Hello,
Now this is a late entry compared to my last post here.
Mr. Jayesh Yohannan: That was an interesting debate, and I did learn a few useful things. And Sandeep - this would be the best message: Right talent for the right opportunity, coupled with the right attitude - makes it the perfect match.
As already quoted earlier: when we are looking at knowledge - why should we look at someone else when we already have people possessing knowledge in the "particular" industry we are hiring.
When availability is more/sufficient, I guess we can go in choosing what's the best available.
And there are also times when the availability is scarce. For example, I was once looking for Plot Sales. Here we have only owners of a huge portion of land doing the sales by themselves with known groups, or agents/brokers who do it on behalf of them. A very few good companies are in plot development (purely), and again the quality was not that great (like the kind of person we were looking at).
Something closer to this would have been Apartment/Residential houses salesperson, but we chose to go in for selecting Insurance or Mutual funds salesperson, who would have a good track record in the last 5 years and must be in a Manager position.
So if you see the above - it's again the availability and then the quality.
From India, Madras
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57Now this is a late entry compared to my last post here.
Mr. Jayesh Yohannan: That was an interesting debate, and I did learn a few useful things. And Sandeep - this would be the best message: Right talent for the right opportunity, coupled with the right attitude - makes it the perfect match.
As already quoted earlier: when we are looking at knowledge - why should we look at someone else when we already have people possessing knowledge in the "particular" industry we are hiring.
When availability is more/sufficient, I guess we can go in choosing what's the best available.
And there are also times when the availability is scarce. For example, I was once looking for Plot Sales. Here we have only owners of a huge portion of land doing the sales by themselves with known groups, or agents/brokers who do it on behalf of them. A very few good companies are in plot development (purely), and again the quality was not that great (like the kind of person we were looking at).
Something closer to this would have been Apartment/Residential houses salesperson, but we chose to go in for selecting Insurance or Mutual funds salesperson, who would have a good track record in the last 5 years and must be in a Manager position.
So if you see the above - it's again the availability and then the quality.
From India, Madras
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Dear All,
This discussion is sidetracking the major issue due to out-of-proportion essay and thesis writings by some members. HR is not marketing products, but marketing has HR strategies to recruit the best talent in marketing. Our discussion has prolonged due to a low IQ level.
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Partho
From Saudi Arabia
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This discussion is sidetracking the major issue due to out-of-proportion essay and thesis writings by some members. HR is not marketing products, but marketing has HR strategies to recruit the best talent in marketing. Our discussion has prolonged due to a low IQ level.
Kind Regards,
Partho
From Saudi Arabia
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Hi Partha,
I appreciate your observation because I also realized that this seems to be an abnormal discussion taking place on a subject which has limited HR scope for intervention, as described by you. We, as HR, believe in talent hunting, and if marketing is the subject, then as HR, we focus on his skills, strategic expertise in sales promotion, Product Knowledge and Product Application, Ability to discover Client Inventory, opening new accounts, success rate in closing deals, Presentation Skills, etc.
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Abraham
From Saudi Arabia
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I appreciate your observation because I also realized that this seems to be an abnormal discussion taking place on a subject which has limited HR scope for intervention, as described by you. We, as HR, believe in talent hunting, and if marketing is the subject, then as HR, we focus on his skills, strategic expertise in sales promotion, Product Knowledge and Product Application, Ability to discover Client Inventory, opening new accounts, success rate in closing deals, Presentation Skills, etc.
Regards,
Abraham
From Saudi Arabia
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Sandeep,
It's good you realized what's beneficial for you.
The best thing is, the point is that you have got motivated, that's what matters in the end. There may be some practical replies given by some HRs out here.
But my personal suggestion to you would be never to get demotivated anytime by any reply which may be practical but given in an unhealthy fashion.
It's not necessary what experience these people had or seen, it's everywhere. Some people are just limited to those old concepts of selection. Opportunities should be given to everyone, and then the best should be selected. But giving opportunities is very mandatory; that's my personal point.
Lectures and philosophies keep coming and going. In simple language, I would like to tell you to keep yourself open as per your interests and keep trying.
There are still good HR policies by some broad-minded HRs who are educated in a real sense. So keep your breath holding and never give up. Keep trying since sales have no limitations. Lots of jobs and lots of openings. Hope there would be some practical HRs rather than bookish ones.
Cheers,
Rashmi Bhalerao
From India, Mumbai
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It's good you realized what's beneficial for you.
The best thing is, the point is that you have got motivated, that's what matters in the end. There may be some practical replies given by some HRs out here.
But my personal suggestion to you would be never to get demotivated anytime by any reply which may be practical but given in an unhealthy fashion.
It's not necessary what experience these people had or seen, it's everywhere. Some people are just limited to those old concepts of selection. Opportunities should be given to everyone, and then the best should be selected. But giving opportunities is very mandatory; that's my personal point.
Lectures and philosophies keep coming and going. In simple language, I would like to tell you to keep yourself open as per your interests and keep trying.
There are still good HR policies by some broad-minded HRs who are educated in a real sense. So keep your breath holding and never give up. Keep trying since sales have no limitations. Lots of jobs and lots of openings. Hope there would be some practical HRs rather than bookish ones.
Cheers,
Rashmi Bhalerao
From India, Mumbai
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