I have a question regarding MODIFICATION of equipment. I know we cannot modify any equipment’s without manufacturer’s approval it’s clearly addressed on all Equipment’s/Machinery’s manuals.
Example: If company vehicle met an accident as per my understanding we cannot modify anything without manufacturer’s approval but in most of cases we do the modification WITHOUT manufacturer’s advice as long as we thought it’s safe to operate or work.
If any of our members have been in above mentioned situation?
Whatever it is if it comes to law the concerned person will be screwed up. How can we protect our company and employees from those situations?
From United States, Fpo
497Example: If company vehicle met an accident as per my understanding we cannot modify anything without manufacturer’s approval but in most of cases we do the modification WITHOUT manufacturer’s advice as long as we thought it’s safe to operate or work.
If any of our members have been in above mentioned situation?
Whatever it is if it comes to law the concerned person will be screwed up. How can we protect our company and employees from those situations?
From United States, Fpo
Dear Raghu
Instead of doing the modification in the equipment/machinery ourselves, we can approach the manufacturer for such modification and we can explain the situation which warrants such modification alongwith proper justification.
Of sure the manufacturer will help you in resolving the issue and it will be useful for the manufacturer to bring out the corrected model / version of the equipment / machinery.
From India, Kumbakonam
Instead of doing the modification in the equipment/machinery ourselves, we can approach the manufacturer for such modification and we can explain the situation which warrants such modification alongwith proper justification.
Of sure the manufacturer will help you in resolving the issue and it will be useful for the manufacturer to bring out the corrected model / version of the equipment / machinery.
From India, Kumbakonam
Dear Bhaskar,
I strongly agree with you. For Example: If our two wheeler meet an accident what we will do get him to nearest Workshop repair our vehicle (even we will WELD if required) without any manufacturer approved same thing happens in most of industries .....
Let's see any of our members view on this matter.
Thanks for your input sir.
From United States, Fpo
I strongly agree with you. For Example: If our two wheeler meet an accident what we will do get him to nearest Workshop repair our vehicle (even we will WELD if required) without any manufacturer approved same thing happens in most of industries .....
Let's see any of our members view on this matter.
Thanks for your input sir.
From United States, Fpo
Dear Raghu
Repairing the two wheeler and welding/soldering of some parts will not be considered as modification. If you modify the superstructure or make any modification in the engine without the concurrence and when it comes in the knowledge of the manufacturer then only the manufacturer will file case against you for modifying their product.
From India, Kumbakonam
Repairing the two wheeler and welding/soldering of some parts will not be considered as modification. If you modify the superstructure or make any modification in the engine without the concurrence and when it comes in the knowledge of the manufacturer then only the manufacturer will file case against you for modifying their product.
From India, Kumbakonam
Hello Raghu,
To elaborate S. Bhaskar's comments, the example you referred to was a 'maintenance' issue while you seem to be referring to a 'modification' issue.
Rather than discussing by way of examples, suggest mention the EXACT situation that you are facing--that would surely lead to a solution.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
To elaborate S. Bhaskar's comments, the example you referred to was a 'maintenance' issue while you seem to be referring to a 'modification' issue.
Rather than discussing by way of examples, suggest mention the EXACT situation that you are facing--that would surely lead to a solution.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Dear All,
Manufacturers need to specify as to what constitues modification.
In laymans terms any alteration which will hinder functioning/ put load beyond speficatin/damage the machinery/ may cause injury to operator, is to be avoided. These will absolve the manufacturer from warranty clause.
If modification is done for easy of use without tempering with moving/ electronic parts/basic programming then there should be no problem.
It is certainly advisable to seek clarification from manufacturer so that it does not make warranty null and void.
Regards,
Suresh Rathi
From India, Delhi
Manufacturers need to specify as to what constitues modification.
In laymans terms any alteration which will hinder functioning/ put load beyond speficatin/damage the machinery/ may cause injury to operator, is to be avoided. These will absolve the manufacturer from warranty clause.
If modification is done for easy of use without tempering with moving/ electronic parts/basic programming then there should be no problem.
It is certainly advisable to seek clarification from manufacturer so that it does not make warranty null and void.
