Dear Pratap,
First of all please remove "recession terminology" from your head.
The recruitment "process" has not changed with any organization becuase f recession. The process is the same, just that positions have been cut (a few)
Do you think that interviews are only meant to find the best and take the best? Sometimes even the best of the best people are not considered, becuase of the Organization work culture. It may not nurture your dreams.
I have interviewed many people for positions in the automotive domain, and I have purposefully rejected a few REAL GOOD candidates (I was working with a well reputed Automotive Engineering company then) . Not because I was biased or did not want them...its just that if such people had joined the company, they will leave in within two months. Their dreams and vision will not match the company/teams direction.
Whereas some people may just be average - and we will eb sure tyhat they can perform in such a pressurized / different culture and will also benefit by being a part of the team.
This is one such scenario.
Sometimes - I have come across some people who are really good with the skills, but have a set back in attitude - very cold and "ya I know what it is" attitude. I scored him high for the interview and when he was meeting my boss... my boss (The Managing Director) just threw his resume outside the door, once the candidate left. And the statement to me was "so now you know what kind of people I need in my company - not boasters, but real players and leaders!"
So forget about why you are not selected. There are reasons behind it. If a MNC can grow that big and have a good name, sure they know how to interview. Or who knows, maybe you will be a fit a couple of months down the line. Just focus on what you can deliever. No point in worrying over these silly things on why you were not selected.
From India, Coimbatore
2First of all please remove "recession terminology" from your head.
The recruitment "process" has not changed with any organization becuase f recession. The process is the same, just that positions have been cut (a few)
Do you think that interviews are only meant to find the best and take the best? Sometimes even the best of the best people are not considered, becuase of the Organization work culture. It may not nurture your dreams.
I have interviewed many people for positions in the automotive domain, and I have purposefully rejected a few REAL GOOD candidates (I was working with a well reputed Automotive Engineering company then) . Not because I was biased or did not want them...its just that if such people had joined the company, they will leave in within two months. Their dreams and vision will not match the company/teams direction.
Whereas some people may just be average - and we will eb sure tyhat they can perform in such a pressurized / different culture and will also benefit by being a part of the team.
This is one such scenario.
Sometimes - I have come across some people who are really good with the skills, but have a set back in attitude - very cold and "ya I know what it is" attitude. I scored him high for the interview and when he was meeting my boss... my boss (The Managing Director) just threw his resume outside the door, once the candidate left. And the statement to me was "so now you know what kind of people I need in my company - not boasters, but real players and leaders!"
So forget about why you are not selected. There are reasons behind it. If a MNC can grow that big and have a good name, sure they know how to interview. Or who knows, maybe you will be a fit a couple of months down the line. Just focus on what you can deliever. No point in worrying over these silly things on why you were not selected.
From India, Coimbatore
A true HR professional knows to Network from any source/medium..
It would be baseless and narrow minded observation to think that recruitment and networking is only through a set channel.
A true Recruiter -also a good networker would know what the above meant.
I have met a Sales Executive" who is exceptionally good at selling sand (for our company) during a Train Journey and while pulling up a conversation with him I felt that he would be a good match. Had an informal discussion in the train.. got his contact details and arranged a formal - 3 round interview (HR - TECH - SENIOR MANAGEMENT) and the person was selected...the best part was he brought in 3 more good people who he knew well in his previous job assignments.
My boss was "!!!! " you did that? Wow!
From India, Coimbatore
It would be baseless and narrow minded observation to think that recruitment and networking is only through a set channel.
A true Recruiter -also a good networker would know what the above meant.
I have met a Sales Executive" who is exceptionally good at selling sand (for our company) during a Train Journey and while pulling up a conversation with him I felt that he would be a good match. Had an informal discussion in the train.. got his contact details and arranged a formal - 3 round interview (HR - TECH - SENIOR MANAGEMENT) and the person was selected...the best part was he brought in 3 more good people who he knew well in his previous job assignments.
My boss was "!!!! " you did that? Wow!
From India, Coimbatore
Thank u Hr_wonder. I welcome your advice.
I guess you have really understood my posting especially the paragraph stated about the selection.
But to tell u a fact, i'm not in a category of boaster.
God has blessed me with certain skillsets which has helped
me to come to a certain level for now.
But, i'm not satisfied with my growth in terms of monthly package (but learning is always there in my company) my present employer pays me when calculated in terms of the workload what i do in the company.
That's the reason for me to search for a good job.
And i have a opinion about the selectors. Some interviewer, have the habit to reject a few candidates for reason like
1. the candidate may be agewise elder than the interviewer
2. may be the candidate may posses equivalent knowledge as like the interviewer.
'coz this hapened in my company an year back where a person(the interviewer) age less than 30yrs rejected all the people who came for interview >30yrs stating some reasons and finally recruited 2 people who are age wise junior to him and a little less competent to him in terms of skill sets.
ANy how thnx for your reply.
From India, Madras
I guess you have really understood my posting especially the paragraph stated about the selection.
But to tell u a fact, i'm not in a category of boaster.
God has blessed me with certain skillsets which has helped
me to come to a certain level for now.
