there are no hard and fast rules. the general principle is
THE NECCESSITIES SHOULD FLOW DOWN TO UP AND THE DISCPLINE FROM UP O DOWN.
So it is for officers to set the standard in coming to office in time. Staying late or doing more than 9 hours work are all EXCUSES.
tHE HIGHER ranking oficers have to come in time to office. It is mental set up than the reasons. They gave to counselled for this appropriately.The perks and other benefits are all different the common employee. hence these things are also different. they should follow the rules.
In one of the Companyies where i worked, the Director and myself were only the people who come in time. we were appriciated by one and all.
True Example _ one of the companies the marketing Manager was also inchrage of HR for some time. He use to go outside with clients and come to factory after a drink or two. One day he asked an employee, who was drunk to go out of factory. The worker retorted by saying what is the differnce between them, u drink foreign and i drink country. the marketing manager waas shockesd. we have to be models in cases moral, character etc
nagaraj
From India, Bangalore
1THE NECCESSITIES SHOULD FLOW DOWN TO UP AND THE DISCPLINE FROM UP O DOWN.
So it is for officers to set the standard in coming to office in time. Staying late or doing more than 9 hours work are all EXCUSES.
tHE HIGHER ranking oficers have to come in time to office. It is mental set up than the reasons. They gave to counselled for this appropriately.The perks and other benefits are all different the common employee. hence these things are also different. they should follow the rules.
In one of the Companyies where i worked, the Director and myself were only the people who come in time. we were appriciated by one and all.
True Example _ one of the companies the marketing Manager was also inchrage of HR for some time. He use to go outside with clients and come to factory after a drink or two. One day he asked an employee, who was drunk to go out of factory. The worker retorted by saying what is the differnce between them, u drink foreign and i drink country. the marketing manager waas shockesd. we have to be models in cases moral, character etc
nagaraj
From India, Bangalore
Hi. If the company policy is clear on resumption time. This should then be made clear to d snr executive who are expected to lead by example. I believe d policy cuts across all cadre of staff. Exceptions should not be made to them as they likely approved d policy in d first place.
From Nigeria
From Nigeria
Hey, if these guys are putting in the required hours, it shouldnt be a problem. And if these guys are geeting away with it, then the chance of the Management being aware about this is quite high.
If you feel that others may follow suit which would hamper the working environment, then you can either tell the mgmt, the HODs and leave it for them to decide or put up a proposal for time management/ 'punching system'.
Hope it helps.
Rgds
From India, Visakhapatnam
If you feel that others may follow suit which would hamper the working environment, then you can either tell the mgmt, the HODs and leave it for them to decide or put up a proposal for time management/ 'punching system'.
Hope it helps.
Rgds
From India, Visakhapatnam
Punctuality is one of the vital pillars of general organisational discipline. This should not be flouted. If the organisation is not having a firm policy regarding flexi hours of work, some individuals enjoying the same is bound to irritate other employees and more so if the senior employees donot adhere to rules , they set bad example for others. The senior executives must lead by example and be good leaders. Further, overstaying unless warranted in extreme emergency should be viewed as inefficiency and employees must learn to complete their jobs in scheduled time. A course or training in Time Management would also help. Propagate the usefulness and importance of punctuality and the erring employees should be reprimanded unless they change their bad habits of late coming.
Be tactful and enforce this in the better interest of your organisation.
From India, Calcutta
Be tactful and enforce this in the better interest of your organisation.
From India, Calcutta
rules are made to follow , wether he is junior or senior, any one working beyond the normal working hours needs to look into his work culture and time management, staying over does not show efficency or loyality, may be he has other motives and problems too, the organisational head needs to look in to the matter.
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
Hi Niharika,
same prob we wr facing at our company....:icon7::(
Then we started daily monitoring of late comers...
and at the end of the month whole months data we use to send to concern HOD and GM...
and really works...
U can also try something like this if possible....
Deepa..
From India, Mumbai
same prob we wr facing at our company....:icon7::(
Then we started daily monitoring of late comers...
and at the end of the month whole months data we use to send to concern HOD and GM...
and really works...
U can also try something like this if possible....
Deepa..
From India, Mumbai
HR policies in an Organisation should be similar for everyone irrespective of their positions. There should not be any confusions in such cases. We all work with a common motive for an Organisation and hence the policies should be common for everyone. I understand that there are exceptions to few cases but the Office timings should be strictly followed by everyone. Not adhereing to the policies set by the Management is a misconduct. So, being a HR professional, it's we who has to keep a track and escalate such cases to the senior Management. Let the Sr. Management take a final call.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Regards,
Rachita
From India, Pune
Correct me if I am wrong.
