Dear all
pls note that i m working in a production unit in Ludhiana and as u all know that in punjab a few days back there was some civil roits and due to that crefew was taken place at all over the major cities in pb. my problem is that our management has deductud the salary(for the month of MAY 2009 ) for that days in which we cannot come to office due to cerfew in city. So pls advice me if it is justify. or if yes then how can i justify it in front of my management as it is happening with all my staff members.(alleast 300 ) . pls reply urgently or our salary chques will be delivered to us . so pls reply before 6th .we dnot want to give deductions in our salaries.
Thanks
From India, Amritsar
pls note that i m working in a production unit in Ludhiana and as u all know that in punjab a few days back there was some civil roits and due to that crefew was taken place at all over the major cities in pb. my problem is that our management has deductud the salary(for the month of MAY 2009 ) for that days in which we cannot come to office due to cerfew in city. So pls advice me if it is justify. or if yes then how can i justify it in front of my management as it is happening with all my staff members.(alleast 300 ) . pls reply urgently or our salary chques will be delivered to us . so pls reply before 6th .we dnot want to give deductions in our salaries.
Thanks
From India, Amritsar
dear
i understand your problem and it was not possible to attend office but if you have not worked those days how employer will pay salary for these days ,if you have leave balance than managent should consider your leave.you can not justify your point ,why management should suffer ,once you have not work ,why to pay salary ,please see another angle also.no work no wages ,it is set principle.
these were my views ,waiting for others to reply.
regards
j s malik
From India, Delhi
167i understand your problem and it was not possible to attend office but if you have not worked those days how employer will pay salary for these days ,if you have leave balance than managent should consider your leave.you can not justify your point ,why management should suffer ,once you have not work ,why to pay salary ,please see another angle also.no work no wages ,it is set principle.
these were my views ,waiting for others to reply.
regards
j s malik
From India, Delhi
As per i concern that, in 300 employees some are present in their post and some are not due cerfew so ask the other empoyees how they are present in the plant when cerrfew is occured in ur city... so dear u have think in this point and agree with principle rules no work no wages..
From India, Ahmadabad
From India, Ahmadabad
I think the management is being a bit too harsh on this. If there was a curfew how do you expect anyone to come to work. It's not like I took an off and was staying at home and watching TV.
What if the employee had risked coming out of his home and had been injured or worse still, killed; would the management bear those costs and risks?
I think there needs to perspective in place on part of the management. There are situations in which some areas of a city maybe under curfew. But, there is a very real and pertinent danger involved in stepping out when the city maybe suffering from riots.
I would ask your management to reconsider their decision keeping this in perspective.
From India, Mumbai
What if the employee had risked coming out of his home and had been injured or worse still, killed; would the management bear those costs and risks?
I think there needs to perspective in place on part of the management. There are situations in which some areas of a city maybe under curfew. But, there is a very real and pertinent danger involved in stepping out when the city maybe suffering from riots.
I would ask your management to reconsider their decision keeping this in perspective.
From India, Mumbai
Acc to me, your employer should treat these curfew days as paid holidays. Being an employee even if one wishes to attend office, he/she couldn't since the curfew applied was preventing the employee from doing so. However i feel that your employer should have been considerate enough to understand the fact that had any employee tried to venture out of his/her house, he/she would've either been killed or put behind bars.
Your employer is harsh to consider the employees to attend office in such a risky situation.
From India, Mumbai
Your employer is harsh to consider the employees to attend office in such a risky situation.
From India, Mumbai
I agree with Venkatesh and talk to management, that we are not responsible for riots & to pass order for cerrfew, but all this this talk to management with positive & normal way. Regards Sandeep
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
Hi Ravi,
Once this thing happen to me also prior to this job i used to work for a Family driven business as HR Manager one day to due to carfew in city i came office late even though i have informed the office manager regarding this issue (office manager is bro in law to director) but as my other colleges were present in office on time i have been marked as absent for that day ( they all are using their own personal vehile and me was using public tranport carfew was affected more by the area i reside) i tried alot a to convince management because i left for office like other normal days but due to corfew i was late,
I was a female employee but management didn't consider my request , it was very wrong decision from management but we are emplyees not management not union we cant protest the only thing we can do to convince the management .
