a year and then consider a job change - and can definitely negotiate a higher salary than 27K.
Note: Just for reference, do not compare just the in-hand amount. Also, check the value (and usefulness) of other services that any company provides, e.g., transportation, medical insurance, subsidized food, etc.
Don't worry too much about the leave part. Most employers consider a genuine need for leave sympathetically. In the worst-case scenario, if they don't give paid leave and you genuinely need to take leave, ask for leave without pay.
Hope this helps.
Best Regards,
Ritesh
From India, Pune
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Here is my opinion. My views may differ from yours, so you should make your decision yourself.
Take the job because you are getting a higher salary. All future increments and negotiations will be based on the current salary; hence, don't take it lightly.
As long as the company is stable and has good business visibility, the company's turnover doesn't matter. What matters is your salary vis-a-vis your efforts. Working 12 hours a day is a bit taxing, but from what you have mentioned, the workload seems manageable. In any case, if you are young and fit, go for it. Later on, when age catches up, and if you need money and you are willing to work 12 hours a day, you may not be able to.
In the worst-case scenario, if you can't cope with the new company's rules/culture, you can work there for about a year and then consider a job change - and can definitely negotiate a higher salary than 27K.
Note: Just for reference, do not compare just the in-hand amount. Also, check the value (and usefulness) of other services that any company provides, e.g., transportation, medical insurance, subsidized food, etc.
Don't worry too much about the leave part. Most employers consider a genuine need for leave sympathetically. In the worst-case scenario, if they don't give paid leave and you genuinely need to take leave, ask for leave without pay.
Hope this helps.
Best Regards,
Ritesh
From India, Pune
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I think the new job is better.... recruitment experience is very much in demand in all sectors (even during recession) and I think it has better prospect in terms of growth and salary.
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Dear Jagdish,
Now you are on the threshold of building your career. In the long run, practical experience matters more in a career. So, please learn as much as possible at this stage.
It seems the new assignment will give you an opportunity to learn other aspects of HR; take it up with an open heart.
Regarding timing, do not worry too much; in any factory, normal working hours are only on paper or in law books. Look at the brighter side of the opportunity and adjust accordingly. Over time, if you find the company culture and atmosphere are not suitable, you can look for a better opportunity elsewhere, adding whatever you have learned from this organization to your experience. This will further enhance your CV.
In my personal opinion, go ahead with the new opportunity, keeping in mind that you want to further your learning in other HR processes for a better future.
All the best,
Suresh
From India, Pune
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Now you are on the threshold of building your career. In the long run, practical experience matters more in a career. So, please learn as much as possible at this stage.
It seems the new assignment will give you an opportunity to learn other aspects of HR; take it up with an open heart.
Regarding timing, do not worry too much; in any factory, normal working hours are only on paper or in law books. Look at the brighter side of the opportunity and adjust accordingly. Over time, if you find the company culture and atmosphere are not suitable, you can look for a better opportunity elsewhere, adding whatever you have learned from this organization to your experience. This will further enhance your CV.
In my personal opinion, go ahead with the new opportunity, keeping in mind that you want to further your learning in other HR processes for a better future.
All the best,
Suresh
From India, Pune
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