Hi,
I went through your posting. My there are some interesting views.....
Let me introduce myself - I am a non-smoking friendly smoker who has worked all along in organisations with NO SMOKING POLICY, and never had any problem.
Most of the knowledge management firms have central AC system, so you can't smoke in the office (it's all common sense).
I wouldn't suggest for any "initial smoking zone" as it tends to become Permanent Smoking Zone (the Lintas thing -sunayana's posting - reminded me of Hewlett Packard HO at Gurgaon)
So, don't worry and go ahead.
ATB
bye....
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I went through your posting. My there are some interesting views.....
Let me introduce myself - I am a non-smoking friendly smoker who has worked all along in organisations with NO SMOKING POLICY, and never had any problem.
Most of the knowledge management firms have central AC system, so you can't smoke in the office (it's all common sense).
I wouldn't suggest for any "initial smoking zone" as it tends to become Permanent Smoking Zone (the Lintas thing -sunayana's posting - reminded me of Hewlett Packard HO at Gurgaon)
So, don't worry and go ahead.
ATB
bye....
Show - Week
Dear Soms,
The concept is good, While I did my internship at MICO, Nagnathpur Plant in Banglore, They adopted a policy where even smokers in their company should stop smoking in the factory premises. they started with the awarness programs which was organised by NIMHANS, you can contact them, they will give some info on that. Later the policy came into existence, and if the employees want to smoke, they have to go out of the factory premises.
But yours is a small company with 25 ppl, you can introduce the policy and also the awareness for the existing employees, But you need to think about the effect of implementation. The employees should not develop negative attitude just for implementing this policy. You should make them understand that the policy is implemented for the good of the organisation, and change in culture. Instead you as a HR head implementing, It would be better if you ask the suggestions from smokers and non smokers in your organisation.
The policy of implementing "fine" is good, also you can implement something like bad remarks will be added if found smoking inside the campus. But Make sure this will not be a reason for increase in the attrition rate in your organisation.
While recruiting, you can orally tell them the rules of the org during orientation and also ask them suggestions for the same.
All the best, :wink:
Regards,
From India, Bangalore
6The concept is good, While I did my internship at MICO, Nagnathpur Plant in Banglore, They adopted a policy where even smokers in their company should stop smoking in the factory premises. they started with the awarness programs which was organised by NIMHANS, you can contact them, they will give some info on that. Later the policy came into existence, and if the employees want to smoke, they have to go out of the factory premises.
But yours is a small company with 25 ppl, you can introduce the policy and also the awareness for the existing employees, But you need to think about the effect of implementation. The employees should not develop negative attitude just for implementing this policy. You should make them understand that the policy is implemented for the good of the organisation, and change in culture. Instead you as a HR head implementing, It would be better if you ask the suggestions from smokers and non smokers in your organisation.
The policy of implementing "fine" is good, also you can implement something like bad remarks will be added if found smoking inside the campus. But Make sure this will not be a reason for increase in the attrition rate in your organisation.
While recruiting, you can orally tell them the rules of the org during orientation and also ask them suggestions for the same.
All the best, :wink:
Regards,
From India, Bangalore
hi all....
smoking is more of an OCD(obssesive compulsive disorder) .....
speaking through a smokers point of view he/she would rather lack concentration if he/she is prohibited to do so...
yup i do agree that it hamphers non-smokers too cuz even if they come after having a smoke in a smoke room or anywhere else it smells horribly... but these issues can be taken care of...
smoking is more of an OCD(obssesive compulsive disorder) .....
speaking through a smokers point of view he/she would rather lack concentration if he/she is prohibited to do so...
yup i do agree that it hamphers non-smokers too cuz even if they come after having a smoke in a smoke room or anywhere else it smells horribly... but these issues can be taken care of...
