Dear All,
The topic goes beyond the control. It has become discussion rather than answering a question in quiz.
Ok let me accept both the answers of Dipika and Sreeni are correct. But with examples Mr.Sreeni's answer I accept. Let me explain the terms. As mentioned by Preet Termination may not only included for trainess/probationers but also applicable to confirmed employees also.
The word termination has wide connotation and may include within its ambit the various ways in which the employer-employee relationship may come to an end. Therefore, it may include discharge, dismissal and even retrenchment. However, generally the term is used to refer to termination of the employee's services by the employer. Thus, the meaning of this word may change depending upon the context in which it is used.
Dismissal generally refers to termination of the employee's services on disciplinary grounds.
Discharge refers to termination of employment bruoght about by an act of the employer. Discharge may include dismissal and retrenchment.
Retrenchment, in common parlance, means discharge of surplus labour.
Now I request Preet to announce who is the winner. I have given my answer please.
Thanks with Regards.
Thiru
From Germany, Herzogenaurach
The topic goes beyond the control. It has become discussion rather than answering a question in quiz.
Ok let me accept both the answers of Dipika and Sreeni are correct. But with examples Mr.Sreeni's answer I accept. Let me explain the terms. As mentioned by Preet Termination may not only included for trainess/probationers but also applicable to confirmed employees also.
The word termination has wide connotation and may include within its ambit the various ways in which the employer-employee relationship may come to an end. Therefore, it may include discharge, dismissal and even retrenchment. However, generally the term is used to refer to termination of the employee's services by the employer. Thus, the meaning of this word may change depending upon the context in which it is used.
Dismissal generally refers to termination of the employee's services on disciplinary grounds.
Discharge refers to termination of employment bruoght about by an act of the employer. Discharge may include dismissal and retrenchment.
Retrenchment, in common parlance, means discharge of surplus labour.
Now I request Preet to announce who is the winner. I have given my answer please.
Thanks with Regards.
Thiru
From Germany, Herzogenaurach
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Hi All,
Sorry for posting so late....and I missed the initial discussion part....
:cry:
My view is that all the confusion and the resulting discussion and differences in views and knowledge is quite interesting. This should be a part of a healthy forum...conflict can be productive.
At the same time, decisions have to be fast. So, some senior HR expert/s can act as the neutral person here who finally gives an approval for the correctness and validity of answers.
As intelligent people we should be open to ideas - But for workability part- we cannot let the judgment of answers on only the person who is asking it. He/she can be wrong also....
Rest all is on you!!
thanks
seema
From India, Lucknow
Sorry for posting so late....and I missed the initial discussion part....
:cry:
My view is that all the confusion and the resulting discussion and differences in views and knowledge is quite interesting. This should be a part of a healthy forum...conflict can be productive.
At the same time, decisions have to be fast. So, some senior HR expert/s can act as the neutral person here who finally gives an approval for the correctness and validity of answers.
As intelligent people we should be open to ideas - But for workability part- we cannot let the judgment of answers on only the person who is asking it. He/she can be wrong also....
Rest all is on you!!
thanks
seema
From India, Lucknow
Hi All,
Sreeni is already posted his question. Any answers?
Hi Sreeni,
Try to post the question which can be answered in short form. Your question about Difference between HR & PM is too vague to answer. It is a very big topic, and deciding on the winner might be difficult. Because few people post some points and some others post some more points all may be correct, then how you can decide on the winner.
Hi Seema,
In this thread the person who is posting the question only the right person to decide the winner. He/She may be wrong, but when they post the question with some answer, they are the people to decide on the winner. However, if the answer is wrong probably we can as seniors point out the mistakes and rectify it. That is what Mr.Siva did, and I also accepted his point, but I approved Sreeni as winner as Thiru has declared Sreeni has winner. Sreeni's answer is not totally wrong, few things are wrong and in general it is ok kind of answer.
Any comments on the above
Preet
From India, Bangalore
Sreeni is already posted his question. Any answers?
Hi Sreeni,
Try to post the question which can be answered in short form. Your question about Difference between HR & PM is too vague to answer. It is a very big topic, and deciding on the winner might be difficult. Because few people post some points and some others post some more points all may be correct, then how you can decide on the winner.
Hi Seema,
In this thread the person who is posting the question only the right person to decide the winner. He/She may be wrong, but when they post the question with some answer, they are the people to decide on the winner. However, if the answer is wrong probably we can as seniors point out the mistakes and rectify it. That is what Mr.Siva did, and I also accepted his point, but I approved Sreeni as winner as Thiru has declared Sreeni has winner. Sreeni's answer is not totally wrong, few things are wrong and in general it is ok kind of answer.
Any comments on the above
Preet
From India, Bangalore
Let me try again..... :-)
The difference Between PM & HR is as follows:
PM (Personal Management) : Widely used few years back. The main task of PM was to maintain Personal records of the employees of the organization. It was just a job to maintain the records (Database), sometime PM use to take care of the recruitment & joining formalities but never extended beyond that.
HR (Human Resource) : A very broad definition. HR takes care of all the aspect, right from
strategic planning,
recruitment,
joining formalities,
induction,
training,
employee relationship
handling grievances
attrition
retention
exit formalities
--- The HR is basically concerned with the development and implementation of people strategies, which are integrated with corporate strategies, and ensures that the culture, values and structure of the organization, and the quality, motivation and commitment of its members contribute fully to the achievement of its goals.
And
--- PM is basically administrative function (operation level)
Warm Regards
Dipika
From India, Mumbai
The difference Between PM & HR is as follows:
PM (Personal Management) : Widely used few years back. The main task of PM was to maintain Personal records of the employees of the organization. It was just a job to maintain the records (Database), sometime PM use to take care of the recruitment & joining formalities but never extended beyond that.
HR (Human Resource) : A very broad definition. HR takes care of all the aspect, right from
strategic planning,
recruitment,
joining formalities,
induction,
training,
employee relationship
handling grievances
attrition
retention
exit formalities
--- The HR is basically concerned with the development and implementation of people strategies, which are integrated with corporate strategies, and ensures that the culture, values and structure of the organization, and the quality, motivation and commitment of its members contribute fully to the achievement of its goals.
And
--- PM is basically administrative function (operation level)
Warm Regards
Dipika
From India, Mumbai
Hi All,
Sorry guys. I was not available yesterday. What happened to everyone. Dipika is posted her answer but no reply from anyone. Sreeni as you have posted the question you need to tell whether the answer is correct or not. It should have not stopped like this. Come on guys let it continue. Don't stop.
Preet
From India, Bangalore
Sorry guys. I was not available yesterday. What happened to everyone. Dipika is posted her answer but no reply from anyone. Sreeni as you have posted the question you need to tell whether the answer is correct or not. It should have not stopped like this. Come on guys let it continue. Don't stop.
Preet
From India, Bangalore
Hi Pranati,
Thanks for joining this thread. However, thanks for your comment on Dipika's answer. However, the winner can be declared by the person who is posting the question. In this case now, Mr.Sreeni has to declare the winner.
Hi Sreeni,
You need to declare it latest by 2PM. If you are not doing then we will decide on the winner.
Preet
From India, Bangalore
Thanks for joining this thread. However, thanks for your comment on Dipika's answer. However, the winner can be declared by the person who is posting the question. In this case now, Mr.Sreeni has to declare the winner.
Hi Sreeni,
You need to declare it latest by 2PM. If you are not doing then we will decide on the winner.
Preet
From India, Bangalore
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