Do YOU THINK HR HAS BEEN TREATED PROFESSIONALLY EVERY WHERE
NO WAY
WE GET PRESSURE FROM THE EMPLOYEES FOR MAKING POLICES WHICH THEY DON'T LIKE .ANYTHING GOES WRONG HR IS HOLD RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT SATISFYING EMPLOYEES .IF MANAGMENT WILL NOT ACCECPT THE FACT THAT WE ARE HUMAN .PEOPLE WILL LEAVE
From India, Mumbai
5NO WAY
WE GET PRESSURE FROM THE EMPLOYEES FOR MAKING POLICES WHICH THEY DON'T LIKE .ANYTHING GOES WRONG HR IS HOLD RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT SATISFYING EMPLOYEES .IF MANAGMENT WILL NOT ACCECPT THE FACT THAT WE ARE HUMAN .PEOPLE WILL LEAVE
From India, Mumbai
:D I am happy to see that everybody has been tough with the shaitan. But this shaitan has hit the nail on the head as I can see that everybody is hurt and everybody is upset that how he can be inconsiderate and allegations to the extent that the shaitan is not an HR professional as he does not understand what HR professional undergoes. Welll....... the shaitan is still a human!?! All allegations are done but no one has given an answer or a suggestion to the question. The question may not be a smart one, but it could be a genuine problem for somebody depending on the size of the company and the degree of rapport that has been built with others. Also it would matter when an HR resigns, if the HR person has given some major reasons to leaving employees in a desperate attempt to retain them. Normally everybody understands that everyone is a human being.
All said and done an "HR Professional" cannot give reasons like even we are humans, need bread and butter, etc if question is raised by employees. In my opinion, it can be said that I was looking for a different profile, my learning needs more space, or I really got such a wonderful offer that I could not say no, anything that you can think on similar lines, if asked "why are you (HR) leaving"
All said and done an "HR Professional" cannot give reasons like even we are humans, need bread and butter, etc if question is raised by employees. In my opinion, it can be said that I was looking for a different profile, my learning needs more space, or I really got such a wonderful offer that I could not say no, anything that you can think on similar lines, if asked "why are you (HR) leaving"
hey also to correct you HR does not make or get their joining and relieving by themselves
they also go through the same grind of interviews and rounds as any one else would... their rounds are supposedly more grilling as they are given "people responsibility"
so if you any grudges please dont make it so obvious against an entire group. Just because someone goes through a bad time does not mean he has pull other people into it and spread wrong vibes :-)
anyways take care
best wishes for your career :-)
they also go through the same grind of interviews and rounds as any one else would... their rounds are supposedly more grilling as they are given "people responsibility"
so if you any grudges please dont make it so obvious against an entire group. Just because someone goes through a bad time does not mean he has pull other people into it and spread wrong vibes :-)
anyways take care
best wishes for your career :-)
1. INDIVIDUAL BEHAVIOIUR SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS PROFESSIONALISM
2. RETENSION DOES COSTS, HR can advise, but not a sole decision maker on finance.
3. I've personally witnessed ( at my junior level ) that, my Boss - Hr- Mgr. seldomly, cares about his benefits.
NASEER
From Saudi Arabia, Al Khobar
2. RETENSION DOES COSTS, HR can advise, but not a sole decision maker on finance.
3. I've personally witnessed ( at my junior level ) that, my Boss - Hr- Mgr. seldomly, cares about his benefits.
NASEER
From Saudi Arabia, Al Khobar
Hi Friends,
I thought that i wont post again for this topic but had to :D
As told by one of our friend that nobody from us tried understanding Mr Shitan's opinion n felt bad n hurt, Yes i did coz i have given good years of my carrer of my life actually for this profession n on top of it there is always a right way to put across ur view, opinion or suggestion, nobody has the right to put his query in such a manner that hurts so many people.
And the reason i say he doesn't belong to HR it seems coz the normal thing that how can u politely ask for suggestion lacks in his post.
N when we say even we r human n can decide to leave the job for bread n butter... it was for our knowledge not to give to our employees.
We r mature people ,handling responsible positions n we sud know hoe to clear our query without hurting others sentiments...
cheers
anisha
From India, Mumbai
I thought that i wont post again for this topic but had to :D
As told by one of our friend that nobody from us tried understanding Mr Shitan's opinion n felt bad n hurt, Yes i did coz i have given good years of my carrer of my life actually for this profession n on top of it there is always a right way to put across ur view, opinion or suggestion, nobody has the right to put his query in such a manner that hurts so many people.
And the reason i say he doesn't belong to HR it seems coz the normal thing that how can u politely ask for suggestion lacks in his post.
N when we say even we r human n can decide to leave the job for bread n butter... it was for our knowledge not to give to our employees.
We r mature people ,handling responsible positions n we sud know hoe to clear our query without hurting others sentiments...
cheers
anisha
From India, Mumbai
Hi Shaitan,
U were mentioning that we are against employees in changing jobs.I jus to want to make it clear that we are not against him for changing, but we want to know the need of his change, work-out a solution for his particular need and even then if the employee thinks that the particular need is not met, we ask him to follow the Appointment Agreement which is mutual again.
We are just trying to reduce attrition not dissolve it in total.We encourage employees to discuss their problems becoz we beleive that every kind of problem can be resolved.
I also clearly know that u wont be able to understand this as Anisha put it(By your politeness quotient) that you are not from the HR fraternity.Discussion is alright, but a one-sided discussion is not at all good.Please dont us this site for your personal whims & fancies.
Ravi.
From India, Vijayawada
U were mentioning that we are against employees in changing jobs.I jus to want to make it clear that we are not against him for changing, but we want to know the need of his change, work-out a solution for his particular need and even then if the employee thinks that the particular need is not met, we ask him to follow the Appointment Agreement which is mutual again.
We are just trying to reduce attrition not dissolve it in total.We encourage employees to discuss their problems becoz we beleive that every kind of problem can be resolved.
I also clearly know that u wont be able to understand this as Anisha put it(By your politeness quotient) that you are not from the HR fraternity.Discussion is alright, but a one-sided discussion is not at all good.Please dont us this site for your personal whims & fancies.
Ravi.
From India, Vijayawada
HR needs to take instructions from so called top-management because they are not capabale to take decisions. If they take decisions they fail to enforece it...so best thing that they can do is "follow" instructions of "senior / top management"....
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
I doubt if you have any profession or not...you looks very FUNNY. Sometimes you introduce yourself as "Shaitan of CITEHR" ... Other times, you call yourself..."HR of HR". Then you write "Bhakti aatma ka koi location nahi hota"...office mein kuch kaam kartey ho ki...CITEHR per hi gumtey rehtey ho.... :D :D
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Just once....put yourself in the shoes of a Company Owner and then for a moment think...what is expected from HR and what are they performing...
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
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