Regards,
Suresh Rathi
From India, Delhi
Dear TS,
Just i came to know most of them having such kind of problems in construction business because most of them hiring a vehicles/equipment’s from vendor’s (rental) most of the local vendors having such kind of issue’s (Modifying equipment). Most of time we cannot address those issue’s during our inspection‘s as well. That’s why I raised this question.
Anyhow thanks for your input on this thread.
From United States, Fpo
Just i came to know most of them having such kind of problems in construction business because most of them hiring a vehicles/equipment’s from vendor’s (rental) most of the local vendors having such kind of issue’s (Modifying equipment). Most of time we cannot address those issue’s during our inspection‘s as well. That’s why I raised this question.
Anyhow thanks for your input on this thread.
From United States, Fpo
Dear Suresh Rathi,
Thanks for your input. Yes, Whenever we bought the equipment manufacture provide the manual which will clearly adress oall those modification related details.
Problem is most of he small scale industries or Rented vehicles having such kind of problems while we rent the vehicles.
Thanks for input.
Keep on touch
From United States, Fpo
Thanks for your input. Yes, Whenever we bought the equipment manufacture provide the manual which will clearly adress oall those modification related details.
Problem is most of he small scale industries or Rented vehicles having such kind of problems while we rent the vehicles.
Thanks for input.
Keep on touch
From United States, Fpo
Dear Raghu
In construction industry the Hydra Cranes are being used largely for shifting of materials from one place to another. But it is not safe to shift the same with Hydra. The Hydra can be used only for material loading and unloading by parking the hydra in one place (in static condition). The matter have been taken up with the Manufacturers. That's the reason they have modified the same and the latest version can be used for shifting the materials also. Wherever we face problem we have to inform the manufacturer and obviously the same will be rectified by the manufacturer.
The Transit Mixers made by Ashok Leyland Make with Bhai / Swing Stettor Transit mixer was developed with some crack in the main body which were purchased during 1988-89. But afterwards the same was rectified and now the TM coming in market are perfectly matching the requirement of the Construction Industry.
So, any modification in the superstructure must be made only by the manufacturers and not by the user. But as a part of maintenance and repair we can do rectify the same as per our requirement.
From India, Kumbakonam
In construction industry the Hydra Cranes are being used largely for shifting of materials from one place to another. But it is not safe to shift the same with Hydra. The Hydra can be used only for material loading and unloading by parking the hydra in one place (in static condition). The matter have been taken up with the Manufacturers. That's the reason they have modified the same and the latest version can be used for shifting the materials also. Wherever we face problem we have to inform the manufacturer and obviously the same will be rectified by the manufacturer.
The Transit Mixers made by Ashok Leyland Make with Bhai / Swing Stettor Transit mixer was developed with some crack in the main body which were purchased during 1988-89. But afterwards the same was rectified and now the TM coming in market are perfectly matching the requirement of the Construction Industry.
So, any modification in the superstructure must be made only by the manufacturers and not by the user. But as a part of maintenance and repair we can do rectify the same as per our requirement.
From India, Kumbakonam
Dear Raghu
Already good discussion taken place on your query... I thought of just adding up my inputs...
Many companies giving the AMC (Annual Maintenance Contract) to manufacture's of Heavy Earth Moving Vehicles. The representative of AMC will be present at site always... So whenever such kind of requirement for modification / repairing required, the AMC person will come in picture and he will do the rest.. So company employee will not be held responsible for any type of further issues...
But in normal Indian companies AMC and all not existing... They may be having their own mechanical workshop on which all such kind of modifications/repair taking place... This is the common practice in India....
Things may be different in your work place where you can think of AMC or always contacting manufactures to get it repaired and give clear instruction to all of your employees not entertain such kind of repairing internally...
From India
Already good discussion taken place on your query... I thought of just adding up my inputs...
Many companies giving the AMC (Annual Maintenance Contract) to manufacture's of Heavy Earth Moving Vehicles. The representative of AMC will be present at site always... So whenever such kind of requirement for modification / repairing required, the AMC person will come in picture and he will do the rest.. So company employee will not be held responsible for any type of further issues...
But in normal Indian companies AMC and all not existing... They may be having their own mechanical workshop on which all such kind of modifications/repair taking place... This is the common practice in India....
Things may be different in your work place where you can think of AMC or always contacting manufactures to get it repaired and give clear instruction to all of your employees not entertain such kind of repairing internally...
From India
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