Hi,
I have been working in the HR field from past 11 months, I have realised that it is quite a thankless job, irrespective of what one does some one or the other is unhappy.
I believe in sincerity and hard work .... and i know that there are many out their who follow the same.... for people like us at time such an attitude becomes difficult to handle.
Eg you are at the coffee machine just gettig a break you were supposed to take but couldn't due to some work...... suddenly you here a voice.... "HR people just have fun.....they are being paid for doing nothing MUCH" i have gradually learnt to ignore such situations but at times it does irk me... esp when i know i have really done my share of work to take a break
Do any of you guys face similar situation where HR is the butt of the employees jokes, if yes Can you let me know how you handle them without losing your cool
Regards
Shalini
From India, Mumbai
I have been working in the HR field from past 11 months, I have realised that it is quite a thankless job, irrespective of what one does some one or the other is unhappy.
I believe in sincerity and hard work .... and i know that there are many out their who follow the same.... for people like us at time such an attitude becomes difficult to handle.
Eg you are at the coffee machine just gettig a break you were supposed to take but couldn't due to some work...... suddenly you here a voice.... "HR people just have fun.....they are being paid for doing nothing MUCH" i have gradually learnt to ignore such situations but at times it does irk me... esp when i know i have really done my share of work to take a break
Do any of you guys face similar situation where HR is the butt of the employees jokes, if yes Can you let me know how you handle them without losing your cool
Regards
Shalini
From India, Mumbai
In HR usually our efforts goes thankless and I always give this example to motivate my team,
A well-known speaker started off his seminar by holding up $100.
In the room of around two hundred persons, he asked, "Who would like this $100?".
Hands started going up. He said, "I am going to give this note to one of you, but first let me do this." He proceeded to crumple the note up.
He then asked, "Who still wants it?". Still the hands were up in the air.
"Well," he replied, "What if I do this?" and he dropped it on the ground and started to grind it into the floor with his shoe. He picked it up, now all crumpled and dirty. "Now who still wants it?" still the hands went into the air.
"My friends, you have all learned a very valuable lesson. No matter what I did to the money, you still wanted it because it did not decrease in value. It was still worth $100/-."
Many times in our lives, we are dropped, crumpled, and ground into the dirt by the decisions we make and the circumstances that come our way. We feel as though we are worthless. But no matter what has happened or what will happen, you will never lose your value.
You are special. Don't ever forget it !!
Never let yesterday's disappointments overshadow tomorrow's dreams.
" VALUE HAS A VALUE ONLY IF ITS VALUE IS VALUED"
Cheer up!
From India, Mumbai
A well-known speaker started off his seminar by holding up $100.
In the room of around two hundred persons, he asked, "Who would like this $100?".
Hands started going up. He said, "I am going to give this note to one of you, but first let me do this." He proceeded to crumple the note up.
He then asked, "Who still wants it?". Still the hands were up in the air.
"Well," he replied, "What if I do this?" and he dropped it on the ground and started to grind it into the floor with his shoe. He picked it up, now all crumpled and dirty. "Now who still wants it?" still the hands went into the air.
"My friends, you have all learned a very valuable lesson. No matter what I did to the money, you still wanted it because it did not decrease in value. It was still worth $100/-."
Many times in our lives, we are dropped, crumpled, and ground into the dirt by the decisions we make and the circumstances that come our way. We feel as though we are worthless. But no matter what has happened or what will happen, you will never lose your value.
You are special. Don't ever forget it !!
Never let yesterday's disappointments overshadow tomorrow's dreams.
" VALUE HAS A VALUE ONLY IF ITS VALUE IS VALUED"
Cheer up!
From India, Mumbai
because not every HR is like u sincere and hardworking, there are also many HR who are lazy, and dont do any work, and have fun.
You think the other employees are fools to state HR dont do any work, the fact is that in many companies the only Dept that closes at 5 or closing time is the HR dept. Uneducated HR professionals having no technical knowledge are doing performance appraisal of software engineers, manufacturing persons, which makes them hate HR, as the HR doesnt know the real field situation, and there is also a conception about HR, HR does only big big paper work and nothing else.
while recruitment HR brings only their PETS, and does not give opportunity to hardworking genuine persons who are in need of job.
