Hi All Why do people in the organisation hate hr professionals.??? Why HR Dept. does not hold good reputation in the organisation. Regards Saurabh
From India, Delhi
From India, Delhi
Saurabh
This is a very generic statement, how many organisations and people have you spoken to. Is it a hearsay or a research you have done which points towards the statement you are making. Is it HR dept or the person in the role ?
In general, HR is the one to always convey the bad news, be it termination, lay off, pay cut etc, that's the prime reason for the "dislike" employees may have. There's a saying, no matter how many good things you may do , you are somehow remembered for the one "unfriendly"/"unpopular" decision you had to take or make.
4This is a very generic statement, how many organisations and people have you spoken to. Is it a hearsay or a research you have done which points towards the statement you are making. Is it HR dept or the person in the role ?
In general, HR is the one to always convey the bad news, be it termination, lay off, pay cut etc, that's the prime reason for the "dislike" employees may have. There's a saying, no matter how many good things you may do , you are somehow remembered for the one "unfriendly"/"unpopular" decision you had to take or make.
Hi Saurabh,
Totally agrreing to what Rajnish has said!! Saurabh its people who make the company and HR plays a strong role out there. So if you have heard of people not liking the HR , am sure its not with respect to the job but its because of its PEOPLE working in that dept.!!!
What do u say Rajnish ? ;)
Jensen.
From India, Mumbai
Totally agrreing to what Rajnish has said!! Saurabh its people who make the company and HR plays a strong role out there. So if you have heard of people not liking the HR , am sure its not with respect to the job but its because of its PEOPLE working in that dept.!!!
What do u say Rajnish ? ;)
Jensen.
From India, Mumbai
I am witness to situations as well when people try to demean the work you do. HR has changed and has evolved in the last 10 years, the value which was earlier "burried" now has come to the fore, organisations are in cognizance of the tangible benefits HR brings in. However we as a HR community still face a task of educating the people we serve on the "importance" and "contributions". Most of it was also because, HR was always sidetracked from strategic initiatives, but with a paradigm shift on management, and "talent" is becoming key, HR has lot to offer.
Coming to the point, yes Jensen, HR's image is in the hands of all of us, we as practitioners need to perform this role in a manner that earns us respect and adulation.
Coming to the point, yes Jensen, HR's image is in the hands of all of us, we as practitioners need to perform this role in a manner that earns us respect and adulation.
Research shows that HR people does not have Business Acumen and most of their actions are not aligned with corporate startegy.
This has even been emphasised in a latest book of Ulrich & Brockbank "Hr Value Proposition"
From India, Delhi
This has even been emphasised in a latest book of Ulrich & Brockbank "Hr Value Proposition"
From India, Delhi
Self-agranizement and belittling others is the basic human nature to differentiate himself/herself from others. Is there any exception to it? regards
From India, Delhi
From India, Delhi
I agree with what Rajnish stated. people try to demean what you are doing. But allow me to restate what i had stated earlier on another topic:
Unless and until there is genuine committment from the top management, no credible HR can survive. Many of the organisations have 'puppet' HR who are considered to be the closest to the CEO or Coo or whoever. Perception is reality, my dear friends!
From India, Madras
Unless and until there is genuine committment from the top management, no credible HR can survive. Many of the organisations have 'puppet' HR who are considered to be the closest to the CEO or Coo or whoever. Perception is reality, my dear friends!
From India, Madras
Saurabh
Your question to us has changed from "why people Hate HR " to a quote from Dave's book on HR's lack of business acumen. Both are separate topics.
As regards to business acumen, yes I agree, HR has traditionally been a administrative function, as you sit on strategic initiatives you will not only need to have a thorough understanding of the business you are in, you should have optimum knowledge of other functional areas to make you a more effective HR professional.
Your question to us has changed from "why people Hate HR " to a quote from Dave's book on HR's lack of business acumen. Both are separate topics.
As regards to business acumen, yes I agree, HR has traditionally been a administrative function, as you sit on strategic initiatives you will not only need to have a thorough understanding of the business you are in, you should have optimum knowledge of other functional areas to make you a more effective HR professional.
Hi all,
Just wanted to share my opinion on this topic.
If we look at any strategies of HR, may it be movitational strategies, recruitment, compensation, they are all like a sword, with sharp edges. The question is WHO is holding this sword, and what is his intention, to enslave or to protect? it can go both ways. Thats why HR practitioners, in my opinion, will always be "hated". And that is why im a HR practitioner, myself. I try to be in a position where the unbias information is available for the decision-maker.
I do remember in 1 HR interview, the HR manager asked me this question, "why do you want to be in HR?....If I had the choice I would never had step in. It is a thankless job, so why do you want to be in HR?"
Thankless as it by be, I personally sleep better knowing I did my best to help a situation improve.
Regards
Noel
From Malaysia, Johor Bahru
Just wanted to share my opinion on this topic.
If we look at any strategies of HR, may it be movitational strategies, recruitment, compensation, they are all like a sword, with sharp edges. The question is WHO is holding this sword, and what is his intention, to enslave or to protect? it can go both ways. Thats why HR practitioners, in my opinion, will always be "hated". And that is why im a HR practitioner, myself. I try to be in a position where the unbias information is available for the decision-maker.
I do remember in 1 HR interview, the HR manager asked me this question, "why do you want to be in HR?....If I had the choice I would never had step in. It is a thankless job, so why do you want to be in HR?"
Thankless as it by be, I personally sleep better knowing I did my best to help a situation improve.
Regards
Noel
From Malaysia, Johor Bahru
Hi Psyched,
I totally agree with you coz this is the model followed at our organisation to such an extend that when one of the employee went to the HR informing him of not being assigned any clear job responsibility the HR's response was " You are getting your salary every month no?"
Some Human Resource Development :roll: :roll: :roll:
Personally this is the reason I hate our HR dept. I wouldnt call it a universal phenomenon but .........
From India, Bangalore
I totally agree with you coz this is the model followed at our organisation to such an extend that when one of the employee went to the HR informing him of not being assigned any clear job responsibility the HR's response was " You are getting your salary every month no?"
Some Human Resource Development :roll: :roll: :roll:
Personally this is the reason I hate our HR dept. I wouldnt call it a universal phenomenon but .........
From India, Bangalore
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