Hi, :P
I do believe when company would like to implement no smoking policy strictly,it will be ethics of that company and hence each employee working will have to adjust themselves to companies rules and regulation and none of human beings are smokers from birth itself as it is acquired habit it can be avoided by strong will power.
coz it depends on individual desire.
soumya.mule
I do believe when company would like to implement no smoking policy strictly,it will be ethics of that company and hence each employee working will have to adjust themselves to companies rules and regulation and none of human beings are smokers from birth itself as it is acquired habit it can be avoided by strong will power.
coz it depends on individual desire.
soumya.mule
Hi,
Thanks for all your inputs. As pramod suggested, i think it would be a good idea to first spread the awareness and then implement it as a policy. we could talk to some NGO and ask them to come over and give a programme and then go about with the policy.
Actually this could also be taken to be a social responsibility, if it works right. Is there anything else that we could do in a small way and help the society?
Regards,
Soumya Shankar
From India, Bangalore
Thanks for all your inputs. As pramod suggested, i think it would be a good idea to first spread the awareness and then implement it as a policy. we could talk to some NGO and ask them to come over and give a programme and then go about with the policy.
Actually this could also be taken to be a social responsibility, if it works right. Is there anything else that we could do in a small way and help the society?
Regards,
Soumya Shankar
From India, Bangalore
This would be in violation of Equal Opportunities Act! Well in the US and UK at least. Where if a candidate is rejected on these grounds - then the candidate can sue the company.
In these countries the employment commissioner requires the employer to record the reason for non selection. The employer can be prosecuted if the reason is not good enough.
These laws are coming to India. These are being discussed in various circles.
In India - we are driven by cultural nuances - this is one of them.
No Smoking Policy - World Over - is No Smoking in the Office premises. I am surprised that this has gone to the lengths of Not recruiting Smokers.
Yes you can put in the Employee Handbook that smoking is not allowed in building premises and if you are found smoking then what action will be taken.
You cannot discriminate based on someone who smokes.
However to be fair to the employer - these are the reason why they would want something like that -
a. Social responsibility for the health of employees
b. Smokers breath during meetings annoys people
c. Smoking during office hours even outside the building leaves a bad impression.
Well, If you are interested in a Standard No Smoking Policy, let me know. I have written one.
From India, Bangalore
In these countries the employment commissioner requires the employer to record the reason for non selection. The employer can be prosecuted if the reason is not good enough.
These laws are coming to India. These are being discussed in various circles.
In India - we are driven by cultural nuances - this is one of them.
No Smoking Policy - World Over - is No Smoking in the Office premises. I am surprised that this has gone to the lengths of Not recruiting Smokers.
Yes you can put in the Employee Handbook that smoking is not allowed in building premises and if you are found smoking then what action will be taken.
You cannot discriminate based on someone who smokes.
However to be fair to the employer - these are the reason why they would want something like that -
a. Social responsibility for the health of employees
b. Smokers breath during meetings annoys people
c. Smoking during office hours even outside the building leaves a bad impression.
Well, If you are interested in a Standard No Smoking Policy, let me know. I have written one.
From India, Bangalore
I agree with the view expressed before, that a "non-smoking policy" is about the behaviour and not the person. Whether they smoke off-site or after hours is not something to be controlled by the company.
In South Australia (and probably most of Australia) it is legislated that all workplaces are "smoke-free". Some companies still maintain a smoking area seperate from the workspace, but they run the risk of being sued later - believe it or not, by smokers who get lung cancer from smoking during work time!
All government work sites are smoke - free zones. There are no areas for smoking, and if smokers want a "puff" they have to go out in their own time to a public area, usually the street. The no-smoking policy also applies to company cars, even if the smoker is the only driver.
Of course, plenty of employees bend the rules, either by going out during work time for a smoke, or by smoking in the work cars when they are alone. Not a lot happens unless a member of the public complains, or unless the worker's productivity is low because of too many smoke breaks.
The good thing is that with no-smoking work sites almost being the standard for all of Australia, our percentage of smokers in the population has dropped from over 60% several decades ago to about 25%.
From Australia, Ballarat
In South Australia (and probably most of Australia) it is legislated that all workplaces are "smoke-free". Some companies still maintain a smoking area seperate from the workspace, but they run the risk of being sued later - believe it or not, by smokers who get lung cancer from smoking during work time!