Regards,
Rachita
From India, Pune
hi
to suceed punctuality is must, this is in the interest of any organisation, if they are going late shows that they are unable to manage time. Staying late is for covering their own incapability or for learning or to match incomplete goal that is theri headace.
if higher authorities are entering late their department functioning also may start late this will realy affect at large.
regards
abhijeet pawar
Mahindra Forgings Ltd
9822440053
From India, Mumbai
to suceed punctuality is must, this is in the interest of any organisation, if they are going late shows that they are unable to manage time. Staying late is for covering their own incapability or for learning or to match incomplete goal that is theri headace.
if higher authorities are entering late their department functioning also may start late this will realy affect at large.
regards
abhijeet pawar
Mahindra Forgings Ltd
9822440053
From India, Mumbai
Hi Niharika,
This is a universal issue faced by most of the Companies,to be very frank there is no proven solution for this because of the following reason
1. This activity is generally practicesed by those employees ,whose presence in the organisation is very important and he may be the key person or decision maker of there respective departments or section. Primiraly at lower level they are team leaders,group leaders ,A person with exceptional quality.
2.You must have or you may going to face a situation where you report of late coming to the higher management for a particular person and it will not be heard. If you will shout more about him or a group ,they will be just called by the higher authorities ,a warning at a frequency of six to nine months will be given to them, That is all. No strict action will be taken against them.
This generally happens everywhere and there is no way of eleminating especially ,those who are in the Technical sectioni.e Engineers,Foreman,chargeman,head,chief,etc.
I am telling you this is even tolerated in Company Like Tata Steel,TCE,Jindal,etc.
The Only way of reducing the no of late comings is by.
1. Once he or she comes late,you have to react immediately by showing a small anger or shouting in front of every body.
2.Advise your boss(helpless fellow,he cannot reduce late coming since the work has to be completed in time) that whenever he founds a mistake in the work of such employees those who have made a practice of late coming.While scruitinising his work in front of him ,he should always used the words like " Neither you complete your job in time nor you come to the office in time,you are a useless fellow".This formula actually works with most of the employee.
Actually the method stated above is doing the brain wash of such employees by embrassing him for such activity.
However if a human being is doing more then his commitement then his late coming can also be ignored.This i am telling you because some times back i was also a late comer for around 5 years after that i left the job started my own company and found the above method to be very productive
For my firm , i have made a formula of total no of wroking hours in a week.(Min 48,Max 56) So if somebody stays for a longer duration then that is adjusted with next days or we pay him for the duration extra if any.
I hope it may help you.
Regards,
Rahul Vijay
From India, Ranchi
This is a universal issue faced by most of the Companies,to be very frank there is no proven solution for this because of the following reason
1. This activity is generally practicesed by those employees ,whose presence in the organisation is very important and he may be the key person or decision maker of there respective departments or section. Primiraly at lower level they are team leaders,group leaders ,A person with exceptional quality.
2.You must have or you may going to face a situation where you report of late coming to the higher management for a particular person and it will not be heard. If you will shout more about him or a group ,they will be just called by the higher authorities ,a warning at a frequency of six to nine months will be given to them, That is all. No strict action will be taken against them.
This generally happens everywhere and there is no way of eleminating especially ,those who are in the Technical sectioni.e Engineers,Foreman,chargeman,head,chief,etc.
I am telling you this is even tolerated in Company Like Tata Steel,TCE,Jindal,etc.
The Only way of reducing the no of late comings is by.
1. Once he or she comes late,you have to react immediately by showing a small anger or shouting in front of every body.
2.Advise your boss(helpless fellow,he cannot reduce late coming since the work has to be completed in time) that whenever he founds a mistake in the work of such employees those who have made a practice of late coming.While scruitinising his work in front of him ,he should always used the words like " Neither you complete your job in time nor you come to the office in time,you are a useless fellow".This formula actually works with most of the employee.
Actually the method stated above is doing the brain wash of such employees by embrassing him for such activity.
However if a human being is doing more then his commitement then his late coming can also be ignored.This i am telling you because some times back i was also a late comer for around 5 years after that i left the job started my own company and found the above method to be very productive
For my firm , i have made a formula of total no of wroking hours in a week.(Min 48,Max 56) So if somebody stays for a longer duration then that is adjusted with next days or we pay him for the duration extra if any.
I hope it may help you.
Regards,
Rahul Vijay
From India, Ranchi
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