Respected Senior(Prashanth)
Thank you for your comments .After joining this organisation I felt this is the issue which needs to be addressed first because,there are only a few senior members and rest all ar with 2-3 yrs of experience and like when we were kids we teied to imitate what grown ups used to do in the same fasion they try to imitate the seniors
Your advice to do something positive for the seniors will be very helpful for me .They already have the liberty to come toffice late take as many as 30 holidays a year ,they are getting fat packages,when Invite them to give training to the juniors so that they feel speacial they refuse saying that they dont have time in hand ,sometimes I fail to understand what else can I do for them
I will be highly obliged if you can suggest me what positive things I can do for them .Iam trying to mingle with them and get into their shoes and see what else they want from the company or whta are theire grievances but then again that is goin to take alittle time
Keep posting
Thanks and Regards
Indrani Chakraborty
From India, Pune
3Thank you for your comments .After joining this organisation I felt this is the issue which needs to be addressed first because,there are only a few senior members and rest all ar with 2-3 yrs of experience and like when we were kids we teied to imitate what grown ups used to do in the same fasion they try to imitate the seniors
Your advice to do something positive for the seniors will be very helpful for me .They already have the liberty to come toffice late take as many as 30 holidays a year ,they are getting fat packages,when Invite them to give training to the juniors so that they feel speacial they refuse saying that they dont have time in hand ,sometimes I fail to understand what else can I do for them
I will be highly obliged if you can suggest me what positive things I can do for them .Iam trying to mingle with them and get into their shoes and see what else they want from the company or whta are theire grievances but then again that is goin to take alittle time
Keep posting
Thanks and Regards
Indrani Chakraborty
From India, Pune
Hi Indrani...
Ok so you are behind those senior guys...
good...
as i told you your strategy should have been custumised to your org.
need to know more about your org.
can you tell me how old are you in this org?
have you idetified any issue whach they are not happy with?
Prashanth
Ok so you are behind those senior guys...
good...
as i told you your strategy should have been custumised to your org.
need to know more about your org.
can you tell me how old are you in this org?
have you idetified any issue whach they are not happy with?
Prashanth
Hi,
Let me tell you how I solved the problem in my office.
I had exactly 5 seniors who wer considered as the foundation of the org and were very strong.
I was new and new in this org and beleive it or not they had even objected to have a hr in the orgn.However when I joined all gave me polite smiles but later on I got the news from the grapevine sources adn belive me I tried to involve them in my process of changing the orgn policies.
I belive that if you give the robber the keys to house and guard it he will never rob your house.This was my strategy which worked and I wish it works for you too.
All the best
Regards
Karuuna
From India, Mumbai
Let me tell you how I solved the problem in my office.
I had exactly 5 seniors who wer considered as the foundation of the org and were very strong.
I was new and new in this org and beleive it or not they had even objected to have a hr in the orgn.However when I joined all gave me polite smiles but later on I got the news from the grapevine sources adn belive me I tried to involve them in my process of changing the orgn policies.
I belive that if you give the robber the keys to house and guard it he will never rob your house.This was my strategy which worked and I wish it works for you too.
All the best
Regards
Karuuna
From India, Mumbai
Hi Indrani,
This is really a case in many of the Industries. Infact even i have overcome this in my professional life and handling this kind of problem depends on the certain things like how will those people take it for granted, than how will management react to this which will depend on the out come of your effort. Infact putting a mail is really a good idea and this works out and you will be on the safer side as you have done your part of the job by reminding. Remeber when we will be new in any organization in a lower/middle we have to just remaind others where they will go wrong rest will be looked after by our seniors. Tell me what have you decided on this and how will you handle it out..........
Regards
Amith R.
From India, Bangalore
This is really a case in many of the Industries. Infact even i have overcome this in my professional life and handling this kind of problem depends on the certain things like how will those people take it for granted, than how will management react to this which will depend on the out come of your effort. Infact putting a mail is really a good idea and this works out and you will be on the safer side as you have done your part of the job by reminding. Remeber when we will be new in any organization in a lower/middle we have to just remaind others where they will go wrong rest will be looked after by our seniors. Tell me what have you decided on this and how will you handle it out..........
Regards
Amith R.