All government work sites are smoke - free zones. There are no areas for smoking, and if smokers want a "puff" they have to go out in their own time to a public area, usually the street. The no-smoking policy also applies to company cars, even if the smoker is the only driver.
Of course, plenty of employees bend the rules, either by going out during work time for a smoke, or by smoking in the work cars when they are alone. Not a lot happens unless a member of the public complains, or unless the worker's productivity is low because of too many smoke breaks.
The good thing is that with no-smoking work sites almost being the standard for all of Australia, our percentage of smokers in the population has dropped from over 60% several decades ago to about 25%.
From Australia, Ballarat
HI SOUMYA.... :lol:
I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A SMOKERZ POINT OF VIEW..... SEE AS SMOKER....ITZ VERY DIFFICULT TO QUIT FOR SOME RULE IN THE COMPANY....IF A PERSON IS SMOKIN FOR OVER A YEAR...THEN SMOKING BECOMES AN EXTENSION TO HIS PERSONALITY OR AN CHARACTERSTIC....WHICH IS DIFFICULT TO CHANGE.....SINCE U WRK FOR A SOFT.COMPANY....U CAN BRING THIS CHANGE SLOWLY....AS SUDDEN CHANGES BRING RESENTMENT WITH THEM.....AND ALWY'S REM'BR U MIGHT LOOSE OUT ON GOOD EMPLOYERS....AS THERE R ENOUGH JOBS FOR SOFTWARE PEOPLE....THERE R AROUND 200 COMPANIES IN BANGALORE ITSELF....MOST SMOKERS TREAT THAT AS AN INVASION ON PRIVACY....IN U.S THEY MIGHT SUE THE COMPANY FOR THE ISSUE....JUST KIDDIN.... SO INSTEAD OF BANNNING SMOKING ENTIRELY.... U GUYZ CAN CREATE SMOKING ZONES...AS SUGGESTED BY OTHERS, GET CARDIAC DOCTORS TO TALK ON THE ISSUE...... AS FEAR IS THE BEST MOTIVATOR OF ALL....AND NBDY QUESTIONS A DOCTORS CREDIBILITY.......DO SMOTHIN REALLY INNOVATIVE.....BUT REMEMBER DNT BRING ABT SUDDEN CHANGES IN THE SYSTEM......ALL THIS WAS JUST A SMOKERZ EXPRESSION......
REGARDS
VISHAL :lol:
From India, Mumbai
I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A SMOKERZ POINT OF VIEW..... SEE AS SMOKER....ITZ VERY DIFFICULT TO QUIT FOR SOME RULE IN THE COMPANY....IF A PERSON IS SMOKIN FOR OVER A YEAR...THEN SMOKING BECOMES AN EXTENSION TO HIS PERSONALITY OR AN CHARACTERSTIC....WHICH IS DIFFICULT TO CHANGE.....SINCE U WRK FOR A SOFT.COMPANY....U CAN BRING THIS CHANGE SLOWLY....AS SUDDEN CHANGES BRING RESENTMENT WITH THEM.....AND ALWY'S REM'BR U MIGHT LOOSE OUT ON GOOD EMPLOYERS....AS THERE R ENOUGH JOBS FOR SOFTWARE PEOPLE....THERE R AROUND 200 COMPANIES IN BANGALORE ITSELF....MOST SMOKERS TREAT THAT AS AN INVASION ON PRIVACY....IN U.S THEY MIGHT SUE THE COMPANY FOR THE ISSUE....JUST KIDDIN.... SO INSTEAD OF BANNNING SMOKING ENTIRELY.... U GUYZ CAN CREATE SMOKING ZONES...AS SUGGESTED BY OTHERS, GET CARDIAC DOCTORS TO TALK ON THE ISSUE...... AS FEAR IS THE BEST MOTIVATOR OF ALL....AND NBDY QUESTIONS A DOCTORS CREDIBILITY.......DO SMOTHIN REALLY INNOVATIVE.....BUT REMEMBER DNT BRING ABT SUDDEN CHANGES IN THE SYSTEM......ALL THIS WAS JUST A SMOKERZ EXPRESSION......
REGARDS
VISHAL :lol:
From India, Mumbai
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