Thanks a lot Rashni, yes, i think all these three points are the crux of the entire thing which happened, all said and done, such companies should really be blacklisted so that they can't play with the careers of people like that.
I'm amazed that such companies still making profits and can lure good candidates, my friend resigned but there are some who are stuck, as they have lots of responsibility.
Yes TS, i agree with your point..and very well quoted.....:)
From India, Delhi
113I'm amazed that such companies still making profits and can lure good candidates, my friend resigned but there are some who are stuck, as they have lots of responsibility.
Yes TS, i agree with your point..and very well quoted.....:)
From India, Delhi
Hi Archana,
Sorry about your friends plight.
I would not like to blame either the company or your friend. Your friend must have had some background info, before deciding to move to a different city altogether. After all he/she was joining as a sr. mgr and not as a fresher. Also, the company would not like to make a fool out of itself and garner a bad image. Ask your friend to discuss with the colleagues there if possible to acertain the credibility of the orgn. Meanwhile, if other opportunities come across he/she should jump the wagon.
Your friend mst be feeling quite demotivated and disgrunted. Ask him/her to be try and be more positive and prove his competencies. I wish your friend luck.
Regards
From India, Visakhapatnam
Sorry about your friends plight.
I would not like to blame either the company or your friend. Your friend must have had some background info, before deciding to move to a different city altogether. After all he/she was joining as a sr. mgr and not as a fresher. Also, the company would not like to make a fool out of itself and garner a bad image. Ask your friend to discuss with the colleagues there if possible to acertain the credibility of the orgn. Meanwhile, if other opportunities come across he/she should jump the wagon.
Your friend mst be feeling quite demotivated and disgrunted. Ask him/her to be try and be more positive and prove his competencies. I wish your friend luck.
Regards
From India, Visakhapatnam
Oops Archana, I didnt realise your frind has quit. All the best anyway to your friend. Regards
From India, Visakhapatnam
From India, Visakhapatnam
- I am reminded of a experience I had in past.
- HR Team is blamed for their failure in hiring new employees in a growing company and for becoming hurdle in the growth of company. The real problem with hiring new employees was : in-spite of selecting good employees, they were not joining because of unattractive salary offered. Salaries were offered as per the policies framed by company. Management was also aware of this fact.
A new VP-HR is hired to drive and guide the HR Policies and Dept. of this growing company.
- New VP-HR in his initial enthusiasm to show results, hires many new employees by offering fantastic salary packages, without giving much thought to company policy and remunerations of employees on board.
- When Management came to know about higher salaries offered and imbalance it has caused within a company, new VP-HR was asked to give explanation for going overboard.
- Eventually some of the employment offers were canceled and withdrawn. Due to resultant embarrassment new VP-HR also resigned, even before he was asked to do so.
From India, Pune
If the Management is sincere and ethical they should have informed the person the likely probability of getting or not getting the agreed salary. This would have given enough chance for the other side to think about on the other options if any available to him at that point of time. But now he must have lost on other options too. Who is going to compensate for this ? So the Management definetely has no right for that matter to take any employee for a ride.
JMK
From India, Hyderabad
JMK
From India, Hyderabad
If the Management is sincere and ethical they should have informed the person the likely probability of getting or not getting the agreed salary. This would have given enough chance for the other side to think about on the other options if any available to him at that point of time. But now he must have lost on other options too. Who is going to compensate for this ? So the Management definetely has no right for that matter to take any employee for a ride.
JMK
From India, Hyderabad
JMK
From India, Hyderabad
Dear Archna,
Yes, you are right that it is very tough to know about upcoming profit/ loss in very less time i.e. 15 days. My intention is just to highlight the point related with motivation and sustainability. Your friends has to stay there and prove him self if profit start generate then he can renegotiate his salary and that is very good thing as he is working in sales department so I am sure he can analise easily about the profit and loss terms.
In conclusion I wanna only say that, aggressiveness pays positive only in rare cases.