But, i'm not satisfied with my growth in terms of monthly package (but learning is always there in my company) my present employer pays me when calculated in terms of the workload what i do in the company.
That's the reason for me to search for a good job.
And i have a opinion about the selectors. Some interviewer, have the habit to reject a few candidates for reason like
1. the candidate may be agewise elder than the interviewer
2. may be the candidate may posses equivalent knowledge as like the interviewer.
'coz this hapened in my company an year back where a person(the interviewer) age less than 30yrs rejected all the people who came for interview >30yrs stating some reasons and finally recruited 2 people who are age wise junior to him and a little less competent to him in terms of skill sets.
ANy how thnx for your reply.
From India, Madras
Hi Pratap,
I completely agree with the views given by others.I hope you realise that a lot of efforts are involved in the entire interview process.People at varies levels of the hierachy take interviews to judge a candidate from different view points.I am sure all of them have better jobs to do rather than waste time in conducting interview esp when there is no requirement.
The HR saying"We will get back" again can be due to several reasons:
-Either Your are underqualified
-Either over qualified
-Either your responses have not convinced the HR Fully
-Either the HR is not sure of your atttitude/Tech skills etc...
You would have to understand that when a candidate is recruited by a HR ,he/she takes responsibility for it.Moreover HR also have the pressure to close a certain no of positions before dead lines then why would they unnecessary reject a candidate.
I do understand that being unable to clear interview is frustrating but you would have to carefully analyse the reasons in terms of your body language,behavior,presentation,tech skills etc...
A careful analyses would definetely be helpful.Ver rightly said"When we pin point one finger at someone four fingers point out at us"
So have a optimistic attitude instead of suspecting the interview process look at the ways to improve youir self and your profile.
All The Best.
From India, Madras
I completely agree with the views given by others.I hope you realise that a lot of efforts are involved in the entire interview process.People at varies levels of the hierachy take interviews to judge a candidate from different view points.I am sure all of them have better jobs to do rather than waste time in conducting interview esp when there is no requirement.
The HR saying"We will get back" again can be due to several reasons:
-Either Your are underqualified
-Either over qualified
-Either your responses have not convinced the HR Fully
-Either the HR is not sure of your atttitude/Tech skills etc...
You would have to understand that when a candidate is recruited by a HR ,he/she takes responsibility for it.Moreover HR also have the pressure to close a certain no of positions before dead lines then why would they unnecessary reject a candidate.
I do understand that being unable to clear interview is frustrating but you would have to carefully analyse the reasons in terms of your body language,behavior,presentation,tech skills etc...
A careful analyses would definetely be helpful.Ver rightly said"When we pin point one finger at someone four fingers point out at us"
So have a optimistic attitude instead of suspecting the interview process look at the ways to improve youir self and your profile.
All The Best.
From India, Madras
Hi,
There are lot many openings for technical position.
When ever you go for interview be prepared about the few information about the company. Prepare your self well regarding the job profile that you must have worked on till date before you face the interview.
Be confident and make eye to eye contact.
Don't speak much, just answer to the point in a simple way.
If you not sure about any skill or any topic then be straight and let them know, but just don't bluff wrong.
Employer's try to check your patience level, confidence level, your flexibility, your grasping power to learn the things and adapt to changing environment and the way you would handle additional work responsibilities and work pressure in stress.
So don't get upset but learn to overcome situation by improving the things where you feel you not up to mark. Remember one thing in mind "Success is never Ending and Failures are never Final" don't ever give up in life.
Regards,
Harsha
From India, Vadodara
There are lot many openings for technical position.
When ever you go for interview be prepared about the few information about the company. Prepare your self well regarding the job profile that you must have worked on till date before you face the interview.
Be confident and make eye to eye contact.
Don't speak much, just answer to the point in a simple way.
If you not sure about any skill or any topic then be straight and let them know, but just don't bluff wrong.
Employer's try to check your patience level, confidence level, your flexibility, your grasping power to learn the things and adapt to changing environment and the way you would handle additional work responsibilities and work pressure in stress.
So don't get upset but learn to overcome situation by improving the things where you feel you not up to mark. Remember one thing in mind "Success is never Ending and Failures are never Final" don't ever give up in life.
Regards,
Harsha
From India, Vadodara
Hello Singh, this is not a personal posting.
Didn't you come across lines where i have expressed my concerns / doubts about selection process in interviews...
I hope u r a HR person, but your message seems like your behaviour is not matching to a HR department.
i hope my thread what i have given will really make a few companies or HR people think....... about candidates who are like me... I don't like boasting, but at times a few things we need to discuss apparently to find solutions.
From India, Madras
Didn't you come across lines where i have expressed my concerns / doubts about selection process in interviews...
I hope u r a HR person, but your message seems like your behaviour is not matching to a HR department.
i hope my thread what i have given will really make a few companies or HR people think....... about candidates who are like me... I don't like boasting, but at times a few things we need to discuss apparently to find solutions.
From India, Madras
Thank u Mam...
your advice has raised a hope of confidence in me.