I am not stating that you do this, but many HR do this, I may even reply comments on this post of mine asking me to get out from this community, or stop posting stuff etc etce etc.
But how many people will you tell, me, and then the persons in your office who taunted at you at the cofee machine, where u were having coffee after a hard work, but for them ur just timepassing in office.
Look, there are many corrupt people in HR, who misuse thier job, dont do work and laze in office, keeping watch on who does what, and if they personally like dislike someone, then they either promote or terminate the person.
So in short HR is full of corruption with only few honest people like YOU and ME, and we are not getting respect because of other corrupt HR.
From India, Pune
54You think the other employees are fools to state HR dont do any work, the fact is that in many companies the only Dept that closes at 5 or closing time is the HR dept. Uneducated HR professionals having no technical knowledge are doing performance appraisal of software engineers, manufacturing persons, which makes them hate HR, as the HR doesnt know the real field situation, and there is also a conception about HR, HR does only big big paper work and nothing else.
while recruitment HR brings only their PETS, and does not give opportunity to hardworking genuine persons who are in need of job.
I am not stating that you do this, but many HR do this, I may even reply comments on this post of mine asking me to get out from this community, or stop posting stuff etc etce etc.
But how many people will you tell, me, and then the persons in your office who taunted at you at the cofee machine, where u were having coffee after a hard work, but for them ur just timepassing in office.
Look, there are many corrupt people in HR, who misuse thier job, dont do work and laze in office, keeping watch on who does what, and if they personally like dislike someone, then they either promote or terminate the person.
So in short HR is full of corruption with only few honest people like YOU and ME, and we are not getting respect because of other corrupt HR.
From India, Pune
Shalini,
we can understand. Every where it is like that only. But if you hear like in future just forward the below points to them.
If you’re not in HR, here are 10 reasons you should be happy that you know your friendly human resources professional.
Paychecks. You didn’t think that your pay was determined by little elves who then magically printed your check right month in and month out, did you?
Fairness. Sure, you complain about HR, but who’s the first one you run to when things don’t seem fair? You know.
Training. There are people you never even heard of in your company who work in Learning and Development. Know what they do? They design those training classes that help you advance your career.
Benefits. They “owe” you benefits, right? I don’t think so. A lot of HR pros spend countless hours toiling to make sure that your benefits go for the greater good. And, surprise, they haggle with insurance companies on your behalf.
Vacation. You might be surprised to find out that a company doesn’t have to offer vacation or pay you for it. HR pros work for you to make your time off policies be competitive, the best for you, and the most financially responsible for the company.
Disability. Sure, there are government mandates for disability, but there’s also HR in your corner helping you through your disability. You don’t call your manager when you have to go on long-term disability, do you?
Coworkers. Look left; look right. See those people working alongside you? Thank HR. They’re the ones who have to plan staffing and recruit candidates. Then they prepare the offer letter. Onboard the new people. Exit the bad ones.
Reviews. I know, you hate performance reviews. I do too. But guess what? If HR weren’t there to move performance reviews along, that schmuck that you’d been working next to for the last three years would still be there. Keep the goods ones and dump the bad ones. Who do you call? HR.
Increases. Sure, your manager makes decisions about your merit increase. But where did that money come from? HR compensation spends a lot of time making sure that money and headcount match. And they watch the market to make sure it’s fair. Result: More money in your pocket.
Bonuses. Hello, Bonus. Hey, isn’t that the most beautiful of seasons? Here’s the broken record, but guess who’s behind that glorious bonus check? You know it. Your friends in HR, who are watching competitive pay practices across the world and are talking about the business effects with managers. (Those of you who got huge stock option grants in the late 1990s should hit your knees every day and be thankful.)
ISIT?????
From India, Trivandrum
we can understand. Every where it is like that only. But if you hear like in future just forward the below points to them.
If you’re not in HR, here are 10 reasons you should be happy that you know your friendly human resources professional.
Paychecks. You didn’t think that your pay was determined by little elves who then magically printed your check right month in and month out, did you?
