Dear All,
This is a Forwarded Message from NHRD i am posting it here Behalf of MR.Karthekeyan I specifies Mr.Karthikeyan
I have known Rajarajeswaran since 80s. He was my college senior at PSG, Coimbatore. A light hearted, warm and humorous person who always broke the barriers of age and seniority and was very cordial with all of us.
I spoke to him last week, when he came to chennai for his daughter's admission. I couldn't honor my commitment to see him. It was just with the faith that i can see him during his next visit. Fate has the last laugh. Crudely.
The news came as a forwarded message from a common friend. On exploration, it was known that he was killed by a suspended employee. Another Roy George.
My intention of this email to the group is not just to share my feelings, but to share some questions/insights emerged out of deep introspection.
How safe are HR Professionals? Is the label HR Professional right? Are we still IR Managers with glorious label? What has been the response of professional community and bodies, so far on these murders? Apart from condolence meetings?
What has been the learnings shared? Why these cases are not discussed as much as "success stories"? Are they not survival tips for co professionals?
What is the impact of all this on the respective employers? Have the ER Climate improved? Apart from compensation to family and replacement with another "tough" guy, what has been the learning?
And for HR professionals…
Are we not understanding the changing face of workmen and realigning our styles and strategies?
Are we not communicating adequately and building trust and compassion which would be bedrock of enduring relationships during crisis?
Are we not 'really' people sensitive? Are we just “rule book" driven officers?
Are we not genuine and fair in our dealings?
Are we not receiving enough information, guidance and support from co-professionals?
__________________________________________________ _______
Dear HR Veterans
Rajarajeswaran's murder should be seen as "wake up call" to discuss these professional issues.
Now please Think a head and Give an absolute solution in forefront to avoid such incidents i am sharing it here to create the awareness of our Profession ....
__________________________________________________ _______
Regards,
Ramkishore
Manager-HR
From India, Bangalore
53This is a Forwarded Message from NHRD i am posting it here Behalf of MR.Karthekeyan I specifies Mr.Karthikeyan
I have known Rajarajeswaran since 80s. He was my college senior at PSG, Coimbatore. A light hearted, warm and humorous person who always broke the barriers of age and seniority and was very cordial with all of us.
I spoke to him last week, when he came to chennai for his daughter's admission. I couldn't honor my commitment to see him. It was just with the faith that i can see him during his next visit. Fate has the last laugh. Crudely.
The news came as a forwarded message from a common friend. On exploration, it was known that he was killed by a suspended employee. Another Roy George.
My intention of this email to the group is not just to share my feelings, but to share some questions/insights emerged out of deep introspection.
How safe are HR Professionals? Is the label HR Professional right? Are we still IR Managers with glorious label? What has been the response of professional community and bodies, so far on these murders? Apart from condolence meetings?
What has been the learnings shared? Why these cases are not discussed as much as "success stories"? Are they not survival tips for co professionals?
What is the impact of all this on the respective employers? Have the ER Climate improved? Apart from compensation to family and replacement with another "tough" guy, what has been the learning?
And for HR professionals…
Are we not understanding the changing face of workmen and realigning our styles and strategies?
Are we not communicating adequately and building trust and compassion which would be bedrock of enduring relationships during crisis?
Are we not 'really' people sensitive? Are we just “rule book" driven officers?
Are we not genuine and fair in our dealings?
Are we not receiving enough information, guidance and support from co-professionals?
__________________________________________________ _______
Dear HR Veterans
Rajarajeswaran's murder should be seen as "wake up call" to discuss these professional issues.
Now please Think a head and Give an absolute solution in forefront to avoid such incidents i am sharing it here to create the awareness of our Profession ....
__________________________________________________ _______
Regards,
Ramkishore
Manager-HR
From India, Bangalore
This is the Reply i gave to Mr.Karthikeyan
Dear Karthikeyan Ranganathan,
Those who bloom in the Hearts of others like your senior never fade Away... May you find comfort and strength In your memories of him i sincerely pray for him let his soul to rest in peace...... As state by you definitely what ever the IR is but it is not the cost of a life we are the most passionate department's in the company as what ever the problem occur's it reflect's HR straight away....... so we should be a good strategic player BTW Management & Worker's we should let the game play to safer side either not affecting Employees, Management and Our self as we deal directly as Glorious manager's....
