Hi, I joined an organization and left it in 27 days. I was a rehire in that organization, but because of personal reasons, I had to make a move to another firm. I resigned without serving the notice period, as I was in training and not aware of who my manager was. I took the trainer's help and contacted a PM who was supposed to be my manager if I had stayed in the company. I had a chat with him and explained everything regarding my resignation. I gave him my contact details in the resignation email for further communication and forwarded the same email to the HR mailbox.
It has been a month now, and I have been moving in circles to get my relieving letter and F&F statements. Nobody responds properly, and they say they have treated it as a case of absconding or involuntary exit. I contacted the manager with whom I discussed my resignation, and he now says he is not the concerned person to talk to. He suggested talking to the HR and the resource manager (as I was in training).
What can I do in this case as I have already missed my joining date by a month? Somehow, I have kept the offer on hold. Also, if that person was not the concerned manager, why did he initially take my interview regarding my resignation? He never informed me, nor did the HR, that he is not my manager and that the real manager, who is responsible for starting the termination process, doesn't know everything about my resignation. I am mentally and physically exhausted from following up with these individuals for my relieving letter and other documents, and I never receive a positive response.
Also, can you please differentiate between absconding and involuntary exit processes? I mean, how does the company treat the employee in such cases? I am in need, and I would appreciate it if you could reply ASAP.
Kind regards,
Deepak
From India, Madras
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It has been a month now, and I have been moving in circles to get my relieving letter and F&F statements. Nobody responds properly, and they say they have treated it as a case of absconding or involuntary exit. I contacted the manager with whom I discussed my resignation, and he now says he is not the concerned person to talk to. He suggested talking to the HR and the resource manager (as I was in training).
What can I do in this case as I have already missed my joining date by a month? Somehow, I have kept the offer on hold. Also, if that person was not the concerned manager, why did he initially take my interview regarding my resignation? He never informed me, nor did the HR, that he is not my manager and that the real manager, who is responsible for starting the termination process, doesn't know everything about my resignation. I am mentally and physically exhausted from following up with these individuals for my relieving letter and other documents, and I never receive a positive response.
Also, can you please differentiate between absconding and involuntary exit processes? I mean, how does the company treat the employee in such cases? I am in need, and I would appreciate it if you could reply ASAP.
Kind regards,
Deepak
From India, Madras
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Please check with HR and your offer letter for terms and condition and pay your notice period and get relieved with documentation
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The same thing was discussed in the thread "Full and Final Settlement" in this forum itself. Please view the postings. Regards, Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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Dear Friend,
No need to serve notice period as it is clear that you have joined recently and are not a confirmed employee. Furthermore, you can show your new employer the appointment letter as proof of your previous employment. As you have worked for a very short period, you can convince your new employer regarding the unavailability of a relieving letter. Full and final settlement is the right of an employee, and while an employer can delay it, they cannot deny it.
With regards,
Nitin
From India, Pune
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No need to serve notice period as it is clear that you have joined recently and are not a confirmed employee. Furthermore, you can show your new employer the appointment letter as proof of your previous employment. As you have worked for a very short period, you can convince your new employer regarding the unavailability of a relieving letter. Full and final settlement is the right of an employee, and while an employer can delay it, they cannot deny it.
With regards,
Nitin
From India, Pune
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Since its a very short period, you can very well convince your employer that they dont issue relieving letter since you have been with the company for only three weeks.
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Thanks, Nitin and Shijit,
This is the only choice I have now since it will take a month from now for my previous employer to hand me the letter and complete my exit process. It has already been a month since I resigned, and now they want me to wait for one more month to get the letters! I am trying to convince the new employer, fingers crossed!! Your replies eased me a bit as I am worried and tensed since the past month :(, as to what will happen in the future...
From India, Madras
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This is the only choice I have now since it will take a month from now for my previous employer to hand me the letter and complete my exit process. It has already been a month since I resigned, and now they want me to wait for one more month to get the letters! I am trying to convince the new employer, fingers crossed!! Your replies eased me a bit as I am worried and tensed since the past month :(, as to what will happen in the future...
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wud it not be possible to say that u were not employed anywhere ? after all, it a matter of 27 days......
