change their shift i dont think if in a batch / shift there are 100 people all 100 are muslims, those who dont have any issue in working at that times you give them that slot. Also depends on peoples mentality and seriousness of how they take religion, i have seen many doctors , people working in sensitive posts taking the religion apart and doing their duty sincerely, ever seen a doctor in between operation or army person in duty taking time off for prayers. My post is not to hurt any religion or caste. But management really dont care about such things , especially companies who are at the mercy of uncle SAM .
From India, Madras
113From India, Madras
Hello Sushma Reddy,
What your staff is telling is correct--Iftar food is taken only between 7.30 PM & 4.00 AM [in the nights--basically AFTER Sunset & BEFORE Sunrise i.e.].
This topic was also discussed recently by others--Link below.
https://www.citehr.com/421015-availi...ing-hours.html
Since you say that your company is into US staffing, you would be having a 5-day week. Also, I am sure there would be off-line work involved [when they don't need to talk to anyone in the US]. Why not ask them to work for some hours on Saturdays/Sundays also in the Ramzaan month--to be utilized for all off-line work [i.e. IF they REALLY want to say their Prayers]? This would also need a greater amount of planning & co-ordination between your office & the US-end--but that would be better than loosing so many man-days.
All the Best.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
What your staff is telling is correct--Iftar food is taken only between 7.30 PM & 4.00 AM [in the nights--basically AFTER Sunset & BEFORE Sunrise i.e.].
This topic was also discussed recently by others--Link below.
https://www.citehr.com/421015-availi...ing-hours.html
Since you say that your company is into US staffing, you would be having a 5-day week. Also, I am sure there would be off-line work involved [when they don't need to talk to anyone in the US]. Why not ask them to work for some hours on Saturdays/Sundays also in the Ramzaan month--to be utilized for all off-line work [i.e. IF they REALLY want to say their Prayers]? This would also need a greater amount of planning & co-ordination between your office & the US-end--but that would be better than loosing so many man-days.
All the Best.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
I have had many muslims working in companies and we never faced any problem No one organisation can give flexible rules for on religious segment. Then every month on Amavsya, people will ask for permision to come late and go early as they would be fasting There are muslims who do not follow this fasting and they are supposed to make some payment towards this. I had ma ny muslim friends who used to stay late and have lunch and make payment. Ther are a few who still stay late and will fast.
Every eligion has its own peculiarities and organisation can not devise flexible rules for all religions.
In my early schooling days, Amavasya used to be a day where schools will start at 11 am instaed of 9.30 am This practice has disappeared now
If you want to devise flexible rule, then takeinto consideration the requests that could come from other religions as well
T Sivasankaran
From India, Chennai
Every eligion has its own peculiarities and organisation can not devise flexible rules for all religions.
In my early schooling days, Amavasya used to be a day where schools will start at 11 am instaed of 9.30 am This practice has disappeared now
If you want to devise flexible rule, then takeinto consideration the requests that could come from other religions as well
T Sivasankaran
From India, Chennai
My manager who sits in US didnt say a single world about this,he just want to cover extra working hours...
But in reality they (Muslim) they break their fast at around 7 PM..So they want to start at 8 &
In morning they should have their by 4 AM,so cant ask them to stay longer & cover their hours..
I said the same to my manager,even he dont know wat to do..He wants me to work on...
From India, Hyderabad
But in reality they (Muslim) they break their fast at around 7 PM..So they want to start at 8 &
In morning they should have their by 4 AM,so cant ask them to stay longer & cover their hours..
I said the same to my manager,even he dont know wat to do..He wants me to work on...
From India, Hyderabad
Sunrise in mumbai does not happen at 4 am
So woudnt there be enough time for them to work late and still have time for meals ?
(note : I do not know the details of the requirement) which is the reason for my question)
From India, Mumbai
So woudnt there be enough time for them to work late and still have time for meals ?
(note : I do not know the details of the requirement) which is the reason for my question)
From India, Mumbai
In my opinion you should go by your HR policy --that should be common for the people of all religion and faith.
If you want to give special consideration then discuss with your management -- as its a policy matter and I think you being at junior level may not be able to take decision.
Once the decision is taken please communicate it clearly to these employees -- they should not take the management for granted.
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Regards
Sanjeev
From India, Bangalore
If you want to give special consideration then discuss with your management -- as its a policy matter and I think you being at junior level may not be able to take decision.
Once the decision is taken please communicate it clearly to these employees -- they should not take the management for granted.
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Regards
Sanjeev
From India, Bangalore
Hello Ms. Sushma, its true that muslim can\'t eat after 03:50 or 04:15 am & before 07:00 or 07:30 Pm. I think they are right... Can you change ur working hours ????
From India, Jaipur
From India, Jaipur
Hi Sushma,
I know this problem is there. If majority staff is non muslim then you can even agree to grant some employees a leave & adjust it to their leave entitlement ,for a few hours in this month. Or agree to these short working hours which can be adjusted by them by working extra hours rest of the year, or even both as per the need.
In Mumbai , we do not allow any extra benefit for this period. However, leave can be availed or adjusted as mentioned before, in some companies.
Regards.
P.S.
From India, Mumbai
I know this problem is there. If majority staff is non muslim then you can even agree to grant some employees a leave & adjust it to their leave entitlement ,for a few hours in this month. Or agree to these short working hours which can be adjusted by them by working extra hours rest of the year, or even both as per the need.
In Mumbai , we do not allow any extra benefit for this period. However, leave can be availed or adjusted as mentioned before, in some companies.
Regards.
P.S.
From India, Mumbai
Hi Sushma,
It is month of Ramzaan & all muslims are very religious towards their religion. They are coming at 8:30pm it is ok because they have to break their fast around 7:30pm. Give them a break of 30 min. at 3:30am & tell them they can bring their food & can manage from cafeteria. You just make arrangement of their prayer like assign a room for namaz. After taking 30 min break they can cover their hours.
We do respect all the religions but management won't suffer for it.
Thanks
Nisha Sharma
From India, Delhi
It is month of Ramzaan & all muslims are very religious towards their religion. They are coming at 8:30pm it is ok because they have to break their fast around 7:30pm. Give them a break of 30 min. at 3:30am & tell them they can bring their food & can manage from cafeteria. You just make arrangement of their prayer like assign a room for namaz. After taking 30 min break they can cover their hours.
We do respect all the religions but management won't suffer for it.
Thanks
Nisha Sharma
From India, Delhi
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