Fairness. Sure, you complain about HR, but who’s the first one you run to when things don’t seem fair? You know.
Training. There are people you never even heard of in your company who work in Learning and Development. Know what they do? They design those training classes that help you advance your career.
Benefits. They “owe” you benefits, right? I don’t think so. A lot of HR pros spend countless hours toiling to make sure that your benefits go for the greater good. And, surprise, they haggle with insurance companies on your behalf.
Vacation. You might be surprised to find out that a company doesn’t have to offer vacation or pay you for it. HR pros work for you to make your time off policies be competitive, the best for you, and the most financially responsible for the company.
Disability. Sure, there are government mandates for disability, but there’s also HR in your corner helping you through your disability. You don’t call your manager when you have to go on long-term disability, do you?
Coworkers. Look left; look right. See those people working alongside you? Thank HR. They’re the ones who have to plan staffing and recruit candidates. Then they prepare the offer letter. Onboard the new people. Exit the bad ones.
Reviews. I know, you hate performance reviews. I do too. But guess what? If HR weren’t there to move performance reviews along, that schmuck that you’d been working next to for the last three years would still be there. Keep the goods ones and dump the bad ones. Who do you call? HR.
Increases. Sure, your manager makes decisions about your merit increase. But where did that money come from? HR compensation spends a lot of time making sure that money and headcount match. And they watch the market to make sure it’s fair. Result: More money in your pocket.
Bonuses. Hello, Bonus. Hey, isn’t that the most beautiful of seasons? Here’s the broken record, but guess who’s behind that glorious bonus check? You know it. Your friends in HR, who are watching competitive pay practices across the world and are talking about the business effects with managers. (Those of you who got huge stock option grants in the late 1990s should hit your knees every day and be thankful.)
ISIT?????
From India, Trivandrum
Dear Mayura,
Employees say that HR is being paid for doing all the above,
I would have thanked if any HR is doing all above for free.
Employees want HR to realise that their job is equivalent to any other job, and not something special or thankworthy, and there is nothing for an HR to get discontented, if anyone is not thanking them.
HR gets paid for doing all the above mentioned activities, just like any other professional , so from now onwards, HR dont expect thanks to be said from employee, ur expecting too much.
then why the THANKS is needed, do you thank the Accounts person for his job, do you thank the software engineer for his job, then why THANKS is needed for HR, cant HR people do their job without expecting any thanks.
From India, Pune
Employees say that HR is being paid for doing all the above,
I would have thanked if any HR is doing all above for free.
Employees want HR to realise that their job is equivalent to any other job, and not something special or thankworthy, and there is nothing for an HR to get discontented, if anyone is not thanking them.
HR gets paid for doing all the above mentioned activities, just like any other professional , so from now onwards, HR dont expect thanks to be said from employee, ur expecting too much.
then why the THANKS is needed, do you thank the Accounts person for his job, do you thank the software engineer for his job, then why THANKS is needed for HR, cant HR people do their job without expecting any thanks.
From India, Pune
Dear Ravi,
Here I am not saying that for all activities HR has to be thanked. By they way all the people are paid in every job. But the utlimate aim of doing all these things are the employee satisfaction. We should maintain some level of expectation from every employee. If you dont have that thing then there is no use of having a HR person, even with out HR also people will live. Aim should be how you put things in a better and different way.
To know the satisfaction only every company do the survery on hr.
There for my opinion would be we need to do good things in a better way to get a good cheers from the employees.
Regards
Raj
From India, Trivandrum
Here I am not saying that for all activities HR has to be thanked. By they way all the people are paid in every job. But the utlimate aim of doing all these things are the employee satisfaction. We should maintain some level of expectation from every employee. If you dont have that thing then there is no use of having a HR person, even with out HR also people will live. Aim should be how you put things in a better and different way.
To know the satisfaction only every company do the survery on hr.
There for my opinion would be we need to do good things in a better way to get a good cheers from the employees.
Regards
Raj
From India, Trivandrum
Dear,
Well i been going your situation from long time since i am the only person in my branch office where i will be dealing with HR as well with Admin work i need to concentrate on both employee as well for my customers so i do get some tough time with my employees in some situation where they will be asking for permission and for leave i just cant give them and then they started commenting on us. The only way which i belive is that to have a good interaction with employees, i know it's tough job cause management will be watching over us but we are bridge between management and employees.