As you Rightly said this should be the wake-up call for all the HR's so we should be very careful in Dealing with the people’s We have only one life to act to safeguard our family member’s we are not Down to Earth, we talk about this incident and extend our solidarity with the HR fraternity. I would request you to give wide publicity in all the HR Communities and pass a resolution for an early suitable action from the State Government. Also we must show respect to the departed soul by observing 2 mintues silence in our next meeting and send a condolence note to the family of late
This is the Reply i gave him i expect all your views and perception and Suggestions.......
Regards,
Ramkishore
Manager-HR
From India, Bangalore
Dear Karthikeyan Ranganathan,
Those who bloom in the Hearts of others like your senior never fade Away... May you find comfort and strength In your memories of him i sincerely pray for him let his soul to rest in peace...... As state by you definitely what ever the IR is but it is not the cost of a life we are the most passionate department's in the company as what ever the problem occur's it reflect's HR straight away....... so we should be a good strategic player BTW Management & Worker's we should let the game play to safer side either not affecting Employees, Management and Our self as we deal directly as Glorious manager's....
As you Rightly said this should be the wake-up call for all the HR's so we should be very careful in Dealing with the people’s We have only one life to act to safeguard our family member’s we are not Down to Earth, we talk about this incident and extend our solidarity with the HR fraternity. I would request you to give wide publicity in all the HR Communities and pass a resolution for an early suitable action from the State Government. Also we must show respect to the departed soul by observing 2 mintues silence in our next meeting and send a condolence note to the family of late
This is the Reply i gave him i expect all your views and perception and Suggestions.......
Regards,
Ramkishore
Manager-HR
From India, Bangalore
With all due respect to Late Mr. Rajarajeswaran.....
I would only say that there were these kind of cases where there were lot of industrial disputes, but after the establishment of trade unions and gross development in the field of HR these kind of cases have been registered less in number. Only in rarest of rare cases it happens and in many of the cases reasons turn out differently after examination. Yes, HRs need to develop more empathy and keep good employee relations. Again it doesn't mean being lenient hence has to follow the rules and regulations, that calls for DIPLOMACY.
There has been the wake-up calls; intervention of the government is also active since it's been a three tire system : Employer-Employee-government. It was almost pathetic and was a major crime sector but today its reduced to the maximum extent, this is very much clear from the history and development industrial relations/labour laws.
Regards,
BSSV
From India, Bangalore
I would only say that there were these kind of cases where there were lot of industrial disputes, but after the establishment of trade unions and gross development in the field of HR these kind of cases have been registered less in number. Only in rarest of rare cases it happens and in many of the cases reasons turn out differently after examination. Yes, HRs need to develop more empathy and keep good employee relations. Again it doesn't mean being lenient hence has to follow the rules and regulations, that calls for DIPLOMACY.
There has been the wake-up calls; intervention of the government is also active since it's been a three tire system : Employer-Employee-government. It was almost pathetic and was a major crime sector but today its reduced to the maximum extent, this is very much clear from the history and development industrial relations/labour laws.
Regards,
BSSV
From India, Bangalore
Dear BSSV,
As per you there are less cases we came acrss but think how many cases would have not came out lots of Threatens, Assault's , so on.....Like if we have empathy also the employee's react in a way that HR's have done it but practically it's Management my question is we have Empathy, Sympathy towards the situation/Employee/Unions/Contractors////....Government is Awake but practically think a head the trend is changing as the contract worker's may get over soon again we should defniely take Employees into Roles and ultimately the IR Shines in future and the Incident happens more in forefront.....