With Best Regards
Soniya
From India, Jodhpur
Yes, you are right that it is very tough to know about upcoming profit/ loss in very less time i.e. 15 days. My intention is just to highlight the point related with motivation and sustainability. Your friends has to stay there and prove him self if profit start generate then he can renegotiate his salary and that is very good thing as he is working in sales department so I am sure he can analise easily about the profit and loss terms.
In conclusion I wanna only say that, aggressiveness pays positive only in rare cases.
With Best Regards
Soniya
From India, Jodhpur
Let us initiate a drive to Highlight the Name of Such Companies and their Place so that our others member also know about such companies and if your employees are going there we can help them out after telling their wrong Policies and Practices.
But the case ( wrong doing) must be very genuine. Otherwise that company may take legal action against us if there is wrong case.
Rajiv Singh
From India
But the case ( wrong doing) must be very genuine. Otherwise that company may take legal action against us if there is wrong case.
Rajiv Singh
From India
Hi Archna & all,
According to me, it is completely an unfair treatment given to a new employee, who has set his expectations and has come with a zeal to contribute to the organization. I would say the major mistake is on the employer who has made the offer before knowing about his revenues. It is good to know that your friend has quit them, because with this kind of act from an employer, one can assume that the organization was not having professional employees or proper decision makers and it is defenitely not a place for professionals to work.
At the same time I agree with some of your views that 'human make errors' and these things happen across the globe at some corners. I would suggest the job seekers not to get attracted for big offers in companies without proper background. It is always advisable to choose professional or standard companies though you sometimes get little lesser package, as they do not pass their mistakes on the employee who is newly hired (by way of reducing his salary in 15 days) rather they would find ways to balance their mistakes (like bringing additional revenue through other ways).
From United Arab Emirates, Abu Dhabi
According to me, it is completely an unfair treatment given to a new employee, who has set his expectations and has come with a zeal to contribute to the organization. I would say the major mistake is on the employer who has made the offer before knowing about his revenues. It is good to know that your friend has quit them, because with this kind of act from an employer, one can assume that the organization was not having professional employees or proper decision makers and it is defenitely not a place for professionals to work.
At the same time I agree with some of your views that 'human make errors' and these things happen across the globe at some corners. I would suggest the job seekers not to get attracted for big offers in companies without proper background. It is always advisable to choose professional or standard companies though you sometimes get little lesser package, as they do not pass their mistakes on the employee who is newly hired (by way of reducing his salary in 15 days) rather they would find ways to balance their mistakes (like bringing additional revenue through other ways).
From United Arab Emirates, Abu Dhabi
Dear archnahr
Sorry to hear about what happened to your friend. My only concern is didn't your friend sign an employment contract first with the employer? Your salary is normally outlined in the contract, reducing it or withholding it whatever will be in breach of the contract and thus your friend can seek legal redress. I personally do not beleive this revenue, profits story the employers were saying, I presume it was pre-planned considering how expensive it may be to hire certain highly skilled labor. My advise to your friend is that he/she should continue with this job and if he doesn't like the salary, he can start looking for a job elsewhere and this time always ask to sign the contract or get guarantee of salary.
regards,
Konraad
Online Business Consultant
Gubizz.com (beta)
From Netherlands, Serooskerke
Sorry to hear about what happened to your friend. My only concern is didn't your friend sign an employment contract first with the employer? Your salary is normally outlined in the contract, reducing it or withholding it whatever will be in breach of the contract and thus your friend can seek legal redress. I personally do not beleive this revenue, profits story the employers were saying, I presume it was pre-planned considering how expensive it may be to hire certain highly skilled labor. My advise to your friend is that he/she should continue with this job and if he doesn't like the salary, he can start looking for a job elsewhere and this time always ask to sign the contract or get guarantee of salary.
regards,
Konraad
Online Business Consultant
Gubizz.com (beta)
From Netherlands, Serooskerke
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