I can suggest you be friendly, interact with them try to have some training programme's where they can directly know you that you are a pice of work too. Dude this is our profession we know that people dont like HR's but we need to make them understand that HR is for the employees also. :wink:
From India, Madras
Well i been going your situation from long time since i am the only person in my branch office where i will be dealing with HR as well with Admin work i need to concentrate on both employee as well for my customers so i do get some tough time with my employees in some situation where they will be asking for permission and for leave i just cant give them and then they started commenting on us. The only way which i belive is that to have a good interaction with employees, i know it's tough job cause management will be watching over us but we are bridge between management and employees.
I can suggest you be friendly, interact with them try to have some training programme's where they can directly know you that you are a pice of work too. Dude this is our profession we know that people dont like HR's but we need to make them understand that HR is for the employees also. :wink:
From India, Madras
My senior who has guided me to take up this line has told me only one thing. " IF THERE ARE 100 EMPLOYEES IN YOUR ORGANISATION INCLUDING YOU, THEN MAKE UP YOUR MIND THAT 99 PEOPLE ARE WORKING FOR THE COMPANY AND ONLY ONE (YOU) IS WORKING FOR THE ENTIRE 99 PEOPLE. YOU TAKE CARE OF THEM, THEN THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF THE COMPANY"
With this in my mind, I have started my carrer,and whatever critisism comes then, take positive things in it if you have any mistakes accept it. If there is any negative things, then just igore it. It could explained in ENGLISH COMMUNICATION LANGUAGE AS:
Difference between Listening and Hearing. You may hear thousand noices at time. But you should listen to only one noice which you need to take it into your mind.
Cheer up.
Good day.
KRISHNARAJ P R
9840355204
From India, Madras
With this in my mind, I have started my carrer,and whatever critisism comes then, take positive things in it if you have any mistakes accept it. If there is any negative things, then just igore it. It could explained in ENGLISH COMMUNICATION LANGUAGE AS:
Difference between Listening and Hearing. You may hear thousand noices at time. But you should listen to only one noice which you need to take it into your mind.
Cheer up.
Good day.
KRISHNARAJ P R
9840355204
From India, Madras
Really very informative, I wld like 2 thank everybodywho have shared their views about the happenings in HR. I wld like tosuggest that it wld be better if we take up the issue in any forum for discussion & a permanent solution for the sake of all HR colleagues, & find a permanent solution to all the problems that HR people face in day 2 day work....
Pl reply/ xpress ur views/ suggestions in theis regard...
Praveen
From India, Davangere
Pl reply/ xpress ur views/ suggestions in theis regard...
Praveen
From India, Davangere
hey common. you seem to be overly disappointed. :o
do not loose. may be if you look at people who pass comments were one of those who does it with everybody. and regarding hr dpt, if u think that it has been more than required then start confornting them. after all they need you more than the orgn needs them. next time when they come up with a leave application, be tactical avoid taking it and they would learn a lesson. sipmle. :oops:
i am still persuing mba(hr) may be it is easy to say for me at this stage but dear it happens with that every position which have time bound activities.
and after all, try to manage their behaviors. be slighly outspoken, tell them it is cozy life out here in hr why the hell you did not take hr and got stuck up in ABC course... and they will not say anything again.
try out.. repsone awaited!!
From India, New Delhi
do not loose. may be if you look at people who pass comments were one of those who does it with everybody. and regarding hr dpt, if u think that it has been more than required then start confornting them. after all they need you more than the orgn needs them. next time when they come up with a leave application, be tactical avoid taking it and they would learn a lesson. sipmle. :oops:
i am still persuing mba(hr) may be it is easy to say for me at this stage but dear it happens with that every position which have time bound activities.
and after all, try to manage their behaviors. be slighly outspoken, tell them it is cozy life out here in hr why the hell you did not take hr and got stuck up in ABC course... and they will not say anything again.
try out.. repsone awaited!!
From India, New Delhi
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