None of us can forget the brutal murder of Mr.Roy J.George, VP (HR), Pricol Limited, Coimbatore in 2009 during a labor unrest. and now Mr. Rajeshwaran, coimbatore Madras Cement and in Recent years there was many assault for GM-HR/HR-Managers/IR Managers so what i am requesting is like do we have a solution to this HR Veteran's please find some solution for this because is suspension a cost of Life??
Regards,
RamKishore
From India, Bangalore
As per you there are less cases we came acrss but think how many cases would have not came out lots of Threatens, Assault's , so on.....Like if we have empathy also the employee's react in a way that HR's have done it but practically it's Management my question is we have Empathy, Sympathy towards the situation/Employee/Unions/Contractors////....Government is Awake but practically think a head the trend is changing as the contract worker's may get over soon again we should defniely take Employees into Roles and ultimately the IR Shines in future and the Incident happens more in forefront.....
None of us can forget the brutal murder of Mr.Roy J.George, VP (HR), Pricol Limited, Coimbatore in 2009 during a labor unrest. and now Mr. Rajeshwaran, coimbatore Madras Cement and in Recent years there was many assault for GM-HR/HR-Managers/IR Managers so what i am requesting is like do we have a solution to this HR Veteran's please find some solution for this because is suspension a cost of Life??
Regards,
RamKishore
From India, Bangalore
Hi,
When it comes to Industrial Relations, the only effective way is the legal action. I need not mention that it is highly difficult to make the labourers understand the things in the way it's intended and they neither pay good attention to understand the matters nor they do realise any expected behavioral approaches. But, the step could be taken is to establish/appoint a legal supervisor to keep the workers alert all the time... infact the labourers if they want to react positively then it is only to the additional bonuses and if they positive fear then its for law..... you can deal them with emotion but have to treat them through law......... its psychology, towards their ability of understanding and coordination, you shall neither control them and dominate nor leave them without controlling and dominating, its like too much is too bad, supervising is always helpful, so that you do not punish them but they will have the fear of punishment for their misconduct.........(labourers do fear for legal actions within and blindly too many times...)
From India, Bangalore
When it comes to Industrial Relations, the only effective way is the legal action. I need not mention that it is highly difficult to make the labourers understand the things in the way it's intended and they neither pay good attention to understand the matters nor they do realise any expected behavioral approaches. But, the step could be taken is to establish/appoint a legal supervisor to keep the workers alert all the time... infact the labourers if they want to react positively then it is only to the additional bonuses and if they positive fear then its for law..... you can deal them with emotion but have to treat them through law......... its psychology, towards their ability of understanding and coordination, you shall neither control them and dominate nor leave them without controlling and dominating, its like too much is too bad, supervising is always helpful, so that you do not punish them but they will have the fear of punishment for their misconduct.........(labourers do fear for legal actions within and blindly too many times...)
From India, Bangalore
Well said Definitely Labour Emotion may lead to positive approach & controlling them should be there but not dominating this applies in many situation's I accept it 100%....I look forward for Improvements from all the member's to handle the future IR Issues.......
Regards,
Ramkishore
From India, Bangalore
Regards,
Ramkishore
From India, Bangalore
hi.. im purnima rajarajeswaran from the late family of K.G.RAJA RAJESWARAN, thanks for ur deep condolences..well im proud to be my daddy’s girl..he was a "man of principles".... regards purnima
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
Dear Purnima....
With this HR fraternity over here we salute to your father and we pray to rest his soul in peace and Praying god to give you all the Support,health, & boldness of your dad to reflect in you for being in HR i feel proud by seeing your dad....Thanks a lot purnima All the very best for your future and Comeback...... Please ensure that the Employees involving in this should get punishment for their life sentence.....
Regards,
Ramkishore
From India, Bangalore
With this HR fraternity over here we salute to your father and we pray to rest his soul in peace and Praying god to give you all the Support,health, & boldness of your dad to reflect in you for being in HR i feel proud by seeing your dad....Thanks a lot purnima All the very best for your future and Comeback...... Please ensure that the Employees involving in this should get punishment for their life sentence.....
Regards,
Ramkishore
From India, Bangalore
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