This is reality friend !!!!!!!
rest is upto u but please take stretegic decision , please take care that due to this small incident your work , attitude, efficiency should not be affected.
Take decision from mind not from heart
Regards
Shine
From India, Bhopal
Once this thing happen to me also prior to this job i used to work for a Family driven business as HR Manager one day to due to carfew in city i came office late even though i have informed the office manager regarding this issue (office manager is bro in law to director) but as my other colleges were present in office on time i have been marked as absent for that day ( they all are using their own personal vehile and me was using public tranport carfew was affected more by the area i reside) i tried alot a to convince management because i left for office like other normal days but due to corfew i was late,
I was a female employee but management didn't consider my request , it was very wrong decision from management but we are emplyees not management not union we cant protest the only thing we can do to convince the management .
This is reality friend !!!!!!!
rest is upto u but please take stretegic decision , please take care that due to this small incident your work , attitude, efficiency should not be affected.
Take decision from mind not from heart
Regards
Shine
From India, Bhopal
Hi
In this case I would like to ask Mr.J S Malik/ law experts what law says in such critical situations? When its not employees fault, employees are willing come to the office but because of external enviournmental problem they are not able to come. Because in emergency situations employees do donate their one or two days salary to affected areas like earthquake.
Is there anything mention in wages Act? which will guide organization how to deal with such situation.
Regards,
Aparna Sethi
From India, Salai
In this case I would like to ask Mr.J S Malik/ law experts what law says in such critical situations? When its not employees fault, employees are willing come to the office but because of external enviournmental problem they are not able to come. Because in emergency situations employees do donate their one or two days salary to affected areas like earthquake.
Is there anything mention in wages Act? which will guide organization how to deal with such situation.
Regards,
Aparna Sethi
From India, Salai
dear
i have givenmy views in ealrlier post but thinking that others will also suggest their views
because legally you can not claim wages for these days as you have not worked for these days.i read the answer few friends given that it should be paid holiday,it was beyond control of individual but we are not thinking employer point of view.
if some one has not worked ,employer have suffered in two ways no production and give payment without working ,does not seems to be justified.
emplyoee has not worked and not getting salary ,i donot thing any unjustification.
tks
j s malik
From India, Delhi
i have givenmy views in ealrlier post but thinking that others will also suggest their views
because legally you can not claim wages for these days as you have not worked for these days.i read the answer few friends given that it should be paid holiday,it was beyond control of individual but we are not thinking employer point of view.
if some one has not worked ,employer have suffered in two ways no production and give payment without working ,does not seems to be justified.
emplyoee has not worked and not getting salary ,i donot thing any unjustification.
tks
j s malik
From India, Delhi
Dear friends
I feel the employee should inform the management that
he is facing a curfew so he can not attend duty .And in such
a circumstance the management should try to arrange some
conveyence for its staff with the help of police.If this is not
possible then it is not the fault of employee and his absentism
should be treated as special case and should not cut the payment.
Because if the employee comes some how then how would he
return back in curfew to his house.Sorry but the police on roads will ask him to rush back home and his company magement will ask him to come to office.:-D
regards
Rajeev Dixit
From India, Bangalore
I feel the employee should inform the management that
he is facing a curfew so he can not attend duty .And in such
a circumstance the management should try to arrange some
conveyence for its staff with the help of police.If this is not
possible then it is not the fault of employee and his absentism
should be treated as special case and should not cut the payment.
Because if the employee comes some how then how would he
return back in curfew to his house.Sorry but the police on roads will ask him to rush back home and his company magement will ask him to come to office.:-D
regards
Rajeev Dixit
From India, Bangalore
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