GREETINGS EVERYONE. I am working as a HR HEAD with a glass company .I have dealt in IT sector in previous. This is new for me ,so want to ask a question. Is the production manager superior to HR or not Kindly write your reviews to get me out of this situation?
Regards.
Regards.
Hi,
Being HOD's of two different departments Production Manager and HR Head are Peers actually, Both work for the growth of the Organisation. Administratively you both should be reporting to the CEO / President of the Company. But reporting system differ from Organisation to Organisation.
Your question who is Superior depends on your Management. Normally Management use to assign some Seniors as Location In-charge based on Seniority, age and experience. In general in most of the Companies Operations/Production Department Head will be given more priority as the revenue for the company depends on their work but not necessarily same in all Organisation.
From India, Madras
951Being HOD's of two different departments Production Manager and HR Head are Peers actually, Both work for the growth of the Organisation. Administratively you both should be reporting to the CEO / President of the Company. But reporting system differ from Organisation to Organisation.
Your question who is Superior depends on your Management. Normally Management use to assign some Seniors as Location In-charge based on Seniority, age and experience. In general in most of the Companies Operations/Production Department Head will be given more priority as the revenue for the company depends on their work but not necessarily same in all Organisation.
From India, Madras
Hi, in some companies, the Head of HR will report to the Operations Head or Production Manager. Surely management will have more Favours with Production Heads. It is suggested to go through his file and understand his role and responsibilities. Better if you start developing a good cordial relationship with him, thereby your ego barriers will wash out. You will work together as a team for the company's work.
From India, Bengaluru
From India, Bengaluru
This type of questions keep arising almost all establishments no matter how big or small it may be. As a HR Head you understand the hierarchy of your Co. who reports to whom. Much would depend on your cadres, salary, levels/grades etc. You are in two different cadres. One should not develop a mind set who is superior or inferior. It's important that HR maintains good working relationship on day-to-day basis. There may be occasions there arose tiff between colleagues working in different streams, mainly egoistic like " I'm superior, senior " etc. Especially HR sometimes carry grudge against others and try to do whatever possible to bring disrepute to the other, putting spokes in their career path, spoil their chances etc misusing free approach with CEO, COO etc. HR should keep in mind a basic thing that is they are in support services to production team and do everything possible to maintain cool, cordial relationship with others. No production, no revenue, no pay, no Co can exist. Some may even threaten with dire consequences. That approach is not good for the organisation. An affront HR team never desired.
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
Hey,
I understood your question and also saw the replies of other members of the group.
I also want to say something of my own. This is not meant to taunt anyone.
The question was only that who is senior and not that the HR head is ending someone's career or creating hurdles in someone's path.
If the manager or head level of both (for Production & HR Department) is same then in that condition HR head will always be senior.
To understand this, some facts should be considered. ..
If a factory is set up somewhere then the HR head plays an important role in its journey from ground foundation to its production process and from production running to its lay off.
The production manager is also senior but his work is limited only to increasing and managing the production. He is not effectively responsible for influencing or changing the working system of other related departments of a factory and for that.
A HR head can appoint a production manager while a production manager cannot even appoint or interview HR head.
The HR head has the power to make policies for the production department as well as other departments of the factory while the production manager can only give suggestions for his department or can only demand better policies for his department.
The HR head treats the production manager as like any other employee and provides him with all his important documents as per his requirement such as increment/appointment/experience letter/leave benefits and other compensation. While a production manager cannot do this.
HR head can issue show cause notice to the production manager for his mistake but only his senior like CEO/Director/MD can write letter to HR head.
A lot of work/ task /examples are exits and to do proof that the HR Head is senior. But remember all seniors have a right to getting respect.
(Note: - If it happens in any company that production manager taking interview of HR head & treat HR head is nothing then understand that the company has strayed from its basic principles and is running just like a shop by ignoring the norms. In such a place rules and regulations are not practical, they are only on the books.)
BR
Naval
From India, Bangalore
I understood your question and also saw the replies of other members of the group.
I also want to say something of my own. This is not meant to taunt anyone.
The question was only that who is senior and not that the HR head is ending someone's career or creating hurdles in someone's path.
If the manager or head level of both (for Production & HR Department) is same then in that condition HR head will always be senior.
To understand this, some facts should be considered. ..
If a factory is set up somewhere then the HR head plays an important role in its journey from ground foundation to its production process and from production running to its lay off.
The production manager is also senior but his work is limited only to increasing and managing the production. He is not effectively responsible for influencing or changing the working system of other related departments of a factory and for that.
A HR head can appoint a production manager while a production manager cannot even appoint or interview HR head.
The HR head has the power to make policies for the production department as well as other departments of the factory while the production manager can only give suggestions for his department or can only demand better policies for his department.
The HR head treats the production manager as like any other employee and provides him with all his important documents as per his requirement such as increment/appointment/experience letter/leave benefits and other compensation. While a production manager cannot do this.
HR head can issue show cause notice to the production manager for his mistake but only his senior like CEO/Director/MD can write letter to HR head.
A lot of work/ task /examples are exits and to do proof that the HR Head is senior. But remember all seniors have a right to getting respect.
(Note: - If it happens in any company that production manager taking interview of HR head & treat HR head is nothing then understand that the company has strayed from its basic principles and is running just like a shop by ignoring the norms. In such a place rules and regulations are not practical, they are only on the books.)
BR
Naval
From India, Bangalore
The HR Head is administratively for the entire establishment. Where as Production Manager only limit to production department. The cadre decides the seniority. The scenario changes, if the PM is acting as Factory Manager then the HOD of HR obviously a subordinate. In an organization ego clash of superiority is the symptom of sick mindset.
It is difficult to tell without knowing your
company set up and organisation chart.
From India, Mumbai
It is difficult to tell without knowing your
company set up and organisation chart.
From India, Mumbai
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