Hi all,
I have taken up the HR responsibility for the company where at times I feel an admin person can do the needful. Reason:
There is lot of micromangement leading to delay in concrete decision
A lenient and soft outlook towards everything like policies, procedures, development activities, systems etc
Big talks of HR terminology but no strong headed desision are taken
I ended up following up for days with no concrete information.
I am feeling frustrated and feel like leaving but on second thoughts end up giving myself asecond chance. I do small bits of HR set up, read ,upgrade acquire information.
Now I need to know from seniors should I quit as I do not want to end up a stagnant one or should I stay back ?. There's no pressure to leave, perform or accountability. But I feel guilty of holding a senior position and not able to use my expertise effectively.
Please share your inputs :)
From India, Mumbai
80I have taken up the HR responsibility for the company where at times I feel an admin person can do the needful. Reason:
There is lot of micromangement leading to delay in concrete decision
A lenient and soft outlook towards everything like policies, procedures, development activities, systems etc
Big talks of HR terminology but no strong headed desision are taken
I ended up following up for days with no concrete information.
I am feeling frustrated and feel like leaving but on second thoughts end up giving myself asecond chance. I do small bits of HR set up, read ,upgrade acquire information.
Now I need to know from seniors should I quit as I do not want to end up a stagnant one or should I stay back ?. There's no pressure to leave, perform or accountability. But I feel guilty of holding a senior position and not able to use my expertise effectively.
Please share your inputs :)
From India, Mumbai
Dear Jhuma,
I won't suggest you to quit the job out of sheer frustration. The situation you have elaborate is prevailing in majority of industries. The HR guys have two masks. As and when he/she is outside the office, we wore HR masks and as and when within the factory premises we wore the mask of typical P & A and got engaged in disciplinary proceedings, grievance redressal, general administration etc.
Better wait for the right opportunity and switch to new job.
My best wishes are with you
From India, Gurgaon
I won't suggest you to quit the job out of sheer frustration. The situation you have elaborate is prevailing in majority of industries. The HR guys have two masks. As and when he/she is outside the office, we wore HR masks and as and when within the factory premises we wore the mask of typical P & A and got engaged in disciplinary proceedings, grievance redressal, general administration etc.
Better wait for the right opportunity and switch to new job.
My best wishes are with you
From India, Gurgaon
Dear Jhuma,
This is the tragedy of being in HR in India, especially if you happen to work in some SME. This is because business leaders in India never understood importance HR function. Neither will they understand in near future as well. I say so because large number of business owners are MBAs. When MBAs don't understand importance of HR who else will understand?
Yes job hopping could be solution but then what is the guarantee that you don't jump to fire from frying pan?
As a solution I can recommend you studying the systems and processes of your company and find out the gaps. Find out loss of revenue because of these gaps. Secondly, measure revenue loss because of gaps in "knowledge and skills' amongst employees. Make a business case out of this and present it to management. Just check whether this opens the eyes of your management. But then again you may end up in casting pearls before swine. In such case better jump to new job. Why to cast pearls before same swine again and again by the way? Find out a new one. At least you will have satisfaction of exercising multiple options for your pearls!
Ok...
DVD
From India, Bangalore
This is the tragedy of being in HR in India, especially if you happen to work in some SME. This is because business leaders in India never understood importance HR function. Neither will they understand in near future as well. I say so because large number of business owners are MBAs. When MBAs don't understand importance of HR who else will understand?
Yes job hopping could be solution but then what is the guarantee that you don't jump to fire from frying pan?
As a solution I can recommend you studying the systems and processes of your company and find out the gaps. Find out loss of revenue because of these gaps. Secondly, measure revenue loss because of gaps in "knowledge and skills' amongst employees. Make a business case out of this and present it to management. Just check whether this opens the eyes of your management. But then again you may end up in casting pearls before swine. In such case better jump to new job. Why to cast pearls before same swine again and again by the way? Find out a new one. At least you will have satisfaction of exercising multiple options for your pearls!
Ok...
DVD
From India, Bangalore
Thanks Apoorva and Dinesh for your feedback. I agree with dinesh that what’s the guarantee of a new assignment. Also job hopping would look bad on resume. Will keep you posted on the updates.
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Dear Jhuma Tiwade,
My views are going to be quite different from the rest. Recently i had returned home after undergoing SPIRITUAL RELIGIOUS TRAINING for 4 months. I had learnt few things during this training.
1) I cannot change my FATE which is PRE-WRITTEN by GOD. Whatever GOD WISHED, ONLY THAT THING WILL HAPPEN.
2) We can only work hard and rest it is in the hands of the GOD as he is the SOLE DECISION MAKER.
3) GOD is TESTING everyone and those who understood his moves can only succeed in his TEST.
4) We should always thank god whatsoever may be the situation and develop more patience levels.
5) We should never be TOO MUCH AMBITIOUS.
a) You need to understand your ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES and evaluate your DESIGNATION and POWERS.
b) You must be clear about "WHAT EXACTLY BOARD MEMBERS OR DIRECTOR OR TOP MANAGEMENT IS EXPECTING from you.
b) You can present your views/opinion to the TOP MANAGEMENT only when you are held ACCOUNTABLE for xyz thing(which falls under your purview). Till then, please carry with your job and think about your FAMILY. Incase, if you can survive without this job, better stay back home and enjoy your life with your FAMILY.