Even i'm ready to relocate anywhere. But as you said eye to eye contact does mean a lot in an interview.
i still need to improve on this while attending an interview.
From India, Madras
your advice has raised a hope of confidence in me.
Even i'm ready to relocate anywhere. But as you said eye to eye contact does mean a lot in an interview.
i still need to improve on this while attending an interview.
From India, Madras
Never have an opinion Pratap :-) Then you will never perform in life.
I need to say, you are trying to only see the opinion of people supporting you, or sympathizing with you. Isn't that the character of the weak?
Dont worry over the character of the interviewer - that makes you look at interviews with a slighlty different attitude.
So does that mean that if you are selected - the HR / interviewer is good?
There are many reasosn - even salary may be one of the reason. Whats the poin in hiring a good person with high salary levels - that do not match existing structure?
Whats the necessity to hire a person who has good skills - the same compared to another candidtae but at a higher cost.When I have a person at a lesser salary with the same skills / positive attitude as yours - Should I explain further?
Its a very negative attitude to think that the interviewer is biased (this will not help you dear in your growth)
See what matters to you. Hold a certain amount of positive confidence over you and dont let the negative emotions hide your strengths.
Can you do anything by worrying over the interviewer's attitude or complaining over that? You cant... But you can possibly waste time over worrying for unnecessary reasons in life. (think what you want - waste time? or use time)
Look what matters to you. Look what will help you to the next level.
I know that - you are probably looking for some more people to raise their hands and support your views. That may bring mental satisfaction - but will that help you pass through the next interview?
Should Pratap need confirmation from others to believe he is good at something?
Think!
From India, Coimbatore
I need to say, you are trying to only see the opinion of people supporting you, or sympathizing with you. Isn't that the character of the weak?
Dont worry over the character of the interviewer - that makes you look at interviews with a slighlty different attitude.
So does that mean that if you are selected - the HR / interviewer is good?
There are many reasosn - even salary may be one of the reason. Whats the poin in hiring a good person with high salary levels - that do not match existing structure?
Whats the necessity to hire a person who has good skills - the same compared to another candidtae but at a higher cost.When I have a person at a lesser salary with the same skills / positive attitude as yours - Should I explain further?
Its a very negative attitude to think that the interviewer is biased (this will not help you dear in your growth)
See what matters to you. Hold a certain amount of positive confidence over you and dont let the negative emotions hide your strengths.
Can you do anything by worrying over the interviewer's attitude or complaining over that? You cant... But you can possibly waste time over worrying for unnecessary reasons in life. (think what you want - waste time? or use time)
Look what matters to you. Look what will help you to the next level.
I know that - you are probably looking for some more people to raise their hands and support your views. That may bring mental satisfaction - but will that help you pass through the next interview?
Should Pratap need confirmation from others to believe he is good at something?
Think!
From India, Coimbatore
ur posting was quite genuine and I welcome it with an open mind,I do not find anything wrong with it. Though I do not belomg to Software sector, but I can share with you some insights about Walk-ins/Interview and technical portion only.
When u are going for an inerview,ur overall looks and dressing gives an impression to the inetrviewer.and when u start with the technical round,it is not that the interviewer wants you to know everything,but as per the profile u would have,a level is expected. u would have done good,but u never know how the other candidatyed are doing and also what are the other non-technical qualities that the other fellow is able to satisfy.
also, ur educational quality does matter, from where have u passed, ur working experiences/marks etc..there may be lot of criterias,that u just do not get to know in walk-ins.
so,it will be wrong to say that walk-ins are eye wash as no one will ever want to waste his/her time by conducting fake interviews,as it doesnot serve any purpose.
Sometimes u do excellent,still u do not get selected, thats when u need to analyse ur soft skills.may b ur presentation/confidence/and other qualities have just got u down.
u should not be disheartened by the failures, they are just the other way that does not lead to success.thats it...
I will suggest you to be more confident and bold next time u go for an interview and win one, and do post ur success story for all of us.
awaiting to hear ur success story soon.
wish u all the best!
with regards,
M.Biswas
Samsung Heavy Industries.
From Korea
When u are going for an inerview,ur overall looks and dressing gives an impression to the inetrviewer.and when u start with the technical round,it is not that the interviewer wants you to know everything,but as per the profile u would have,a level is expected. u would have done good,but u never know how the other candidatyed are doing and also what are the other non-technical qualities that the other fellow is able to satisfy.
also, ur educational quality does matter, from where have u passed, ur working experiences/marks etc..there may be lot of criterias,that u just do not get to know in walk-ins.
so,it will be wrong to say that walk-ins are eye wash as no one will ever want to waste his/her time by conducting fake interviews,as it doesnot serve any purpose.
Sometimes u do excellent,still u do not get selected, thats when u need to analyse ur soft skills.may b ur presentation/confidence/and other qualities have just got u down.
u should not be disheartened by the failures, they are just the other way that does not lead to success.thats it...
I will suggest you to be more confident and bold next time u go for an interview and win one, and do post ur success story for all of us.
awaiting to hear ur success story soon.
wish u all the best!
with regards,
M.Biswas
Samsung Heavy Industries.
From Korea
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