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Dear Deepak,
Whilst on probation, 1-7 days' notice has to be given (if some clause is mentioned in your appointment letter about giving notice in the probation period). Just check if anything has been mentioned about this.
Generally, a person can be relieved even within a day or two if he/she has joined the organization recently, just like in your case. The employee has to inform and give in writing that he/she would like to be relieved from services from so-and-so date, etc.
It depends from company to company; some organizations accept immediate resignations, some don't, like in my organization, even in the probation period we need to give a full one-month notice. If we go without informing the company, we will not get any relieving letters, no salary, or settlement will be done for the days worked. If we give say a 15-day notice, they will deduct 15 days' notice period salary and then do full and final settlement.
In your case, it would be hard to state now if at all you will get paid for the days you worked looking at the condition in which you left. Have you given anything in writing or was it just a verbal communication? F & F can not only be delayed but can be denied also if the management decides so - for two reasons: first of all, you were not confirmed (on probation), and second - if any such clause is mentioned in the appointment letter terms.
To conclude, this case may not be in your favor as you left the organization within a month of its joining. I hope you are aware of how much pain an HR person takes to recruit one candidate in the organization, and after all the procedure, someone leaves like this, management will straightaway deny F & F.
Hope I was able to explain a bit clearly...
Best wishes,
Ambika Kamath
From India, Mumbai
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Whilst on probation, 1-7 days' notice has to be given (if some clause is mentioned in your appointment letter about giving notice in the probation period). Just check if anything has been mentioned about this.
Generally, a person can be relieved even within a day or two if he/she has joined the organization recently, just like in your case. The employee has to inform and give in writing that he/she would like to be relieved from services from so-and-so date, etc.
It depends from company to company; some organizations accept immediate resignations, some don't, like in my organization, even in the probation period we need to give a full one-month notice. If we go without informing the company, we will not get any relieving letters, no salary, or settlement will be done for the days worked. If we give say a 15-day notice, they will deduct 15 days' notice period salary and then do full and final settlement.
In your case, it would be hard to state now if at all you will get paid for the days you worked looking at the condition in which you left. Have you given anything in writing or was it just a verbal communication? F & F can not only be delayed but can be denied also if the management decides so - for two reasons: first of all, you were not confirmed (on probation), and second - if any such clause is mentioned in the appointment letter terms.
To conclude, this case may not be in your favor as you left the organization within a month of its joining. I hope you are aware of how much pain an HR person takes to recruit one candidate in the organization, and after all the procedure, someone leaves like this, management will straightaway deny F & F.
Hope I was able to explain a bit clearly...
Best wishes,
Ambika Kamath
From India, Mumbai
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Deepak,
Try to convince your new employer by explaining that the previous organization is causing trouble by refusing to provide the relieving letters due to your short tenure there. If the new organization is eager to have you on board, they should not be concerned about this issue. Additionally, they can retain your appointment letter, as mentioned by another HR member, in their records as proof of your brief employment elsewhere. Please inform me of the final outcome.
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Ambika Kamath
From India, Mumbai
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Try to convince your new employer by explaining that the previous organization is causing trouble by refusing to provide the relieving letters due to your short tenure there. If the new organization is eager to have you on board, they should not be concerned about this issue. Additionally, they can retain your appointment letter, as mentioned by another HR member, in their records as proof of your brief employment elsewhere. Please inform me of the final outcome.
Regards,
Ambika Kamath
From India, Mumbai
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Hi Ambika,
Thanks for replying. I did give the resignation in writing to the manager whom I was told to report to at that point in time and also forwarded the same to HR. I was ready to pay 15 days' salary amount as a part of not serving the notice period. I had some personal reasons for not completing the notice period, which I discussed with the manager, and he was convinced of that. I will try to convince my new employer. Yeah, I will let you know.
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Thanks for replying. I did give the resignation in writing to the manager whom I was told to report to at that point in time and also forwarded the same to HR. I was ready to pay 15 days' salary amount as a part of not serving the notice period. I had some personal reasons for not completing the notice period, which I discussed with the manager, and he was convinced of that. I will try to convince my new employer. Yeah, I will let you know.
From India, Madras
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