Let me share my past with you because people will only understand the facts when others had suffered in their life. I don't think so you will find a better case study than this one. I had paid a big price when i was holding the SECOND HIGHEST POSITION(CHIEF OFFICER OPERATIONS & ADMINISTRATION) in the HIERARCHY after PRESIDENT. At the time of appointment, my boss was very happy with me as i tried my best to explain him everything he asked me. i was not updated what to do and what not to do. I did my best for the organisation by all means which was a HISTORY. As on date, none tried to meet my TARGETS/PERFORMANCE and the SYSTEM which i established. My biggest mistake was "I TOOK EVERYTHING FOR GRANTED AND GAVE MORE PREFERENCE TO MY JOB/RESPONSIBILITIES THAN MY FAMILY". Later i was made to realized that, i was a RUBBER STAMP and I AM A JUST A EMPLOYEE LIKE OTHER EMPLOYEES THOUGH MY DESIGNATION & POWERS WERE EQUIVALENT TO THE PRESIDENT. I was told not to ACT SMART and NOT TO DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF MY BOSS. i was really embarrassed after doing a BIG JOB and everything was in the favour of organisation. I was AMBITIOUS but later lost complete interest and I couldn't digest the degradation in our relationship as i was expecting to serve/work with the BEST BOSS. I resigned and moved forward. If i had ignored everything, today i would have been drawing RS.1LAKH(BASIC).
I have no right to advice you but my sincere and humble suggestion is to "Try to understand the world and do not get EMOTIONAL in LIFE.
Whatever you are held responsible for, kindly execute it with honesty and loyalty. Rest leave it to the DECISION MAKERS/OWNERS.
Never try to be TOO MUCH AMBITIOUS. We should always be CALCULATIVE.
If you happen to work with the BEST BOSS who is Aggressive, Passionate, Visionary, Target/Goal oriented, Mentor/Coach, Matured, Experienced, Emotionally balanced etc, only then you can PRACTICALLY feel what you are.
Have a wonderful life.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
My views are going to be quite different from the rest. Recently i had returned home after undergoing SPIRITUAL RELIGIOUS TRAINING for 4 months. I had learnt few things during this training.
1) I cannot change my FATE which is PRE-WRITTEN by GOD. Whatever GOD WISHED, ONLY THAT THING WILL HAPPEN.
2) We can only work hard and rest it is in the hands of the GOD as he is the SOLE DECISION MAKER.
3) GOD is TESTING everyone and those who understood his moves can only succeed in his TEST.
4) We should always thank god whatsoever may be the situation and develop more patience levels.
5) We should never be TOO MUCH AMBITIOUS.
a) You need to understand your ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES and evaluate your DESIGNATION and POWERS.
b) You must be clear about "WHAT EXACTLY BOARD MEMBERS OR DIRECTOR OR TOP MANAGEMENT IS EXPECTING from you.
b) You can present your views/opinion to the TOP MANAGEMENT only when you are held ACCOUNTABLE for xyz thing(which falls under your purview). Till then, please carry with your job and think about your FAMILY. Incase, if you can survive without this job, better stay back home and enjoy your life with your FAMILY.
Let me share my past with you because people will only understand the facts when others had suffered in their life. I don't think so you will find a better case study than this one. I had paid a big price when i was holding the SECOND HIGHEST POSITION(CHIEF OFFICER OPERATIONS & ADMINISTRATION) in the HIERARCHY after PRESIDENT. At the time of appointment, my boss was very happy with me as i tried my best to explain him everything he asked me. i was not updated what to do and what not to do. I did my best for the organisation by all means which was a HISTORY. As on date, none tried to meet my TARGETS/PERFORMANCE and the SYSTEM which i established. My biggest mistake was "I TOOK EVERYTHING FOR GRANTED AND GAVE MORE PREFERENCE TO MY JOB/RESPONSIBILITIES THAN MY FAMILY". Later i was made to realized that, i was a RUBBER STAMP and I AM A JUST A EMPLOYEE LIKE OTHER EMPLOYEES THOUGH MY DESIGNATION & POWERS WERE EQUIVALENT TO THE PRESIDENT. I was told not to ACT SMART and NOT TO DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF MY BOSS. i was really embarrassed after doing a BIG JOB and everything was in the favour of organisation. I was AMBITIOUS but later lost complete interest and I couldn't digest the degradation in our relationship as i was expecting to serve/work with the BEST BOSS. I resigned and moved forward. If i had ignored everything, today i would have been drawing RS.1LAKH(BASIC).
I have no right to advice you but my sincere and humble suggestion is to "Try to understand the world and do not get EMOTIONAL in LIFE.
Whatever you are held responsible for, kindly execute it with honesty and loyalty. Rest leave it to the DECISION MAKERS/OWNERS.
Never try to be TOO MUCH AMBITIOUS. We should always be CALCULATIVE.
If you happen to work with the BEST BOSS who is Aggressive, Passionate, Visionary, Target/Goal oriented, Mentor/Coach, Matured, Experienced, Emotionally balanced etc, only then you can PRACTICALLY feel what you are.
Have a wonderful life.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
Thank you abdul for your personal insight. I hope that one decision did not held your career back.
You are true, after getting some getting some valuable inputs from this cite, I am looking at the whole situation with a lighter head and accept that we need to slow down at times. Growth can be lateral too. And as someone said even bad days give good experinces.
Thanks again.
From India, Mumbai
You are true, after getting some getting some valuable inputs from this cite, I am looking at the whole situation with a lighter head and accept that we need to slow down at times. Growth can be lateral too. And as someone said even bad days give good experinces.
Thanks again.
From India, Mumbai
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