From India, Bangalore
Hi Indrani,
(I hope this works for you)
In today's world nobody listens to you even if it is politely said....but there are other ways to tackle such situations ,if you have tell them individually that's the wrong approach..what all can you do: just have a look
1. create a specific id(here i'm talking about official id which can be used for All employee's communication only)
2. Send an All employee mail for any such communication ( from the above id) so that you don't have to approach everybody.
3. Your dept head should be the signatorty
This will solve your purpose indirectly .....(if it is in your work profile you should handle such things by simply addressing to all employee's)
#189613 (only for the reference..this is the appropriate way to communicate your message)
Regards,
Deepa
From India, Gurgaon
(I hope this works for you)
In today's world nobody listens to you even if it is politely said....but there are other ways to tackle such situations ,if you have tell them individually that's the wrong approach..what all can you do: just have a look
1. create a specific id(here i'm talking about official id which can be used for All employee's communication only)
2. Send an All employee mail for any such communication ( from the above id) so that you don't have to approach everybody.
3. Your dept head should be the signatorty
This will solve your purpose indirectly .....(if it is in your work profile you should handle such things by simply addressing to all employee's)
#189613 (only for the reference..this is the appropriate way to communicate your message)
Regards,
Deepa
From India, Gurgaon
well what do our senior members have to say in this case,,, or is it that cite hr is full of only juniors like us... I would like some senior member to guide us, as to why they behave like this,,
From India, Pune
From India, Pune
I have faced the similar problem in the organisation and the approach which I took was little different. I became very friendly with these "seniors", have very often chat with them over a coffee and used to praise them (they are praiseworthy too). I used to tell tem that they are the role model for many in the organisation and juniors do respect them and tactlyfully , told them to fill in the attendance register etc. which really worked. You will have to have patience , as they would not listen to you initially.
All the best
Mariaa
From India, Bangalore
All the best
Mariaa
From India, Bangalore
Hi indrani,
Pl write a memo to all regarding the attendance system as a part of stramlineining the entire orgnaisation. Inlcude this points and send a cc to your immediate boss or the director
Next day make sure that all will adhere it strictly
keep on informing them the consequences if they do not agree
BC
From India, Mumbai
Pl write a memo to all regarding the attendance system as a part of stramlineining the entire orgnaisation. Inlcude this points and send a cc to your immediate boss or the director
Next day make sure that all will adhere it strictly
keep on informing them the consequences if they do not agree
BC
From India, Mumbai
Dear Friends,
All your views are correct. The same thing I too facing ofcourse. Finally I solved smoothly through the management itself by way of CHANEKYA'S idea. First you make a friendship style, make a strong ground with your colleagues who are opponent of the persons. Every Management is depending on Production & Accounts personnel. So to co-ordinate with that department and then start your disqualifications of such people and explaining through them to the management. Your problems will be solved.
Regards,
:wink:
PBS KUMAR
From India, Kakinada
All your views are correct. The same thing I too facing ofcourse. Finally I solved smoothly through the management itself by way of CHANEKYA'S idea. First you make a friendship style, make a strong ground with your colleagues who are opponent of the persons. Every Management is depending on Production & Accounts personnel. So to co-ordinate with that department and then start your disqualifications of such people and explaining through them to the management. Your problems will be solved.
Regards,
:wink:
PBS KUMAR
From India, Kakinada
Indrani,
It's not the problem at your company only. The problem is everywhere these days. In my company senior people always tried to brake the baisc rules and regulations.But, being HR as strict disciplinarian you should politely approcah them to follow the rules and you should convince them to follow the rules so that their juniors can follow them. Indirectly tell them "Discipline is the sign of human beings and indiscipline is the sign of animals". Try to handle it with tact and while talking to them (those senior team members)don't request them but just to tell them that they are not abiding the rules which is really bad.Its just you have to convince them you can't force them initially as you are seeking their help sometimes(as you told)
Thanks
dev
From India, Gurgaon
It's not the problem at your company only. The problem is everywhere these days. In my company senior people always tried to brake the baisc rules and regulations.But, being HR as strict disciplinarian you should politely approcah them to follow the rules and you should convince them to follow the rules so that their juniors can follow them. Indirectly tell them "Discipline is the sign of human beings and indiscipline is the sign of animals". Try to handle it with tact and while talking to them (those senior team members)don't request them but just to tell them that they are not abiding the rules which is really bad.Its just you have to convince them you can't force them initially as you are seeking their help sometimes(as you told)
Thanks
dev
From India, Gurgaon
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