Dear John Chiang,
We are glad know your chinese identity and see your comments on this forum, interestingly everyone of us was under impression that you are discussing overtime in the context of indian labour laws. All replies are focused on ovetime provisions under Indian labour Laws which is different from the global work culture and practices particularly Europe, North America,USA, Australia, China and Japan where total weekly working hours are 40 hours and people are paid overtime or compensatory off in lieu of overtime spend in the office/work place.
But in India we have different practice, of 48 mandatory weeekly working hours and anything above is paid overtime that is also subject to unionised employees (Non-Exempted employees according to Western practice)in the organised sector .
Otherwise in general employees from the staff or middle management who are not unionised employees (Exempted Employees according to western practices)are eligible for compensatory off similar to western concept.
We justify above case by quoting fortunate employees from organised sector working in PSU/MNC/PLC/IT companies who enjoy better working conditions with unionised workforce where more liberal HR practices are in place.Legally every thing is fine on recored books but in practice nothing exist, we find law exist enforcement machinary also exist to fill in the blank space but working class at large has no respite.
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"The greatest discovery of the third world"
Majority of the Indian companies particularly medium scale and small scale Industries has larglest unorganised labour force in India and they are not unionised including booming infrastructure and construction industry.
Working hours in this sector where majority of work force engagements takes place has no maximum limit for weekly working hours and 48 hours working is interpreted as minimum weekly working hours being mandatory forced by the labour law and they are religiously enforced in every quarter right from small shops to corporates offices. But for maximum working there is no limit.
In such non-unionised sector and unorganised employment no law works. Working overtime withour remuneration is linked to the loyalty, integrity and hard work without any promise to reap benefits in future.
employees are has to forfeit his claim because if employee opt for legal recourse he will be shunted out very next day.
On an average Indian works for 10 hours a day and 60 hours a week. Average 12 hours including commuting and office attendance. This is subject of research in India what exactly Government has done to promote balance of working hours and social life.
Regards
Sawant
From Saudi Arabia
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13We are glad know your chinese identity and see your comments on this forum, interestingly everyone of us was under impression that you are discussing overtime in the context of indian labour laws. All replies are focused on ovetime provisions under Indian labour Laws which is different from the global work culture and practices particularly Europe, North America,USA, Australia, China and Japan where total weekly working hours are 40 hours and people are paid overtime or compensatory off in lieu of overtime spend in the office/work place.
But in India we have different practice, of 48 mandatory weeekly working hours and anything above is paid overtime that is also subject to unionised employees (Non-Exempted employees according to Western practice)in the organised sector .
Otherwise in general employees from the staff or middle management who are not unionised employees (Exempted Employees according to western practices)are eligible for compensatory off similar to western concept.
We justify above case by quoting fortunate employees from organised sector working in PSU/MNC/PLC/IT companies who enjoy better working conditions with unionised workforce where more liberal HR practices are in place.Legally every thing is fine on recored books but in practice nothing exist, we find law exist enforcement machinary also exist to fill in the blank space but working class at large has no respite.
Other Side of the Story:
"The greatest discovery of the third world"
Majority of the Indian companies particularly medium scale and small scale Industries has larglest unorganised labour force in India and they are not unionised including booming infrastructure and construction industry.
Working hours in this sector where majority of work force engagements takes place has no maximum limit for weekly working hours and 48 hours working is interpreted as minimum weekly working hours being mandatory forced by the labour law and they are religiously enforced in every quarter right from small shops to corporates offices. But for maximum working there is no limit.
In such non-unionised sector and unorganised employment no law works. Working overtime withour remuneration is linked to the loyalty, integrity and hard work without any promise to reap benefits in future.
employees are has to forfeit his claim because if employee opt for legal recourse he will be shunted out very next day.
On an average Indian works for 10 hours a day and 60 hours a week. Average 12 hours including commuting and office attendance. This is subject of research in India what exactly Government has done to promote balance of working hours and social life.
Regards
Sawant
From Saudi Arabia
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Dear Sawant, Thanks for enlighten me in this regard. Basically, I do learn a lot from this good web site and proud of member of CiteHR. Again, thank you for your writing. Best regards, John
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Dear All,
I want to know if the wages of some tailors in our organization are ten thousand Rupees, will overtime be applicable or not? I also seek clarification on exempt employees and non-exempt employees. Please explain... Tailors, checkers, packers, receivers, and assistant supervisors are exempt employees.
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Brijesh
From India, Gurgaon
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I want to know if the wages of some tailors in our organization are ten thousand Rupees, will overtime be applicable or not? I also seek clarification on exempt employees and non-exempt employees. Please explain... Tailors, checkers, packers, receivers, and assistant supervisors are exempt employees.
Thanks & Regards,
Brijesh
From India, Gurgaon
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Dear Sir,
I am working in a security service organization. We pay the wages to our guard force as per the minimum wage notification prevailing in the state. I have the following queries:
1. If any guard performs overtime, can we pay him double the basic wage (where basic is 50% of his wage for an 8-hour duty)?
2. If yes, what justification can we provide?
Please help with your valuable advice in this regard.
Thank you.
From India, Moradabad
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I am working in a security service organization. We pay the wages to our guard force as per the minimum wage notification prevailing in the state. I have the following queries:
1. If any guard performs overtime, can we pay him double the basic wage (where basic is 50% of his wage for an 8-hour duty)?
2. If yes, what justification can we provide?
Please help with your valuable advice in this regard.
Thank you.
From India, Moradabad
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Dear All,
I am working in an engineering firm. I just want to confirm whether OT rates are fixed for each month or variable based on the number of days in a month.
For example, if anybody is earning Rs. 8000 per month and we have to calculate the per-hour overtime rate, in the month of June (30 days), the rate would be 33.33, and in the month of July (31 days), the rate would be 32.25 (8000/31/8).
Please help me clarify these issues.
Thanks & Regards,
Aanchal
From India, Delhi
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I am working in an engineering firm. I just want to confirm whether OT rates are fixed for each month or variable based on the number of days in a month.
For example, if anybody is earning Rs. 8000 per month and we have to calculate the per-hour overtime rate, in the month of June (30 days), the rate would be 33.33, and in the month of July (31 days), the rate would be 32.25 (8000/31/8).
Please help me clarify these issues.
Thanks & Regards,
Aanchal
From India, Delhi
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